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AllenRPS13 · 03-30-2005, 12:48 AM

i like both as it is 240

driftyour40 · 03-30-2005, 12:54 AM

My vote is for Zenki. This is my opinion on it; almost every kouki I have seen is beautiful, and washed often, with pretty paint, or a drift car. Zenkis for the most part are well-driven cars, some with battle damage and some w/out.

This is I guess the point.
Zenkis = driven hard
Koukis = Clean, kind of a show car.

This is of course a generalization of what I have seen, and I'm by no means implying that people that own Koukis drive like little girls, and zenki owners drive their cars like sports cars should be driven.

dct223 · 03-30-2005, 01:01 AM

i rock the zenki!

at first i wanted a kouki... but then the more i looked at zenkis the more i loved it... Koukis are over raited IMO... everybody wants the kouki...

from this pic... i dont see why people like the kouki more... the zenki front end fits the body lines of a s14 a lil better i think.

(i did not take this pic... but ty for the person who did and the owners of these cars)

sw20>>s14 · 03-30-2005, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by driftyour40

My vote is for Zenki. This is my opinion on it; almost every kouki I have seen is beautiful, and washed often, with pretty paint, or a drift car. Zenkis for the most part are well-driven cars, some with battle damage and some w/out.

This is I guess the point.
Zenkis = driven hard
Koukis = Clean, kind of a show car.

This is of course a generalization of what I have seen, and I'm by no means implying that people that own Koukis drive like little girls, and zenki owners drive their cars like sports cars should be driven.

so far, i have seen the same. this applies to the majority but not all that i have seen...

IGSDann · 03-30-2005, 01:34 AM

I like both.... But I drive Kouki, and if I had to buy another S14 I'd try to get a kouki, but Zenki's can be hot too... Turbo or no turbo matters more to me.

SilviaSR20DET · 03-30-2005, 04:06 AM

I own a zenki and a kouki.... at first i thought kouki was the ish but now my zenki with a lip changed my whole perception of the car. There both nice cars, kouki does in fact get more looks because of it being rare but as most ppl say the front of kouki dont really fit with the rest of the car. Zenki with rims and body kit compared to a kouki with similar exterior mods, the zenki would look nicer IMO Its really hard to choose between the two cause both possess different styles.

WanganRunner · 03-30-2005, 06:24 AM

I honestly have no preference.

I have a '98 Silver Moss 5spd LE (so Kouki), which is a fairly rare car, but I didn't really seek it out. I just bought the first S14 that I could find that was in truly incredible condition (which was the most important thing).

Had I found a Zenki in a more common color in such condition, I'd have bought that, which I probably wouldn't have paid through the nose for quite so much.

I really like Zenki's with Eyelids though. They retain the square nose look without the headlights looking bulbous.

BSeay · 03-30-2005, 07:07 AM

i used to be all about the kouki, but then i seen the zenki with the glass headlights or clear headlights for that matter...i was sold after that...

Zenki > Kouki

mr_240sx · 03-30-2005, 08:00 AM

my opinion on all this is that a zenki doesnt look good stock while a kouki looks hot stock. the other thing though, is if a zenki had hot aero then i think it looks much hotter then a kouki! with the right aero, the zenki follows the body lines reall good!

420sx · 03-30-2005, 08:03 AM

kouki looks slick with stock jdm aero.

and zenki looks right. hell u can rag on a zenki, if u wreck it u can go another front end, its all plug and play biach!

xVaporx · 03-30-2005, 08:50 AM

either is fine, but i have always wanted a kouki so I converted mine

Ian · 03-30-2005, 08:53 AM

i'm on my 2nd zenki front end...guess which one i like more? lol

seksi240 · 03-30-2005, 09:08 AM

Zenki's for 100% sure, just matches up better with the rest of the car. I hate Kouki! But I don't really care either way, I have an S13, haha.

linkwpc · 03-30-2005, 09:33 AM

I think stock Zenki need something to look just as good or better then a stock Kouki. With out that something, stock Kouki looks better. I got a zenki because it was cheap then a kouki

But I think Zenki has a nice charm to it.

