Sway bars for Drifting? - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

JohnnyDrfiter22 · 10-26-2008, 10:00 PM

Are stock swaybars good enough. If i do upgrade can i do just the rear and keep the front or will the create or more nuetral feeling. What are you guys running on your drift set ups?

singlecamslam · 10-26-2008, 10:06 PM

this has been covered many times. If you just get the rear sway bar that will cause the car to oversteer. After market sway bars are not really necessary.

DeeJay1337 · 10-26-2008, 10:10 PM

Singlecamslam... if you spent that time just answering the question he'd be happy... now someone else has to answer it. Stop telling people to search and just simple answer that simple question.

Johnny... Stocks are good. but dont' go just rear, if you uprage go fronts and rears as it will stifffen up your boddy.

Dousan_PG · 10-26-2008, 10:13 PM

keep stock
dont waste yoru money
its not necessary

626 FC3S · 10-26-2008, 10:16 PM

I dont run bars on my fc at all

*s13 @ fullboost* · 10-26-2008, 10:17 PM

not necessary My friend Jason drifts for RMJ and he has a fully built race car he runs stock sways tho you really do not need bigger ones.

davirene · 10-26-2008, 10:17 PM

A hi-performance anti-sway bar kit is one of the most important suspension upgrade buying decisions you can make. Once installed, you immediately reduce body lean and roll during normal and agressive driving. Lane changes at highway speeds becomes safer, quicker and with less risk of sloppy performance. Tire performance is greatly improved, particularly if you have upgraded wheels and tires. You will notice that handling becomes crisper and sharper. If you drive aggressively in high performance situations like drifting events, track events or weekend club events.

Dousan_PG · 10-26-2008, 10:18 PM

where u cut and paste that one?

*s13 @ fullboost* · 10-26-2008, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dousan_PG

where u cut and paste that one?

lol at that. thats what came up in my mind when i read that haha

lflkajfj12123 · 10-26-2008, 10:27 PM

sway bars should be upgraded when you have nothing else to buy

like in aarons case haha

Dousan_PG · 10-26-2008, 10:28 PM

waste

of

money

i sold my sway bars back in the day
uselesss for my setup

LongGrain · 10-26-2008, 10:28 PM

its even in a different font lol.

YoungGun · 10-26-2008, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davirene

A hi-performance anti-sway bar kit is one of the most important suspension upgrade buying decisions you can make. Once installed, you immediately reduce body lean and roll during normal and agressive driving. Lane changes at highway speeds becomes safer, quicker and with less risk of sloppy performance. Tire performance is greatly improved, particularly if you have upgraded wheels and tires. You will notice that handling becomes crisper and sharper. If you drive aggressively in high performance situations like drifting events, track events or weekend club events.

High -PERFORMANCE Anti-Sway Bars for the Audi A4 S4 and Audi S4 B5 - Sport Suspension for the Audi A4 B6 and Audi S4 B6

*brndck* · 10-26-2008, 10:32 PM

i have largus front and rear and i love them. i feel like the car is more predictable with them, but thats just my .02

racepar1 · 10-26-2008, 11:27 PM

The only upgrade that makes sense is the 21mm hicas rear sway bar. Anything more than that is overkill. Hell grip guys are running without any rear swaybar sometimes and with stock front bars.

Dousan_PG · 10-26-2008, 11:28 PM

^^^^^
exactly

racepar1 · 10-26-2008, 11:31 PM

I've got a hicas rear bar F/S too!

*please excuse tasteless advertising*

LOL!!!

Shaminii · 10-26-2008, 11:42 PM

The only sway bar I've experienced that made a difference were Whiteline sway bars that came with adjustable endlinks. I immediately noticed that changing lanes felt a lot smoother. I also accidentally spun out in my friends neighborhood while I was still getting used to them. This was when I was running AGX's with Tein S-tech springs so I'm not sure how much of a difference the Whitelines would make on coilover set ups.

Right now with my current S14, I'm running Stance coilovers with Godspeed swaybars and I hardly felt a difference when I first installed the sway bars. Then again, the Godspeeds didn't come with any endlinks and had shitty bushings to come with it.

*!Zar!* · 10-27-2008, 12:10 AM

I ran stock front and whiteline rear.

Cheap setup that I use to do back in the day was remove the front and run stock rear.

