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silvialove · 03-30-2009, 10:55 PM

Anyone familiar with removing the "rear seat support"?

Besides using a chisel and a hammer:
-Too loud (for the neighbors)
-Time consuming
-Sometimes would go through the metal

-& Overall just too damn hard

From this:

To this:

Ready to lay down some primer but this is the only thing that is stopping me

repda916 · 03-30-2009, 11:37 PM

ummm? buy a wrecked coupe sawzall shock supports out weld in place of hatch shock supports?

silvialove · 03-31-2009, 02:44 PM

im pretty sure there's another way.
sounds even more difficult, complicated, and time consuming.
but thanks for the input.

repda916 · 03-31-2009, 02:49 PM

so you already know your answer then?
whats the point anyways?

silvialove · 03-31-2009, 03:00 PM

thats the thing, i dont...
im just saying looking at pics of the gutted s13 hb's, it doesnt seem like that would be the best way to go.
a zilvian said to use a grinder but i want more suggestions before i go through with this.
im not here to argue, just looking for answers.

slo_slideways · 03-31-2009, 03:31 PM

Id say a grinder would be the quickest/easiest way. Cut the main part of it off with a metal cut-off wheel and then grind down any excess that is still there.

silvialove · 03-31-2009, 04:41 PM

sounds like it'll be the grinder, thanks.

toointoxicated62 · 03-31-2009, 07:57 PM

looks like it might be spot welded if it us drill them out, if its not i would use a cut off wheel for the bulk of it and then a grinder

silvialove · 03-31-2009, 09:59 PM

yeah they are,
but i don't think ill drill them out and make the inside of my car look like swiss cheese

i'd love to sit and wait to look at all my options but due to the lack of responses & time

considering i want the inside painted and all & put back together in a month or less,
i think the grinder is the best approach since that seems to be the general answer

repda916 · 04-01-2009, 12:09 AM

i would use a grinder, or fuk it and use a saw zall

southerncross · 04-01-2009, 06:14 PM

why the hell would you want to cut those out? are you building a full cage for your car?

toointoxicated62 · 04-01-2009, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silvialove

yeah they are,
but i don't think ill drill them out and make the inside of my car look like swiss cheese

i'd love to sit and wait to look at all my options but due to the lack of responses & time

considering i want the inside painted and all & put back together in a month or less,
i think the grinder is the best approach since that seems to be the general answer

theres actually bits that will just remove the weld, one layer. A grinder tends to do what it wants and will eat threw the material pretty quick without you realizing

s13tilldeath* · 04-01-2009, 10:28 PM

there are a couple zilvians who have done this.... find them and ask them.....

Or just use the grinder...... what ever blows your skert up.....

silvialove · 04-01-2009, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southerncross

why the hell would you want to cut those out? are you building a full cage for your car?

nah not going that big right now bc of the lack of funds.
just want a clean gutted look,
which is why i've spent the last few months & countless hours sanding & bondo'ing every seem weld, imperfection, etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by toointoxicated62

theres actually bits that will just remove the weld, one layer. A grinder tends to do what it wants and will eat threw the material pretty quick without you realizing

can you expand on how i would go about doing this?

is there a certain product out there that does this?

Quote:

Originally Posted by s13tilldeath*

there are a couple zilvians who have done this.... find them and ask them.....

Or just use the grinder...... what ever blows your skert up.....

yeah im pretty sure im not first to attempt/do this removal hence the pic of the s13 w/o the rear seat support.
like i mentioned before, i need answers and need them fast.
trying to find the zilvians who have done this before would just be a PITA.
which is why i justed started a thread

g6civcx · 04-01-2009, 10:51 PM

I have done this. Drilled out the spot welds and then filled in the holes. Done.

silvialove · 04-01-2009, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g6civcx

I have done this. Drilled out the spot welds and then filled in the holes. Done.

If you drill the spot welds, the drill exits out to the underbody of your car so how would you fill the holes?

supportTHEezln · 04-01-2009, 11:36 PM

You could weld the holes shut, but as previously mentioned they make drill bits for it.

If you google it a bunch of 'em come up, I just checked.

silvialove · 04-01-2009, 11:58 PM

Thanks a bunch,
I'll check it out

projectRDM · 04-02-2009, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silvialove

If you drill the spot welds, the drill exits out to the underbody of your car so how would you fill the holes?

By not drilling through the car. A spot weld cutter only cuts the first layer of metal. If you're a gorilla with it you will go through the second layer, but that's up to you. I personally try to use a tool as it's designed.

Welcome to Earth by the way. They've been making spot weld cutters since they invented spot welds.

g6civcx · 04-02-2009, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by projectRDM

By not drilling through the car. A spot weld cutter only cuts the first layer of metal. If you're a gorilla with it you will go through the second layer, but that's up to you. I personally try to use a tool as it's designed.

Welcome to Earth by the way. They've been making spot weld cutters since they invented spot welds.

Word up homeys. Even if you do drill entirely through the body, you can still patch up the holes.