KOUKI KA-T · 03-30-2005, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smog Tech

Well, they're not called "kouki" aero are they?

Nope, they're called optional aero as they were an option on both. They aren't "zenki" sides...

I like both, but US kouki bumpers are ugly as hell.

OptionZero · 03-30-2005, 11:19 AM

yeah, the guy at nissan that dropped the jdm bumper for the usdm bumper should be shot. Twice.

dct223 · 03-30-2005, 11:24 AM

since this is the zenki vs kouki topic....

there was a fellow zilvian, that told me the kouki chassis was a little stiffer than the zenki.. and if you looked at the differences in the frame you could see..... i responded "WTF" when he told me that... arent they the same damn chassis???

ALTRNTV · 03-30-2005, 11:48 AM

They are the same chassis.

samms95s14se · 03-30-2005, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AenjukuCar

I definitely Rock the Zenki look through and through. Never Would change. The only thing I plan on adding body wise to mine is the greddy front lip, Zenki Aero sides or Nismo 270R sides, and Zenki rear add-ons or Nismo 270R rear.

Mike13:
What wheels are those? Love that sunken spoke look in the rear.

Samms95s14se:
What did you do to your headlights??

They are just the JDM ones almost brand new!!

And the guy who said it's a girl car can go tell that to the Drift King who used the Zenki in the Drift Bible!!!!!

RedlineRacer · 03-30-2005, 12:45 PM

i love kouki. Its looks best with JDM aero.

SimpleS14 · 03-30-2005, 01:11 PM

I agree that the USDM Kouki bumper is ugly as hell. I like Zenki because it flows with the rest of the car, but right now I have a Kouki front end because I love the JDM stock body and I wanted projector headlights.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dct223

since this is the zenki vs kouki topic....

there was a fellow zilvian, that told me the kouki chassis was a little stiffer than the zenki.. and if you looked at the differences in the frame you could see..... i responded "WTF" when he told me that... arent they the same damn chassis???

The chassis is alittle stiffer around the T/C brackets and I believe the front brake calipers are a tad better.

fdaze · 03-30-2005, 01:26 PM

i gotta say ZENKI not just cause i have one but i think it flows more with the way the body is i mean the kouki looks great i gotta say but from my opinion everyone wants to go kouki i dont wanna spend some cash and switch over to kouki when i can spend that cash on something more worth my penny like on performance or handling other then just that look of the kouki's headlights ...

ive seen people with zenki's just spray part of the headlights to make it look like the shape of the kouki style and some just use electric tape to cover parts off too

Ghst 01 · 03-30-2005, 01:53 PM

Zenki for me too.

love the front

driftyour40 · 03-30-2005, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mainevent212

i'm on my 2nd zenki front end...guess which one i like more? lol

I'm on my third,

*driftracer* · 03-30-2005, 04:45 PM

I think it's so easy to get on the bandwagon and do the kouki conversion, that you just forget to look a little harder at the zenki and see what it has the potential to be. I've changed my mind about kouki now, and I intend on making my zenki look better with nice aero

TachyonS14 · 03-30-2005, 06:23 PM

Kouki owns all period. I mean why are there so many Zenki owners who do Kouki front end swaps? I rest my case. And plus, everywhere I go people look at my car. Zenki is too bland for my taste.

Prok0 · 03-30-2005, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dct223

(i did not take this pic... but ty for the person who did and the owners of these cars)

I've seen both of those cars in real life.. Very nice cars..
IMO the more I look at my Zenki front end the more I love it.
Flows better I think... Just looks right..
Zenki <3

KOUKI KA-T · 03-30-2005, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TachyonS14

I mean why are there so many Zenki owners who do Kouki front end swaps? I rest my case.

See, I told you all altezza lights were hott. Why else would everyone be doing it?

KyoLo · 03-30-2005, 06:38 PM

i'd go with majority of taste from people, KOUKI
simply becoz i loved kouki so i bought my car back then 2001. Still like it a lot.

But zenki has its own clean taste when well modified moderately.

