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240booster · 12-07-2001, 03:03 AM

I just saw that link on the links page but i can't get it to come up ... something about an error at homestead or something .... Neway, who is this and how the #### did he get 230rwhp NA?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

12-07-2001, 07:40 AM

i dont think that site had any REAL info on 230 rwhp..... but i dont remember.. sorry

Sws681 · 12-07-2001, 08:37 AM

Is that even possible without a turbo.  I would imagine you would have to do some serious engine work.  If anyone knows, I'm interested.

12-07-2001, 08:39 AM

he must have that thing bored out to at least 2.7 or something but i still dont see how its possible

Sws681 · 12-07-2001, 08:47 AM

Thats crazy! ! ! Well I have a  95 S14.  I need the power.  I got the bodykit on order and my stereo finished. Including my interior. All I have to do is put the paint on when the body kit arrives and add power.  I'm trying to decice whether to just go with the stage 3 N sport turbo kit. or to swap the engine with a sr20.  They'll both be around the same price. What should I do.

12-07-2001, 08:51 AM

get the n-sport turboe'd ka's have so much more character!

**West** · 12-07-2001, 09:51 AM

That was some guy who claimed to have 230rwhp. Kinda stupid if you ask me. There is no way to get 230rwhp out of the KA on NA without some MAJOR MAJOR high compression, which the kid didnt have.

Zenki Two40 · 12-07-2001, 09:56 AM

that site never worked for me, but did he mention what he had done to the car? i can't tell cuz he never paid for his homestead page once they started charging i guess.

Sws681 · 12-07-2001, 10:32 AM

He probally meant 230 at the flywheel and was just geussing what horspower he had from various bolt-ons.
I wouldn't believe it unless I saw a bill for some serious race work done which would of been cheaper to buy a turbo kit, or a dyno sheet.

drift freaq · 12-07-2001, 10:39 AM

Well its possible. Of course it would cost quite a bit. you could probably get away without overboaring. though you would have to kife edge the crank ,race pop up pistons with race rings, shotpeen the rods balance and blueprint the whole assembly to nth degree. Then you would start work on the head . This is were you are going to extract  alot of extra juice. Larger valves , race valve job, serious port work and some nasty ass race cams. Then you would focus on the fuel system. Larger injectors and throttle body , cold air intake, Major ecu upgrade.  you therotically could pull it off. By the way what I just described is like a $6000. engine job.  Simple solution, Turbo or supercharger, save money, more reliable due to less race modified components.

*nismo270r* · 12-07-2001, 11:25 AM

Well, Rich Bjornson of Fatman Racing has a N/A 240 that he's worked on a bit. IIRC, he was still putting out under 200 rwhp. I think it was somewhere in the neighborhood of 170ish or something, which isn't really that bad for NA. As far as boring out the KA, it's almost impossible, since the KA is bored almost to it's extreme. There's not that much farther to go without getting the walls critically thin. 2.7L would be impossible out of a KA. I think a N/A KA that has been worked over would be a pretty rough drive on the street. Usually going N/A means RAW power...real rough. That's why turbos are so nice...still have the refined feeling for everyday street driving, and the "PSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHH" for when you wanna haul some arse! :biggrin:

whateverjames · 12-07-2001, 12:27 PM

i was there when rich dyno'd at the UNoN meet <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'> were you there too? i thought he had 165 though which is still good. i read in one of his posts, he tied with a 30th ann. trans am 6 speed with exhaust and chip, all the way through 3rd gear. not bad.

*nismo270r* · 12-07-2001, 07:22 PM

No...I didn't make it to UNoN, but I talked with Rich on a semi regular basis...That's pretty wild that he was keeping up with that TA!!

icon · 12-07-2001, 07:31 PM

well at 5 hp a sticker, 20hp wing, 10hp body kit, and 1 hp per inch of rims. it can easily be done.

12-07-2001, 08:05 PM

I don't know if this is the same site I saw a while back, but the site I saw the guy was running 12.5:1 compression with many other mods.  He said he was selling the engine to go turbo because he had to run 100 octane feul which was too expensive.

