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pFiled under: a href="http://www.autoblog.com/category/coupes/" rel="tag"Coupe/a, a href="http://www.autoblog.com/category/sports/" rel="tag"Performance/a, a href="http://www.autoblog.com/category/nissan/" rel="tag"Nissan/a/pdiv style="text-align:center"img hspace="4" border="0" vspace="4" alt="" src="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/12/2012-gtr-accel.jpg"/divbrWhat's it take to accelerate from 0 to 60 mph in just under three seconds flat? According to a href="http://autoblog.com/make/nissan"Nissan/a, it takes exactly 530 horsepower and 448 pound-feet of torque, coupled to a sophisticated electronic all-wheel-drive system and a dual-clutch transmission.brbrPut more simply in actual dollars and cents, that will cost you $89,950. For those unaware, that's the sum Nissan is asking for its updated a href="http://www.autoblog.com/model/gtr"2012 GT-R/a, which recently a href="http://www.autoblog.com/2010/11/17/2012-nissan-gt-r-la-2010/"made its live American debut/a at the a href="http://www.autoblog.com/category/la-auto-show/"2010 LA Auto Show/a. The Japanese automaker has kindly provided a digital readout from an electronic measurement device from Digitek to silence the doubters (above). As you can strikeclearly/strike squint and see, the GT-R hit 60 miles per hour in 2.9 seconds and 100 kilometers per hour (62 mph) in exactly three seconds.brbrYour move, a href="http://www.autoblog.com/model/zr1"Corvette ZR1/a.brbrbrdivpstrongGallery: a href="http://www.autoblog.com/photos/la-2010-2012-nissan-gt-r"LA 2010: 2012 Nissan GT-R/a/strong/pa href="http://www.autoblog.com/photos/la-2010-2012-nissan-gt-r/"img src="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/11/01-2012-nissan-gt-r-live_thumbnail.jpg" alt="2012 Nissan GT-R" title="2012 Nissan GT-R"/aa href="http://www.autoblog.com/photos/la-2010-2012-nissan-gt-r/"img src="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/11/02-2012-nissan-gt-r-live_thumbnail.jpg" alt="2012 Nissan GT-R" title="2012 Nissan GT-R"/aa href="http://www.autoblog.com/photos/la-2010-2012-nissan-gt-r/"img src="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/11/03-2012-nissan-gt-r-live_thumbnail.jpg" alt="2012 Nissan GT-R" title="2012 Nissan GT-R"/aa href="http://www.autoblog.com/photos/la-2010-2012-nissan-gt-r/"img src="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/11/04-2012-nissan-gt-r-live_thumbnail.jpg" alt="2012 Nissan GT-R" title="2012 Nissan GT-R"/aa href="http://www.autoblog.com/photos/la-2010-2012-nissan-gt-r/"img src="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/11/05-2012-nissan-gt-r-live_thumbnail.jpg" alt="2012 Nissan GT-R" title="2012 Nissan GT-R"/a/divbrdivpstrongGallery: a href="http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2012-nissan-gt-r-4/"2012 Nissan GT-R/a/strong/pa href="http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2012-nissan-gt-r-4/#3581684"img src="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/11/03-2012-nissan-gt-r_thumbnail.jpg" alt="" title=""/aa href="http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2012-nissan-gt-r-4/#3581698"img src="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/11/16-2012-nissan-gt-r_thumbnail.jpg" alt="" title=""/aa href="http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2012-nissan-gt-r-4/#3581695"img src="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/11/13-2012-nissan-gt-r_thumbnail.jpg" alt="" title=""/aa href="http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2012-nissan-gt-r-4/#3581696"img src="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/11/14-2012-nissan-gt-r_thumbnail.jpg" alt="" title=""/aa href="http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2012-nissan-gt-r-4/#3581697"img src="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/11/15-2012-nissan-gt-r_thumbnail.jpg" alt="" title=""/a/divbr[Source: Nissan]pa href="http://www.autoblog.com/2010/12/02/2012-nissan-gt-r-officially-goes-0-60-in-2-9-seconds/" rel="bookmark"Continue reading em2012 Nissan GT-R officially goes 0-60 in 2.9 seconds/em/a/pp style="padding:5px;background:#ddd;border:1px solid #ccc;clear:both"a href="http://www.autoblog.com/2010/12/02/2012-nissan-gt-r-officially-goes-0-60-in-2-9-seconds/"2012 Nissan GT-R officially goes 0-60 in 2.9 seconds/a originally appeared on a href="http://www.autoblog.com"Autoblog/a on Thu, 02 Dec 2010 13:01:00 EST. 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Silverstreek

Cliff's notes?