KOUKI KA-T · 03-30-2005, 06:47 PM

In US trim the zenki looks better IMO.
But with the JDM bumper I think the Kouki looks better, and flows just as well.
Comparison of all 3...... (someone should photoshop mine black)

But damn everytime I look at that pic I like that black zenki more and more....
Zenki conversion time?

03-30-2005, 12:48 AM	#31
AllenRPS13 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bay Area (East Bay) Age: 37 Posts: 1,294 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i like both as it is 240 __________________ ~小アレンのリベリオン~ いくせ, 勝負た! 轟こう, オレのKRMS13!!! オレの得意技！蹴り進入！角度の少ないドリフト！

03-30-2005, 01:01 AM	#33
dct223 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: hella NORCAL! Age: 36 Posts: 1,662 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	i rock the zenki! at first i wanted a kouki... but then the more i looked at zenkis the more i loved it... Koukis are over raited IMO... everybody wants the kouki... from this pic... i dont see why people like the kouki more... the zenki front end fits the body lines of a s14 a lil better i think. (i did not take this pic... but ty for the person who did and the owners of these cars) __________________ Sfourteen

03-30-2005, 01:34 AM	#35
IGSDann Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Fitchburg, MA Age: 34 Posts: 427 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I like both.... But I drive Kouki, and if I had to buy another S14 I'd try to get a kouki, but Zenki's can be hot too... Turbo or no turbo matters more to me. __________________ Pushing 14.7 PSI of all natural boost!!!

03-30-2005, 07:07 AM	#38
BSeay Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 38 Posts: 634 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i used to be all about the kouki, but then i seen the zenki with the glass headlights or clear headlights for that matter...i was sold after that... Zenki > Kouki __________________ 1995 240SX SE - Sold

03-30-2005, 08:03 AM	#40
420sx Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Age: 38 Posts: 3,960 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: 420sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	kouki looks slick with stock jdm aero. and zenki looks right. hell u can rag on a zenki, if u wreck it u can go another front end, its all plug and play biach! __________________ hydropgrahics! ls1......

03-30-2005, 12:54 AM	#32
driftyour40 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: SoCal Age: 39 Posts: 644 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	My vote is for Zenki. This is my opinion on it; almost every kouki I have seen is beautiful, and washed often, with pretty paint, or a drift car. Zenkis for the most part are well-driven cars, some with battle damage and some w/out. This is I guess the point. Zenkis = driven hard Koukis = Clean, kind of a show car. This is of course a generalization of what I have seen, and I'm by no means implying that people that own Koukis drive like little girls, and zenki owners drive their cars like sports cars should be driven.

03-30-2005, 04:06 AM	#36
SilviaSR20DET Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,221 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	I own a zenki and a kouki.... at first i thought kouki was the ish but now my zenki with a lip changed my whole perception of the car. There both nice cars, kouki does in fact get more looks because of it being rare but as most ppl say the front of kouki dont really fit with the rest of the car. Zenki with rims and body kit compared to a kouki with similar exterior mods, the zenki would look nicer IMO Its really hard to choose between the two cause both possess different styles.

03-30-2005, 06:24 AM	#37
WanganRunner Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: DC Metro Area Posts: 1,655 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I honestly have no preference. I have a '98 Silver Moss 5spd LE (so Kouki), which is a fairly rare car, but I didn't really seek it out. I just bought the first S14 that I could find that was in truly incredible condition (which was the most important thing). Had I found a Zenki in a more common color in such condition, I'd have bought that, which I probably wouldn't have paid through the nose for quite so much. I really like Zenki's with Eyelids though. They retain the square nose look without the headlights looking bulbous.

03-30-2005, 08:00 AM	#39
mr_240sx Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ottawa Age: 35 Posts: 6,320 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: mr_240sx Feedback Score: 4 reviews	my opinion on all this is that a zenki doesnt look good stock while a kouki looks hot stock. the other thing though, is if a zenki had hot aero then i think it looks much hotter then a kouki! with the right aero, the zenki follows the body lines reall good!

