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kidcrossover69 · 11-28-2007, 09:16 PM

like the title says i need help with my sunroof. I checked the fuse, relay and motor. All working properly but it still wont close shut. I have no clue its for a 1991 240sx coupe help me out here any ideas.

240sx_LE · 11-28-2007, 09:18 PM

they had motorized sunroofs? wow, didnt know that.. cool.

*fliprayzin240sx* · 11-28-2007, 09:18 PM

Have you tried to close it while actually helping it close? It could be the motors fried or the tracks are dirty as hell.

Kougeki · 11-28-2007, 09:21 PM

I thought they only came with a latch type thing.
I have the same yeah only hatch, and i've never seen one that's motorized.

kidcrossover69 · 11-28-2007, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

Have you tried to close it while actually helping it close? It could be the motors fried or the tracks are dirty as hell.

i clean up the tracks and the motor couldnt be fried man cause when i hit the switch to close it was clicking and yes i tried closing it at the same time just wont go so what you think? you think i should disassemble the whole damn thing?

kidcrossover69 · 11-28-2007, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kougeki

I thought they only came with a latch type thing.
I have the same yeah only hatch, and i've never seen one that's motorized.

yup i have the motorized one slides all the way back no latch.

koukimonster139 · 11-28-2007, 09:24 PM

somebody may have installed it

i dunno if they came with them or not

anyway

theres 2 types of sunroof actuation:

like a door window with a gear arm

or with a cable type

if its gear arm type, its plastic and the teeth are sheared off

if its cable type the cable is broken

koukimonster139 · 11-28-2007, 09:25 PM

well should've asked this first

is it moving at all?

kidcrossover69 · 11-28-2007, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koukimonster139

well should've asked this first

is it moving at all?

no it is not moving at all
even when i try to close it shut manually '
while im pressing the bottom
just a pain man and i need to close before
i go to bed cause it will just be parked outside.

koukimonster139 · 11-28-2007, 09:31 PM

hmm

maybe if you take off the plastic cover where the buttons are, there should be some sort of manual override?

check it meng

most power sunroofs have this feature

kidcrossover69 · 11-28-2007, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koukimonster139

hmm

maybe if you take off the plastic cover where the buttons are, there should be some sort of manual override?

check it meng

most power sunroofs have this feature

i did take it off it is off because my headliner isnt on
but what do u mean by manual override?

koukimonster139 · 11-28-2007, 09:45 PM

like something you can put a screwdriver in or a allen key and turn it to close it manually

most cars with power sunroofs have them so that if your battery goes dead or some shit you can still close the sunroof

kidcrossover69 · 11-28-2007, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koukimonster139

like something you can put a screwdriver in or a allen key and turn it to close it manually

most cars with power sunroofs have them so that if your battery goes dead or some shit you can still close the sunroof

oh ok ill check it out.

kidcrossover69 · 11-28-2007, 10:10 PM

couldn't find it probably you can pinpoint it for me
on the pic?

koukimonster139 · 11-28-2007, 10:14 PM

kinda hard to tell from those pics

take one centered of the motor and round part, like the first pic..

kidcrossover69 · 11-28-2007, 10:27 PM

okay hope these are good

okterrific · 11-28-2007, 10:32 PM

btw, on s13's there were 2 style sunroofs...
the coupes got motorized automagic ones
hatches got the manual pop up ones.

back to the topic, i just checked the FSM, and they have no mention of a manual over ride, so ionno if there is one or not. They do have like 3 relays listed for it, maybe one is fried? have you tried just connecting a 12v power source directly to the motor? the only other idea i would have is to remove the motor, and then manually move the sunroof as there should be no resistance now ? good luck!

kidcrossover69 · 11-28-2007, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by okterrific

btw, on s13's there were 2 style sunroofs...
the coupes got motorized automagic ones
hatches got the manual pop up ones.