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sloterg

i think i'd have an easier time reading 0's and 1's

ronmcdon

just click on the link "More"

What's it take to accelerate from 0 to 60 mph in just under three seconds flat? According to Nissan, it takes exactly 530 horsepower and 448 pound-feet of torque, coupled to a sophisticated electronic all-wheel-drive system and a dual-clutch transmission.

Put more simply in actual dollars and cents, that will cost you $89,950. For those unaware, that's the sum Nissan is asking for its updated 2012 GT-R, which recently made its live American debut at the 2010 LA Auto Show. The Japanese automaker has kindly provided a digital readout from an electronic measurement device from Digitek to silence the doubters (above). As you can clearly squint and see, the GT-R hit 60 miles per hour in 2.9 seconds and 100 kilometers per hour (62 mph) in exactly three seconds.

Your move, Corvette ZR1.

It's a great car, I just wish the price hikes weren't so damn aggressive.
probably it's the shitty overpriced yen

squeak

sweet car, but i cant believe that for 90k you still get textured plastic rocker moldings

swingsett

^^^^^^ yes

the interior of this car is bullshit.

Walperstyle

You've never driven one I'm guessing. It's not trying to be a custom suit for the Pope.

Most people that comment on the car, love or hate have never even been in one. Its a drivers car.

That said I agree that $90k could build about 5 insane s chassis cars. But if you are one of those business executives, the GTR should be more tempting then the other cars of the same price range.

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ronmcdon

I can't see how anyone would buy a GTR for it's interior.
It can't possibly be worse than the C6 ZR-1 or the Viper.

Besides, if that's all you can fault it for, then it just goes to show there's not a whole lot to complain about.
Also, I don't see how that's relevant to this particular thread anyways.

squeak

youre right, ive never driven one. i think the specs and everything ive read are awesome, and would love the chance to drive one. but sitting in front of a computer looking at pictures i can only comment on what i can see and read, and i can see that the black plastic rocker moldings just look cheap to me. makes me think of a work truck.

VNG704

have you seen a c6's interior?

codyace

I was just gonna say, anyone who dimissess the current Corvettes interior as no more than a Cavaliers either

A: Has never been near one
B: Certainly has never driven one
C: Spends to much time fapping to car rags who rate lesser cars better due to the 'fine alacentera cloth' not the performance.


A new C6 (zo6 and zr1 even moreso) has a badass interior...cockpit like for damn sure.

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With that said I can't wait to see some '12 at the tracks this year....as I can say the previous GTR was a great run for the Z06's, both in section times/speeds and overall speeds and times.

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BOROSUN

vs






boring & unaspiring
i like older vette interior better.

Z33dori

most cars today excluding exotics have pretty.... dull plastic interiors... what do you want heavy metal for your int?

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BOROSUN

that be nice

ronmcdon

Ok, so I guess we're discussing interior design now.

I've actually been test driving some used C5 Z06's and C6 Z06's regular C6's throughout the recent years.
Honestly, the cars are wonderful overall, but the interiors are where they fall short.

I can live with a so-so interior, but the lack of lateral support on Vette seats (remind me of the lame Miata seats) is just difficult to ignore.
You can see in those seats that the side bolsters/cushioning/whatever is a bit wimpy.
It's not a deal killer, but you do have to factor in the cost & hassle of buying better seats.

The worst thing I can think of about the GTR interior is the Bose sound-system.
Oh and the fancy orange upholstery is pretty guady too.
Otherwise I admire the functional spartan approach.

Limitless Ultd.

Very nicely put. The Corvette has class, but as an avid Nissan fan, I'd vote GTR in heart beat.

codyace

I"m a fan of what goes fast. Zo6 does the job, ZR1 just makes GTR look silly.

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rb25_s13*CHUKI

Zr1 Is a drivers car, Gtr Is a non drivers car. People drive Zr1, Computer drives Gtr

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ronmcdon

Just to be clear, I quoted from said article.
I didn't say that.

