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syline13 · 10-13-2009, 10:47 PM

What do you guys think for Multilink Suspension? Which one will be great for s13 ......Powered By MAX or SPL................. please suggest me............its mostly daily drive n sometimes for drift fun......any other reasonable brand?

*ManoNegra* · 10-13-2009, 10:56 PM

SPL, been around for quite a while and hands down
some of the best customer service in the industry
plus, they're in Texas aswell

^fraktal^ · 10-13-2009, 11:12 PM

i have every pbm arm on my car right now. i got a good deal on them all and they work.

if i had that money back today i would have went out and spent the extra on spl.

***FaLKoN240*** · 10-13-2009, 11:15 PM

If you have the little bit extra, go all the way and get SPL, PBM I'd say is next up the list.

Only reason I say SPL is better is because Kuah when he develops new upgraded parts and starts selling them he let's you pay a small amount to get the upgraded part.

PBM doesn't do that.

om3ga · 10-13-2009, 11:18 PM

I use a mixture of arms, Megan rucas, pbm toe and traction links. Tein tension rods. My cars just a Mutt of brands.

Flipzide · 10-13-2009, 11:37 PM

im down with Parts Shop MAX 100%.

their parts are beefy, welds are excellent, and a lot of their stuff is made in house.
also, the parts are developed mainly for low cars and drifting and the parts reflect towards the needs of most drifters...

customer service is excellent as well. i've never had problems with dan, dave, or martin when i visit their shop.

nothing bad against SPL either though; i use their brake lines. both are very good brands. go with whatever is in your budget...

C-unit · 10-13-2009, 11:52 PM

Just spend the extra money with SPL arms.

jr_ss · 10-14-2009, 05:54 AM

There is a review on the SPL arms on www.motoiq.com, check it out.

ob1silvia · 10-15-2009, 01:31 PM

power by max sucks balls. I had bad experience with this company. took them forever to ship some lugnuts that were missing from my order called them left messages finnally after 2 weeks dan sent them. I would never order from them again then he got an attitude when I said I would tell everyone what poor service I recieved.

nathanong87 · 10-15-2009, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syline13

What do you guys think for Multilink Suspension? Which one will be great for s13 ......Powered By MAX or SPL................. please suggest me............its mostly daily drive n sometimes for drift fun......any other reasonable brand?

SPL are the best quality imho. but that hasn't stopped me from buying PBM RUCAS. neither has let me down yet.

JayDee M Rolly · 10-15-2009, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ob1silvia

power by max sucks balls. I had bad experience with this company. took them forever to ship some lugnuts that were missing from my order called them left messages finnally after 2 weeks dan sent them. I would never order from them again then he got an attitude when I said I would tell everyone what poor service I recieved.

are you the same dumbass that made a thread about this because they where closed?

ob1silvia · 10-16-2009, 09:24 PM

Yes that was me j dick just givin my thoughts about pbm you actin like you suckin there's wow it's cool .

Touge Noob S13 · 10-16-2009, 09:34 PM

I have SPL tie rod ends on my car and I am very satisfied with them. Dont have any PBM arms but I did visit the shop, Dan and Martin are very chill dudes. IMO you should get SPL's because they are in the same state as you (support your states economy lol) Although for my next purchase of suspension arms I am going to go for PBM.

xpertsnowcarver · 10-16-2009, 09:46 PM

I've used both. Both are great quality parts.

LayNLow · 10-16-2009, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ob1silvia

Yes that was me j dick just givin my thoughts about pbm you actin like you suckin there's wow it's cool .

Wow dude, they closed shop for a few days to attend/drive in a drift event and you got all pissy for nothing. LOL. Just fucking get over it. The made a mistake and admitted it and you cant get over it? PBM is a small shop with a bunch of customers, mistakes happen. But to get back on topic both are outstanding companies. PBM has most of my bus. for suspension parts.

Chernobyl · 10-16-2009, 11:13 PM

From personal experience with both, I will always recommend SPL over MAX.

EDacIouSX · 10-17-2009, 03:37 AM

if you watched MAX video on how they make arms, you will notice there arms are hollow. SPL arms are solid, also spl arms now have the same kind of kinks and what not that other companies do to support lowered cars.