back to the topic, i just checked the FSM, and they have no mention of a manual over ride, so ionno if there is one or not. They do have like 3 relays listed for it, maybe one is fried? have you tried just connecting a 12v power source directly to the motor? the only other idea i would have is to remove the motor, and then manually move the sunroof as there should be no resistance now ? good luck!

oh damn alrighty so if i remove the
whole motor and diconnect it ill be able
to just pull it with no problem.

koukimonster139 · 11-28-2007, 10:38 PM

nono look at the rear of the motor where the shaft is

theres a gold nut on the end of it
should be able to manually close with that

okterrific · 11-28-2007, 10:39 PM

I think so, looks like it from the FSM. if you need me to send you it, send me a PM with your email addy, i will send the body section, its 1.75 megs.

koukimonster139 · 11-28-2007, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by okterrific

btw, on s13's there were 2 style sunroofs...
the coupes got motorized automagic ones
hatches got the manual pop up ones.

back to the topic, i just checked the FSM, and they have no mention of a manual over ride, so ionno if there is one or not. They do have like 3 relays listed for it, maybe one is fried? have you tried just connecting a 12v power source directly to the motor? the only other idea i would have is to remove the motor, and then manually move the sunroof as there should be no resistance now ? good luck!

hes got power the motor works

removing the motor doesnt remove the actuating device which would physically hold the sunroof in place

just ssssshush

kidcrossover69 · 11-28-2007, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koukimonster139

hes got power the motor works

removing the motor doesnt remove the actuating device which would physically hold the sunroof in place

just ssssshush

so what u think man

koukimonster139 · 11-28-2007, 10:42 PM

did you try what i said in post 19?

if that doesnt work then just start pulling shit apart lol

kidcrossover69 · 11-28-2007, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koukimonster139

did you try what i said in post 19?

if that doesnt work then just start pulling shit apart lol

ahahahahah u neva told me where on the pic though

koukimonster139 · 11-28-2007, 10:46 PM

yea my photobucket is being a whore and not working hold on

okterrific · 11-28-2007, 10:46 PM

well, considering you didn't even know s13s came with motorized sunroofs...

anyways, I figure if you remove the motor, then the resistance to push it back in place should be relieved (if it is the motor getting it stuck). however, looking at the wiring diagram for it, it could be the LIMIT SWITCH (SAFETY) that is malfunctioning, or one of the 3 relays (open, close, safety).

koukimonster139 · 11-28-2007, 10:48 PM

koukimonster139 · 11-28-2007, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by okterrific

well, considering you didn't even know s13s came with motorized sunroofs...

anyways, I figure if you remove the motor, then the resistance to push it back in place should be relieved (if it is the motor getting it stuck). however, looking at the wiring diagram for it, it could be the LIMIT SWITCH (SAFETY) that is malfunctioning, or one of the 3 relays (open, close, safety).

dude jesus christ

ITS SOMETHING MECHANICAL
its cable fucking operated pulling it out wont do shit

kidcrossover69 · 11-28-2007, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koukimonster139

dude jesus christ

ITS SOMETHING MECHANICAL
its cable fucking operated pulling it out wont do shit

tried it nothing man took the them nut off
nothing happened tried to see if it would
close with the switch and even pulled it nothing. damn this sucks anymore
ideas.

koukimonster139 · 11-28-2007, 10:59 PM

damn. im out of ideas

without being there its hard to figure this type of stuff out

wait which way did you turn the nut?

just loosen or to the right first?

11-28-2007, 09:16 PM	#1
kidcrossover69 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: socal Posts: 331 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Sunroof stuck like the title says i need help with my sunroof. I checked the fuse, relay and motor. All working properly but it still wont close shut. I have no clue its for a 1991 240sx coupe help me out here any ideas.