Just go to any body shop supplier and ask what they suggest to patch up holes in sheet metal. You'll figure it out.

toointoxicated62 · 04-02-2009, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by projectRDM

By not drilling through the car. A spot weld cutter only cuts the first layer of metal. If you're a gorilla with it you will go through the second layer, but that's up to you. I personally try to use a tool as it's designed.

Welcome to Earth by the way. They've been making spot weld cutters since they invented spot welds.

Exactly take your time and use the tool properly and you wont drill threw the second layer.

s13tilldeath* · 04-02-2009, 12:34 PM

you have your awnser this thread has no point anymore....

everybody is saying the same thing so i say you take that advice and figure it out.....

we can not do it for you...... the best thing i have heard so far would be to get a spot weld cutter.....

end of story.... Good luck with it....

silvialove · 04-02-2009, 03:35 PM

thanks, i really appreciate it guys

03-30-2009, 10:55 PM	#1
silvialove Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: La Mirada/UCI Age: 31 Posts: 267 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Gutting- Plz Help Anyone familiar with removing the "rear seat support"? Besides using a chisel and a hammer: -Too loud (for the neighbors) -Time consuming -Sometimes would go through the metal -& Overall just too damn hard From this: To this: Ready to lay down some primer but this is the only thing that is stopping me

03-31-2009, 03:31 PM	#6
slo_slideways Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sactown Age: 36 Posts: 69 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Id say a grinder would be the quickest/easiest way. Cut the main part of it off with a metal cut-off wheel and then grind down any excess that is still there. __________________ REPPIN' NORCAL HARDER THAN HERSHEY'S TURTLE SHELL CHOCOLATE SHIZ!!!

04-02-2009, 12:34 PM	#22
s13tilldeath* Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 436 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	you have your awnser this thread has no point anymore.... everybody is saying the same thing so i say you take that advice and figure it out..... we can not do it for you...... the best thing i have heard so far would be to get a spot weld cutter..... end of story.... Good luck with it.... Last edited by s13tilldeath; 04-02-2009 at 03:48 PM..*

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03-30-2009, 11:37 PM	#2
repda916 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: cali Age: 29 Posts: 999 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ummm? buy a wrecked coupe sawzall shock supports out weld in place of hatch shock supports?

03-31-2009, 02:44 PM	#3
silvialove Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: La Mirada/UCI Age: 31 Posts: 267 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	im pretty sure there's another way. sounds even more difficult, complicated, and time consuming. but thanks for the input.

03-31-2009, 02:49 PM	#4
repda916 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: cali Age: 29 Posts: 999 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	so you already know your answer then? whats the point anyways?

03-31-2009, 03:00 PM	#5
silvialove Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: La Mirada/UCI Age: 31 Posts: 267 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	thats the thing, i dont... im just saying looking at pics of the gutted s13 hb's, it doesnt seem like that would be the best way to go. a zilvian said to use a grinder but i want more suggestions before i go through with this. im not here to argue, just looking for answers.

03-31-2009, 04:41 PM	#7
silvialove Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: La Mirada/UCI Age: 31 Posts: 267 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	sounds like it'll be the grinder, thanks.

03-31-2009, 07:57 PM	#8
toointoxicated62 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NY Age: 31 Posts: 148 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	looks like it might be spot welded if it us drill them out, if its not i would use a cut off wheel for the bulk of it and then a grinder

03-31-2009, 09:59 PM	#9
silvialove Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: La Mirada/UCI Age: 31 Posts: 267 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	yeah they are, but i don't think ill drill them out and make the inside of my car look like swiss cheese i'd love to sit and wait to look at all my options but due to the lack of responses & time considering i want the inside painted and all & put back together in a month or less, i think the grinder is the best approach since that seems to be the general answer

04-01-2009, 12:09 AM	#10
repda916 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: cali Age: 29 Posts: 999 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i would use a grinder, or fuk it and use a saw zall

04-01-2009, 06:14 PM	#11
southerncross Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: georgia Age: 39 Posts: 69 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	why the hell would you want to cut those out? are you building a full cage for your car?

04-01-2009, 10:28 PM	#13
s13tilldeath* Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 436 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	there are a couple zilvians who have done this.... find them and ask them..... Or just use the grinder...... what ever blows your skert up.....

04-01-2009, 10:51 PM	#15
g6civcx Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 5,764 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	I have done this. Drilled out the spot welds and then filled in the holes. Done.

04-01-2009, 11:36 PM	#17
supportTHEezln Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Los Angeles Age: 36 Posts: 552 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	You could weld the holes shut, but as previously mentioned they make drill bits for it. If you google it a bunch of 'em come up, I just checked.

04-01-2009, 11:58 PM	#18
silvialove Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: La Mirada/UCI Age: 31 Posts: 267 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Thanks a bunch, I'll check it out

04-02-2009, 03:35 PM	#23
silvialove Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: La Mirada/UCI Age: 31 Posts: 267 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	thanks, i really appreciate it guys