SPL hands down is a top quality company with super awesome customer support.

*revat619* · 10-17-2009, 05:45 AM

Dont feed into all the bullshit hype. They're BOTH excellent quality. It really doesn't matter AT ALL which one you choose. I have all the PBM multi-link parts and they work great, plus they're local to me. In your case, SPL may be the best choice for you since they're local to you.

SPL, PBM, Battle Version, Cusco, its all good shit. Pick which color you like best and go with that.

end thread.

*swayray* · 10-17-2009, 10:40 AM

Spl seems local to you and Kuah has been developing and constantly been upgrading the arms he manufactured for years. Most of these upgrades and revisions are based on his own experience and other driver's input who had used his control arms in a track driven situation. I haven't yet to snap my SPL v2 tierod end i picked up 3 years ago.

Propaganda · 10-17-2009, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EDacIouSX

if you watched MAX video on how they make arms, you will notice there arms are hollow. SPL arms are solid, also spl arms now have the same kind of kinks and what not that other companies do to support lowered cars.

WTF? I'm pretty SPL uses HOLLOW chromoly tubes for their suspension. Maybe you're thinking of the Kinked end which is machined from solid steel.

Either way.. I like SPL better because it looks like the rod ends are of higher quality.. Hybrid adjusters are teh shit.. and they rock

Check this link to find out more about the quality of SPL's stuff

***FaLKoN240*** · 10-17-2009, 03:47 PM

Original crybaby thread: http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/28136...xdriftusa.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by ob1silvia

power by max sucks balls. I had bad experience with this company. took them forever to ship some lugnuts that were missing from my order called them left messages finnally after 2 weeks dan sent them. I would never order from them again then he got an attitude when I said I would tell everyone what poor service I recieved.

You're being a shitty customer, they got you back and apologized for their mistake, and you're still trying to get something out of them when they don't have anything to give. If you say you're not gonna order from them again, and tell all of your friends, they're supposed to do a complete 180* and suck your dick or something?

They're not a corporate company, and frankly your childish attitude and threatening to bash their name and company practice is grounds for an attitude.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Propaganda

WTF? I'm pretty SPL uses HOLLOW chromoly tubes for their suspension. Maybe you're thinking of the Kinked end which is machined from solid steel.

Either way.. I like SPL better because it looks like the rod ends are of higher quality.. Hybrid adjusters are teh shit.. and they rock

Check this link to find out more about the quality of SPL's stuff

Why would any company use solid suspension arms? That's stupid, arms are supposed to bend and break in the case of an accident so that more expensive pieces like the subframe and chassis don't get damaged.

If you take out the adjusters in your SPL arms you'll see that you can see right through them.

Solid does /= better.

*!Zar!* · 10-17-2009, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EDacIouSX

if you watched MAX video on how they make arms, you will notice there arms are hollow. SPL arms are solid, also spl arms now have the same kind of kinks and what not that other companies do to support lowered cars.

SPL hands down is a top quality company with super awesome customer support.

Both will break if you crash. So the easiest way to avoid them breaking would be...

From what I've seen, their products hold up. The only, "solid" linkage that SPL makes is the tension rod (last I checked). Doesn't matter. Run what you want.

twistex · 10-19-2009, 05:00 AM

I run spl parts on my s chassis. I was thinking about getting some pbm coils ... I like there links also but I changed my mind after there fender roller fell apart on the 2nd car I used it on. Bolts constantly come loose or strip. worst fender roller I have owned. I had to make modifications to it along the way of trying to keep it together. I had a Eastwood and only got pbm cause it was suppose to be easier for lower setups. The roller now sits on a shelf in a pile of dust. I really have a urge to send it back to them in a box with paper weight written on it.

*!Zar!* · 10-19-2009, 09:36 AM

Have you called them and explained your situation? It's hard to have R&D on a product without customer feedback.

Geno750 · 10-19-2009, 12:02 PM

Spherical jointed multi link arms all have the same issue, the spherical joints wear out, and get kinda loose after a while. SPL charges like $15~25 for new spherical joints. NOBODY to my knowledge does that, which makes them the best choice for anyone DDing a car while having upgraded multi link arms.