03-30-2005, 08:50 AM	#41
xVaporx Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hurricane Target, FL Posts: 143 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	either is fine, but i have always wanted a kouki so I converted mine __________________

03-30-2005, 09:08 AM	#43
seksi240 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 69 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Zenki's for 100% sure, just matches up better with the rest of the car. I hate Kouki! But I don't really care either way, I have an S13, haha.

03-30-2005, 09:33 AM	#44
linkwpc Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Torrance, CA Age: 40 Posts: 228 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I think stock Zenki need something to look just as good or better then a stock Kouki. With out that something, stock Kouki looks better. I got a zenki because it was cheap then a kouki But I think Zenki has a nice charm to it. __________________ 97 240SX! 10 Camaro SS (SOLD - 95 W/S15 SR20 6M tran)

03-30-2005, 11:19 AM	#46
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 37 Posts: 6,262 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	yeah, the guy at nissan that dropped the jdm bumper for the usdm bumper should be shot. Twice.

03-30-2005, 11:24 AM	#47
dct223 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: hella NORCAL! Age: 36 Posts: 1,662 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	since this is the zenki vs kouki topic.... there was a fellow zilvian, that told me the kouki chassis was a little stiffer than the zenki.. and if you looked at the differences in the frame you could see..... i responded "WTF" when he told me that... arent they the same damn chassis??? __________________ Sfourteen

03-30-2005, 11:48 AM	#48
ALTRNTV Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Conference Posts: 9,429 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	They are the same chassis.

03-30-2005, 12:45 PM	#50
RedlineRacer Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Clemson, South Carolina Age: 37 Posts: 1,054 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i love kouki. Its looks best with JDM aero.

03-30-2005, 01:26 PM	#52
fdaze Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: moreno valley Posts: 124 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i gotta say ZENKI not just cause i have one but i think it flows more with the way the body is i mean the kouki looks great i gotta say but from my opinion everyone wants to go kouki i dont wanna spend some cash and switch over to kouki when i can spend that cash on something more worth my penny like on performance or handling other then just that look of the kouki's headlights ... ive seen people with zenki's just spray part of the headlights to make it look like the shape of the kouki style and some just use electric tape to cover parts off too __________________ GAZE!!!!!!!!!! fix ur eyez on

03-30-2005, 01:53 PM	#53
Ghst 01 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: San Francisco, CA Age: 42 Posts: 479 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Zenki for me too. love the front __________________ AIM: ghst01 http://www.cardomain.com/ride/585615 http://www.myspace.com/8407376 96 red zenki: Greddy KA Turbo kit (TD06-20g, 370cc, Emanage, Vspell FMIC), TEIN HE's, VIS Vader CF hood, Falken Azenis ST-115's, Sony Xplod head unit.

03-30-2005, 04:45 PM	#55
driftracer Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Raleigh, NC USA Age: 37 Posts: 216 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think it's so easy to get on the bandwagon and do the kouki conversion, that you just forget to look a little harder at the zenki and see what it has the potential to be. I've changed my mind about kouki now, and I intend on making my zenki look better with nice aero

03-30-2005, 06:23 PM	#56
TachyonS14 Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: SoCal Posts: 191 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Kouki owns all period. I mean why are there so many Zenki owners who do Kouki front end swaps? I rest my case. And plus, everywhere I go people look at my car. Zenki is too bland for my taste. __________________ 1997 240sx 5spd

03-30-2005, 06:38 PM	#59
KyoLo Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: UCSD Posts: 249 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i'd go with majority of taste from people, KOUKI simply becoz i loved kouki so i bought my car back then 2001. Still like it a lot. But zenki has its own clean taste when well modified moderately. __________________ Signature Exceeds Forum Limits

03-30-2005, 06:47 PM	#60
KOUKI KA-T Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Portland, Maine Posts: 1,085 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	In US trim the zenki looks better IMO. But with the JDM bumper I think the Kouki looks better, and flows just as well. Comparison of all 3...... (someone should photoshop mine black) But damn everytime I look at that pic I like that black zenki more and more.... Zenki conversion time? __________________ My car has been sold Last edited by KOUKI KA-T; 03-30-2005 at 07:56 PM..

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