11-28-2007, 09:18 PM	#3
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Have you tried to close it while actually helping it close? It could be the motors fried or the tracks are dirty as hell. __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

11-28-2007, 09:21 PM	#4
Kougeki Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Santa Ana, CA Age: 34 Posts: 593 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I thought they only came with a latch type thing. I have the same yeah only hatch, and i've never seen one that's motorized. __________________ *Gamertag:XxChumbawumbaxX*

11-28-2007, 09:24 PM	#7
koukimonster139 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Birmingham, AL Age: 34 Posts: 1,379 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	somebody may have installed it i dunno if they came with them or not anyway theres 2 types of sunroof actuation: like a door window with a gear arm or with a cable type if its gear arm type, its plastic and the teeth are sheared off if its cable type the cable is broken __________________ ho ha ho chi chi

11-28-2007, 09:25 PM	#8
koukimonster139 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Birmingham, AL Age: 34 Posts: 1,379 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well should've asked this first is it moving at all? __________________ ho ha ho chi chi

11-28-2007, 09:18 PM	#2
240sx_LE Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 140 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	they had motorized sunroofs? wow, didnt know that.. cool.

11-28-2007, 09:31 PM	#10
koukimonster139 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Birmingham, AL Age: 34 Posts: 1,379 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hmm maybe if you take off the plastic cover where the buttons are, there should be some sort of manual override? check it meng most power sunroofs have this feature __________________ ho ha ho chi chi

11-28-2007, 09:45 PM	#12
koukimonster139 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Birmingham, AL Age: 34 Posts: 1,379 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	like something you can put a screwdriver in or a allen key and turn it to close it manually most cars with power sunroofs have them so that if your battery goes dead or some shit you can still close the sunroof __________________ ho ha ho chi chi

11-28-2007, 10:10 PM	#14
kidcrossover69 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: socal Posts: 331 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	couldn't find it probably you can pinpoint it for me on the pic?

11-28-2007, 10:14 PM	#15
koukimonster139 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Birmingham, AL Age: 34 Posts: 1,379 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	kinda hard to tell from those pics take one centered of the motor and round part, like the first pic.. __________________ ho ha ho chi chi

11-28-2007, 10:27 PM	#16
kidcrossover69 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: socal Posts: 331 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	okay hope these are good

11-28-2007, 10:32 PM	#17
okterrific Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: boston Posts: 28 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	btw, on s13's there were 2 style sunroofs... the coupes got motorized automagic ones hatches got the manual pop up ones. back to the topic, i just checked the FSM, and they have no mention of a manual over ride, so ionno if there is one or not. They do have like 3 relays listed for it, maybe one is fried? have you tried just connecting a 12v power source directly to the motor? the only other idea i would have is to remove the motor, and then manually move the sunroof as there should be no resistance now ? good luck!

11-28-2007, 10:38 PM	#19
koukimonster139 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Birmingham, AL Age: 34 Posts: 1,379 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	nono look at the rear of the motor where the shaft is theres a gold nut on the end of it should be able to manually close with that __________________ ho ha ho chi chi

11-28-2007, 10:39 PM	#20
okterrific Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: boston Posts: 28 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think so, looks like it from the FSM. if you need me to send you it, send me a PM with your email addy, i will send the body section, its 1.75 megs.

11-28-2007, 10:42 PM	#23
koukimonster139 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Birmingham, AL Age: 34 Posts: 1,379 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	did you try what i said in post 19? if that doesnt work then just start pulling shit apart lol __________________ ho ha ho chi chi

11-28-2007, 10:46 PM	#25
koukimonster139 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Birmingham, AL Age: 34 Posts: 1,379 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yea my photobucket is being a whore and not working hold on __________________ ho ha ho chi chi

11-28-2007, 10:48 PM	#27
koukimonster139 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Birmingham, AL Age: 34 Posts: 1,379 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	__________________ ho ha ho chi chi

11-28-2007, 10:59 PM	#30
koukimonster139 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Birmingham, AL Age: 34 Posts: 1,379 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	damn. im out of ideas without being there its hard to figure this type of stuff out wait which way did you turn the nut? just loosen or to the right first? __________________ ho ha ho chi chi

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