Shit, base models didn't even come with a rear sway.

haha.

imnotmatt1189 · 10-27-2008, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racepar1

I've got a hicas rear bar F/S too!

*please excuse tasteless advertising*

LOL!!!

how much bigger is the hicas rear bar from the stock one?

SlideWell · 10-27-2008, 12:35 AM

anyone i know with aftermarkets that has a properly set up car runs fully adjustable sway bars for optimal suspension tuning. er some shit. i think stocks are good enough tho unless youre building a D1 car, haha. wait, arent we all? bahah

Blackparade · 10-27-2008, 12:35 AM

stock is fine. anything more is a waste like dousan was saying. Im running a jdm 180sx bar in the rear. i didnt notice a difference when i changed to it.

*!Zar!* · 10-27-2008, 01:33 AM

It depends how you set your car up.

I liked the way the car felt with a soft damper setting while running a whiteline rear sway.

Some people have their coils so stiff they don't notice/need one because the car has no roll as it. That's just a setup issue.

So I call bs on saying it's a waste.

GSXRJJordan · 10-27-2008, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racepar1

Hell grip guys are running without any rear swaybar sometimes and with stock front bars.

That's right! Take my car for instance. Totally stripped S14, SR, carbon bits, etc. Should be right around 2500lbs. Running 8k/6k springs, I have absolutely no need for a sway bar - the coils are stiff enough that there is zero body roll. I use a stock front with no rear, and the car is extremely predictable coming into and out of a slide, as well as sliding over bumps/etc.

Anti-sway bars are much more important on cars that are undersprung, like Zar was saying - it's not a waste for everyone, just everyone who's into drifting (because drifters are always overly stiff with their suspension).

*revat619* · 10-27-2008, 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dousan_PG

waste

of

money

i sold my sway bars back in the day
uselesss for my setup

didn't i buy the rear one off you? hahahaha

anyway, i didnt have a rear sway bar so yeah, it helped, but with any kinda power/decent suspension set up, depending on what you're doing, yeah...its totally pointless. Stock is fine.

rb25_s13*CHUKI · 10-27-2008, 02:26 AM

So wait. I can count my sway bars as part of my massive weight reduction?

cfrost · 10-27-2008, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dousan_PG

keep stock
dont waste yoru money
its not necessary

that's the most simple way to put it, it's not necessary

some people might like them, some don't, but you don't NEED them

I've run my car on stock sway bars for years, no issues ever

JohnnyDrfiter22 · 10-27-2008, 08:53 AM

Wow thanks for all the responses guys, and see everyone has different opionions on them. I think im going to keep stock as i am stitch welding the chassis and adding a 6 point.

justaKAiswear · 10-27-2008, 09:07 AM

A lot of good info in there! I thought it was going to be a flame thread there for a sec. but a lot of good answers!

racepar1 · 10-27-2008, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imnotmatt1189

how much bigger is the hicas rear bar from the stock one?

Hicas is 21mm stock is 15mm and I ha ve seen 17mm stock rear sways. You can easily feel the difference with the hicas rear sway.

10-26-2008, 10:00 PM	#1
JohnnyDrfiter22 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New Jersey Age: 38 Posts: 670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sway bars for Drifting? Are stock swaybars good enough. If i do upgrade can i do just the rear and keep the front or will the create or more nuetral feeling. What are you guys running on your drift set ups?

10-26-2008, 10:06 PM	#2
singlecamslam Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norcal Posts: 2,531 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	this has been covered many times. If you just get the rear sway bar that will cause the car to oversteer. After market sway bars are not really necessary. __________________ Nothing says racecar like a stock car with no interior.

10-26-2008, 10:10 PM	#3
DeeJay1337 Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 221 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Singlecamslam... if you spent that time just answering the question he'd be happy... now someone else has to answer it. Stop telling people to search and just simple answer that simple question. Johnny... Stocks are good. but dont' go just rear, if you uprage go fronts and rears as it will stifffen up your boddy. __________________ A TINT AND DEBADGE IS NOT A FUCKING MOD!