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12-07-2001, 03:03 AM	#1
240booster Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 245 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I just saw that link on the links page but i can't get it to come up ... something about an error at homestead or something .... Neway, who is this and how the #### did he get 230rwhp NA?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>

12-07-2001, 07:40 AM	#2
Guest Posts: n/a	i dont think that site had any REAL info on 230 rwhp..... but i dont remember.. sorry

12-07-2001, 08:37 AM	#3
Sws681 Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Is that even possible without a turbo.  I would imagine you would have to do some serious engine work.  If anyone knows, I'm interested.

12-07-2001, 08:39 AM	#4
Guest Posts: n/a	he must have that thing bored out to at least 2.7 or something but i still dont see how its possible

12-07-2001, 08:47 AM	#5
Sws681 Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thats crazy! ! ! Well I have a  95 S14.  I need the power.  I got the bodykit on order and my stereo finished. Including my interior. All I have to do is put the paint on when the body kit arrives and add power.  I'm trying to decice whether to just go with the stage 3 N sport turbo kit. or to swap the engine with a sr20.  They'll both be around the same price. What should I do.

12-07-2001, 08:51 AM	#6
Guest Posts: n/a	get the n-sport turboe'd ka's have so much more character!

12-07-2001, 09:51 AM	#7
West OMNOMNOMNOM Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Denver, CO Age: 40 Posts: 6,456 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: West Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That was some guy who claimed to have 230rwhp. Kinda stupid if you ask me. There is no way to get 230rwhp out of the KA on NA without some MAJOR MAJOR high compression, which the kid didnt have.

12-07-2001, 09:56 AM	#8
Zenki Two40 Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: ... Posts: 285 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	that site never worked for me, but did he mention what he had done to the car? i can't tell cuz he never paid for his homestead page once they started charging i guess.

12-07-2001, 10:32 AM	#9
Sws681 Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	He probally meant 230 at the flywheel and was just geussing what horspower he had from various bolt-ons. I wouldn't believe it unless I saw a bill for some serious race work done which would of been cheaper to buy a turbo kit, or a dyno sheet.

12-07-2001, 10:39 AM	#10
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,558 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	Well its possible. Of course it would cost quite a bit. you could probably get away without overboaring. though you would have to kife edge the crank ,race pop up pistons with race rings, shotpeen the rods balance and blueprint the whole assembly to nth degree. Then you would start work on the head . This is were you are going to extract  alot of extra juice. Larger valves , race valve job, serious port work and some nasty ass race cams. Then you would focus on the fuel system. Larger injectors and throttle body , cold air intake, Major ecu upgrade.  you therotically could pull it off. By the way what I just described is like a $6000. engine job.  Simple solution, Turbo or supercharger, save money, more reliable due to less race modified components.

12-07-2001, 11:25 AM	#11
nismo270r Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Lafayette, IN Age: 41 Posts: 715 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well, Rich Bjornson of Fatman Racing has a N/A 240 that he's worked on a bit. IIRC, he was still putting out under 200 rwhp. I think it was somewhere in the neighborhood of 170ish or something, which isn't really that bad for NA. As far as boring out the KA, it's almost impossible, since the KA is bored almost to it's extreme. There's not that much farther to go without getting the walls critically thin. 2.7L would be impossible out of a KA. I think a N/A KA that has been worked over would be a pretty rough drive on the street. Usually going N/A means RAW power...real rough. That's why turbos are so nice...still have the refined feeling for everyday street driving, and the "PSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHH" for when you wanna haul some arse! :biggrin:

12-07-2001, 12:27 PM	#12
whateverjames Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis Age: 41 Posts: 2,263 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i was there when rich dyno'd at the UNoN meet <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'> were you there too? i thought he had 165 though which is still good. i read in one of his posts, he tied with a 30th ann. trans am 6 speed with exhaust and chip, all the way through 3rd gear. not bad.

12-07-2001, 07:22 PM	#13
nismo270r Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Lafayette, IN Age: 41 Posts: 715 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	No...I didn't make it to UNoN, but I talked with Rich on a semi regular basis...That's pretty wild that he was keeping up with that TA!!

12-07-2001, 07:31 PM	#14
icon Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: santacruz Posts: 13 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well at 5 hp a sticker, 20hp wing, 10hp body kit, and 1 hp per inch of rims. it can easily be done.

12-07-2001, 08:05 PM	#15
Guest Posts: n/a	I don't know if this is the same site I saw a while back, but the site I saw the guy was running 12.5:1 compression with many other mods.  He said he was selling the engine to go turbo because he had to run 100 octane feul which was too expensive.