I do agree with the article though and think it's very impressive that the '12 GTR is once again setting a higher bar.
I can't see the harm at all, if Nissan's provoking GM to do better.
It's undeniably great performance at a relative price steal.

Of course, C6 Z06's aren't bad either, if you buy some used examples @ $30k-ish.
Can't think of anything, new or used that will touch them performance-wise at that price-point.
Go find an R35 GTR w/ under 40k mi for $35k, probably not going to happen anytime soon.

KOUKIboy

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That interior is Boss!!! shit is nice, and thats fucken fast 0-60 in 2.9 seconds, I wish my car was fast like that LOL

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shadowhunter66

Okay, lets look at some of the most talked about specs for both cars.
Price of the 2012 GTR: $89,950
Price of ZR1: $111,100
GTR Power: 530 HP/448 TQ
ZR1 Power: 638 HP/604 TQ
GTR lbs: roughly 3820
ZR1 lbs: 3352
GTR 0-60:2.9 Sec
ZR1 0-60:3.3 Sec
GTR 1/2 Mile: Unknown (2009 Model: 11.6)
ZR1 1/2 Mile: 11.2


Over all the GTR is more impressive seeing how they managed to pull the numbers and achievements they have through technological advances and research. fficeffice" />>>
The ZR1 is also damn impressive, but GM went with their usually formula of big power, balance, and grunt... for a lot more money though. >>
I'm at work so I can't gather all my thoughts right now but I think thats the basics of what I was thinking. >>

fearlessKouki

i actually like how the interiors in gtr looks...looks amazing to me!

GenPac

The 0-60 discrepancy is most likely due to the advantage in grip and the dual-clutch manumatic trans, though I would think the offset of weight (+472lbs) and Torque (-156ft.lbs.) would make it less. /shrug

ronmcdon

think that just goes to show what Nissan can accomplish,
given the substantial power/weight handicap & still coming out ahead.
ZR-1 will probably still come ahead in the 1/4 mi though.

codyace

All of the HP and Torque disadvantge in the world is 'evened' by the amazing amount of traction and the substantial gearing advantage, especially below 80 mph that the GTR has. Look at the First gear...IIRC it's a 3.xx something! Nuts! That's how you get a 4000+ pig out of the hole.

Trap speed however does show the HP difference...Stock GTR are 118-120 car...all zr1 I've sen are 129/131 cars...HUGE


...lets not also forget that 'equalizing' the traction by putting crappy drag radials (wish they were slicks) on the ZR1 puts it into the mid 10.6/10.7 range at over 130 mph I think there are guys with bolt ons in the upper 9's...how much money did AMS dump into that GTR to barley run 9's?

The better platform is the Vette, hands down. GTR is nice though. In the end they are totally different cars IMO.

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SuicidnS13

++++10000 for truth... I have to argue this to every nissan fanboy on every 240 board. Have you guys looked at the damn maintenance costs on the gtr. Its like you bought a ferrari with out the pussy magnet attached LOL... My buddy is on his third tranny, this time it was not warrantied ... 23k installed....lol wtf

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shadowhunter66

At the same time, any car with that type of performance will have high costs to keep it running. I don't know how the ZR1 is but I bet its also very expensive, maybe not as expensive as the GTR but you still need a lot of pocket change to afford either one.
As for your friend and his transmissions.. they've pretty much resolved most of people claims and transmission problems so if that's his third one then I'd be looking at the owner as opposed to the car hence why the last time wasn't covered under warranty. Yeah I am a nissan fan since my dad owned a Z, I've owned 2, and I just kinda grew up around em', but I'm not bagging on the ZR1, because it really does impress.

rb25_s13*CHUKI

Like I said computer drives gtr and human drives zr1

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superbike81

We aren't all Michael Schumacher, and just from what I've seen on different magazine reviews and video reviews of the ZR1, you better be a DAMN good driver if you want to get anywhere close to the lap times they quote at any track.

With the GTR you can be just a slightly above average driver at the track and still go VERY fast.

I'll take the GTR for that very reason, I'm a decent performance driver at best, and I have no desire to spend the time or money to massively improve my skills. So for that one or two times a year I went to the track with my hypothetical 2012 GTR, I think I would have much more fun.