10-26-2008, 10:13 PM	#4
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 42 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	keep stock dont waste yoru money its not necessary __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

10-26-2008, 10:16 PM	#5
626 FC3S Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pasadena Age: 36 Posts: 405 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I dont run bars on my fc at all __________________

10-26-2008, 10:17 PM	#6
s13 @ fullboost Spirit Of Ecstasy Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Posts: 2,531 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	not necessary My friend Jason drifts for RMJ and he has a fully built race car he runs stock sways tho you really do not need bigger ones. __________________

10-26-2008, 10:17 PM	#7
davirene Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Yucaipa, ca Posts: 600 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	A hi-performance anti-sway bar kit is one of the most important suspension upgrade buying decisions you can make. Once installed, you immediately reduce body lean and roll during normal and agressive driving. Lane changes at highway speeds becomes safer, quicker and with less risk of sloppy performance. Tire performance is greatly improved, particularly if you have upgraded wheels and tires. You will notice that handling becomes crisper and sharper. If you drive aggressively in high performance situations like drifting events, track events or weekend club events.

10-26-2008, 10:18 PM	#8
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 42 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	where u cut and paste that one? __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

10-26-2008, 10:27 PM	#10
lflkajfj12123 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 　　　　　　　　 Posts: 8,480 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	sway bars should be upgraded when you have nothing else to buy like in aarons case haha

10-26-2008, 10:28 PM	#11
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 42 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	waste of money i sold my sway bars back in the day uselesss for my setup __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

10-26-2008, 10:28 PM	#12
LongGrain Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Midwest Posts: 2,741 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	its even in a different font lol.

10-26-2008, 11:27 PM	#15
racepar1 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 38 Posts: 9,006 Trader Rating: (106) Rides Gallery: racepar1 Feedback Score: 106 reviews	The only upgrade that makes sense is the 21mm hicas rear sway bar. Anything more than that is overkill. Hell grip guys are running without any rear swaybar sometimes and with stock front bars.

10-26-2008, 11:28 PM	#16
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 42 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	^^^^^ exactly __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

10-26-2008, 11:31 PM	#17
racepar1 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 38 Posts: 9,006 Trader Rating: (106) Rides Gallery: racepar1 Feedback Score: 106 reviews	I've got a hicas rear bar F/S too! please excuse tasteless advertising LOL!!!

10-26-2008, 11:42 PM	#18
Shaminii Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: VA Posts: 406 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	The only sway bar I've experienced that made a difference were Whiteline sway bars that came with adjustable endlinks. I immediately noticed that changing lanes felt a lot smoother. I also accidentally spun out in my friends neighborhood while I was still getting used to them. This was when I was running AGX's with Tein S-tech springs so I'm not sure how much of a difference the Whitelines would make on coilover set ups. Right now with my current S14, I'm running Stance coilovers with Godspeed swaybars and I hardly felt a difference when I first installed the sway bars. Then again, the Godspeeds didn't come with any endlinks and had shitty bushings to come with it. __________________

10-27-2008, 12:10 AM	#19
!Zar! Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,576 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	I ran stock front and whiteline rear. Cheap setup that I use to do back in the day was remove the front and run stock rear. Shit, base models didn't even come with a rear sway. haha. __________________

10-27-2008, 12:35 AM	#21
SlideWell Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Age: 38 Posts: 1,591 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	anyone i know with aftermarkets that has a properly set up car runs fully adjustable sway bars for optimal suspension tuning. er some shit. i think stocks are good enough tho unless youre building a D1 car, haha. wait, arent we all? bahah

10-27-2008, 12:35 AM	#22
Blackparade Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: LA Age: 35 Posts: 1,022 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	stock is fine. anything more is a waste like dousan was saying. Im running a jdm 180sx bar in the rear. i didnt notice a difference when i changed to it.

10-27-2008, 01:33 AM	#23
!Zar! Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,576 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	It depends how you set your car up. I liked the way the car felt with a soft damper setting while running a whiteline rear sway. Some people have their coils so stiff they don't notice/need one because the car has no roll as it. That's just a setup issue. So I call bs on saying it's a waste. __________________

10-27-2008, 02:26 AM	#26
rb25_s13*CHUKI Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cali Age: 32 Posts: 2,759 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	So wait. I can count my sway bars as part of my massive weight reduction? __________________ Obliterate

10-27-2008, 08:53 AM	#28
JohnnyDrfiter22 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New Jersey Age: 38 Posts: 670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Wow thanks for all the responses guys, and see everyone has different opionions on them. I think im going to keep stock as i am stitch welding the chassis and adding a 6 point.

10-27-2008, 09:07 AM	#29
justaKAiswear Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: FLA Age: 36 Posts: 194 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	A lot of good info in there! I thought it was going to be a flame thread there for a sec. but a lot of good answers!

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