ImPLiCiTS14 · 10-21-2009, 08:20 PM

spl ftw very beefy and high quality parts. i only runs spl.

gpeele · 10-23-2009, 12:32 AM

I ran spl tension rods on a daily driver for three years on less than ideal roads with no problems. I pulled the parts off the s13 sold the chassis and bought a s14 to road race. I called spl and they sent me the s14 shanks at a discounted price and I just transferred over the rod ends from the s13 tension rods. Everything looked great no rust, no play when I inspected them before installing them on the s14 shanks. A few months ago I got into a horrible shunt at Summit point and totally wrecked the passenger side of the s14 everything was mangled, even the lower control arm, and my yashio factory core support brace. The spl tension rod though was still straight, no play in the bearing, no hairline cracks on any of the parts when look at under microscope at work. I will always buy spl parts.

SochBAT · 10-23-2009, 02:38 AM

SPL.

When they upgrade their shit, you can trade your old parts in!

yokotavia · 10-23-2009, 08:46 AM

powered by max because they're orange.

really psm>spl

shogun! · 11-20-2009, 08:18 AM

I went with SPL v5 outers and Tein beefy Z33 inners.
Good? Oh yes!

10-13-2009, 10:47 PM	#1
syline13 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Houston, TX Age: 41 Posts: 36 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	choosing Powered By MAX or SPL!!! What do you guys think for Multilink Suspension? Which one will be great for s13 ......Powered By MAX or SPL................. please suggest me............its mostly daily drive n sometimes for drift fun......any other reasonable brand?

10-13-2009, 11:15 PM	#4
*FaLKoN240* Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 16,760 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	If you have the little bit extra, go all the way and get SPL, PBM I'd say is next up the list. Only reason I say SPL is better is because Kuah when he develops new upgraded parts and starts selling them he let's you pay a small amount to get the upgraded part. PBM doesn't do that. __________________ Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.

10-13-2009, 11:37 PM	#6
Flipzide Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,011 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	im down with Parts Shop MAX 100%. their parts are beefy, welds are excellent, and a lot of their stuff is made in house. also, the parts are developed mainly for low cars and drifting and the parts reflect towards the needs of most drifters... customer service is excellent as well. i've never had problems with dan, dave, or martin when i visit their shop. nothing bad against SPL either though; i use their brake lines. both are very good brands. go with whatever is in your budget... __________________ D-Street.net \| bcuison.wordpress.com

10-14-2009, 05:54 AM	#8
jr_ss Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pa Posts: 6,052 Trader Rating: (34) Feedback Score: 34 reviews	There is a review on the SPL arms on www.motoiq.com, check it out. __________________ My SR20VET

10-16-2009, 09:46 PM	#14
xpertsnowcarver Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: LA, CA Posts: 2,667 Trader Rating: (44) Feedback Score: 44 reviews	I've used both. Both are great quality parts. __________________ My YouTube Channel

10-13-2009, 10:56 PM	#2
ManoNegra Guild of Skullduggerous Intent Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Socal Posts: 7,841 Trader Rating: (48) Feedback Score: 48 reviews	SPL, been around for quite a while and hands down some of the best customer service in the industry plus, they're in Texas aswell

10-13-2009, 11:12 PM	#3
^fraktal^ Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Seattle Age: 38 Posts: 223 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	i have every pbm arm on my car right now. i got a good deal on them all and they work. if i had that money back today i would have went out and spent the extra on spl.

10-13-2009, 11:18 PM	#5
om3ga Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Up and Down! California Posts: 878 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	I use a mixture of arms, Megan rucas, pbm toe and traction links. Tein tension rods. My cars just a Mutt of brands.

10-13-2009, 11:52 PM	#7
C-unit Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vancouver, Hongkong. Age: 36 Posts: 1,808 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Just spend the extra money with SPL arms.

10-15-2009, 01:31 PM	#9
ob1silvia Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: long beach Age: 51 Posts: 48 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	power by max sucks balls. I had bad experience with this company. took them forever to ship some lugnuts that were missing from my order called them left messages finnally after 2 weeks dan sent them. I would never order from them again then he got an attitude when I said I would tell everyone what poor service I recieved.

10-16-2009, 09:24 PM	#12
ob1silvia Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: long beach Age: 51 Posts: 48 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yes that was me j dick just givin my thoughts about pbm you actin like you suckin there's wow it's cool .

10-16-2009, 11:13 PM	#16
Chernobyl Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Denver, CO Age: 38 Posts: 1,563 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	From personal experience with both, I will always recommend SPL over MAX.

10-17-2009, 03:37 AM	#17
EDacIouSX Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles Age: 35 Posts: 4,527 Trader Rating: (53) Rides Gallery: EDacIouSX Feedback Score: 53 reviews	if you watched MAX video on how they make arms, you will notice there arms are hollow. SPL arms are solid, also spl arms now have the same kind of kinks and what not that other companies do to support lowered cars. SPL hands down is a top quality company with super awesome customer support.

10-17-2009, 05:45 AM	#18
revat619 Retired General Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,672 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Dont feed into all the bullshit hype. They're BOTH excellent quality. It really doesn't matter AT ALL which one you choose. I have all the PBM multi-link parts and they work great, plus they're local to me. In your case, SPL may be the best choice for you since they're local to you. SPL, PBM, Battle Version, Cusco, its all good shit. Pick which color you like best and go with that. end thread. __________________ www.Jspec.com www.SpeedAlliance.com www.PoweredByMax.net Instagram: @rjsladerade

10-17-2009, 10:40 AM	#19
swayray Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: torrance Posts: 1,017 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: swayray Feedback Score: 23 reviews	Spl seems local to you and Kuah has been developing and constantly been upgrading the arms he manufactured for years. Most of these upgrades and revisions are based on his own experience and other driver's input who had used his control arms in a track driven situation. I haven't yet to snap my SPL v2 tierod end i picked up 3 years ago. __________________ http://www.thenismoshop.com

10-19-2009, 05:00 AM	#23
twistex Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Modesto, Ca Age: 39 Posts: 129 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I run spl parts on my s chassis. I was thinking about getting some pbm coils ... I like there links also but I changed my mind after there fender roller fell apart on the 2nd car I used it on. Bolts constantly come loose or strip. worst fender roller I have owned. I had to make modifications to it along the way of trying to keep it together. I had a Eastwood and only got pbm cause it was suppose to be easier for lower setups. The roller now sits on a shelf in a pile of dust. I really have a urge to send it back to them in a box with paper weight written on it. __________________

10-19-2009, 09:36 AM	#24
!Zar! Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,576 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Have you called them and explained your situation? It's hard to have R&D on a product without customer feedback. __________________

10-19-2009, 12:02 PM	#25
Geno750 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Aurora, CO Age: 36 Posts: 375 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Spherical jointed multi link arms all have the same issue, the spherical joints wear out, and get kinda loose after a while. SPL charges like $15~25 for new spherical joints. NOBODY to my knowledge does that, which makes them the best choice for anyone DDing a car while having upgraded multi link arms.

10-21-2009, 08:20 PM	#26
ImPLiCiTS14 Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Going thru a honda near u Posts: 187 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	spl ftw very beefy and high quality parts. i only runs spl.

10-23-2009, 12:32 AM	#27
gpeele Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 31 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I ran spl tension rods on a daily driver for three years on less than ideal roads with no problems. I pulled the parts off the s13 sold the chassis and bought a s14 to road race. I called spl and they sent me the s14 shanks at a discounted price and I just transferred over the rod ends from the s13 tension rods. Everything looked great no rust, no play when I inspected them before installing them on the s14 shanks. A few months ago I got into a horrible shunt at Summit point and totally wrecked the passenger side of the s14 everything was mangled, even the lower control arm, and my yashio factory core support brace. The spl tension rod though was still straight, no play in the bearing, no hairline cracks on any of the parts when look at under microscope at work. I will always buy spl parts.

10-23-2009, 02:38 AM	#28
SochBAT Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Age: 35 Posts: 6,428 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: SochBAT Feedback Score: 9 reviews	SPL. When they upgrade their shit, you can trade your old parts in!

10-23-2009, 08:46 AM	#29
yokotavia Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The land of bosos and schoolgirls Posts: 679 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	powered by max because they're orange. really psm>spl __________________ Banana boat chronicles

11-20-2009, 08:18 AM	#30
shogun! Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 367 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I went with SPL v5 outers and Tein beefy Z33 inners. Good? Oh yes!

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