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twofortyrida1388 · 06-05-2007, 01:52 PM

oh ok I understand. Standalone is the shit if you can tune it or have the cash flow to buy it and get someone else to tune it for you.

drift freaq · 06-06-2007, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by twofortyrida1388

oh ok I understand. Standalone is the shit if you can tune it or have the cash flow to buy it and get someone else to tune it for you.

Standalone is the shit for any engine setup. Problem is its completely not smog legal worthy. I don't know about the rest of you guys but the whole point of the VQ exercise(for me) is to run a light High HP engine thats perfectly legal. You start sticking standalone setups on it, putting on aftermarket stuff etc..., just to make it simpler to get it running and you defeat the purpose. You might as well just toss in a S14 or S15 SR or a RB at that point.

irax · 06-06-2007, 11:28 AM

if there is a standalone that hooks up to the obd2 scanner or consult2 that would be worth it.

axiomatik · 06-06-2007, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ryan hagen

i have a pic, how do i post it, i havent posted a pic in a couple years

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Originally Posted by twofortyrida1388

I can't do it right either.

a bit late, but since I just posted this info in 2 other threads, why not.

Host your pic on a 3rd party site such as photobucket or imageshack and then copy the link into your message using [img] tags.

Example:
[IMG]The URL of your pic goes here[/IMG]

UfoZ8myCow · 06-06-2007, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by drift freaq

Standalone is the shit for any engine setup. Problem is its completely not smog legal worthy. I don't know about the rest of you guys but the whole point of the VQ exercise(for me) is to run a light High HP engine thats perfectly legal. You start sticking standalone setups on it, putting on aftermarket stuff etc..., just to make it simpler to get it running and you defeat the purpose. You might as well just toss in a S14 or S15 SR or a RB at that point.

Exaaaaactly... That is the main reason Im interested in doing a VQ swap. Street legality is the name of the game. Otherwise why bother with the uncharted territory? Just throw in your tried and true SR or RB and be done with it.

Im pretty much just waiting on you guys that are being the guinea pigs to get your cars going before I jump in with mine. Props to you guys for doing something new and different!

NiZMo1o1 · 06-06-2007, 10:03 PM

Here is a link to our Local forum , Local guy that was a Ex- KA-T that was already do low E.T.s deicde to go VQ35

http://www.floridastreetscene.com/fo...ad.php?t=13180

Its almost finsh as hes working on it.. Custom intake manifold , Twin Turbo....

Im debating on doing a VQ in a s13coupe or s13vert...

But im also keeping my s14

Emp123 · 06-06-2007, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by UfoZ8myCow

Exaaaaactly... That is the main reason Im interested in doing a VQ swap. Street legality is the name of the game. Otherwise why bother with the uncharted territory? Just throw in your tried and true SR or RB and be done with it.

Im pretty much just waiting on you guys that are being the guinea pigs to get your cars going before I jump in with mine. Props to you guys for doing something new and different!

Go guinea pigs, go!

twofortyrida1388 · 06-09-2007, 06:46 PM

I can't wait to eventually do this thing.

twofortyrida1388 · 06-21-2007, 10:42 AM

How much do you think it would cost to pay someone to wire it up. Putting the motor and tranny in wont be too difficult w/ those custom linkages and mounts but the wiring looks like a nightmare.

twofortyrida1388 · 06-27-2007, 11:35 AM

On a scale 1-10 and dropping a Ferrari 6.0L V12 in an s13 is a 10 and putting the same exact ka back in is a 1; what would the vq30de fair against a vq35de. If the vq35de requires special dealer tools to get running than fuck it. A stand alone can run what $1000-$2000 no freaking way. I'd rather put a vq30 in and put a small turbo on it and some springs/bc cams and call it a day. Something making enough boost for a hacked maf. Actually how much power do you think a stock vq30 can support (I know a walbro 255 is already necessary for swap), injectors, maf, rail, or what. The ka gives out stock at what 220?

irax · 06-27-2007, 11:37 AM

no, a good KA will give out around 300 w/o fuel pump

VQ30DE-T is good for power on a good build considering they come stock turbo on the cefiro?

steve shadows · 06-27-2007, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by twofortyrida1388

That would be a fucking insane N/A street car. What about the QR25DE? Is there a RWD tranny that can be put on it?

No, but you can always fab something, also the coolant jacket/ports would be positioned into the firewall so you would have to run a line all the way aroudn to the front for radiator.

The stock ring lands are horrible for turbo applications.

The overall motor is not the best suitable from engineering standpoint for turbo, less so than the KA.

irax · 06-27-2007, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by steve shadows

No, but you can always fab something, also the coolant jacket/ports would be positioned into the firewall so you would have to run a line all the way aroudn to the front for radiator.

The stock ring lands are horrible for turbo applications.

The overall motor is not the best suitable from engineering standpoint for turbo, less so than the KA.

your an idiot there is a rwd QR25DE transmission, and if your going to do a rwd QR25DE swap use engine and trans from frontier

Emp123 · 06-27-2007, 07:22 PM

Why bother with the QR25DE? Minimal power gain, and the engine has had a few serious issues in its short lifetime, just doesn't make sense to me.

UfoZ8myCow · 06-27-2007, 07:45 PM

Somehow a Sentra powered 240 just doesnt strike as much fear into my heart as a VQ35 powered 240. :lol:

irax · 06-27-2007, 08:58 PM

a qr25de was originally going to be my swap but, since i was able to get the vq n everything allot sooner im going with that.

seriously the QR25DE is not that bad of an engine once you remove the ballance shafts. Easy 200ish wheel horse power without opening the engine at all.

twofortyrida1388 · 06-27-2007, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by irax

no, a good KA will give out around 300 w/o fuel pump

VQ30DE-T is good for power on a good build considering they come stock turbo on the cefiro?

With the ka I ment injectors and everything. It can really support that muchin stock form and just turboing it? What do you thing the vq30 is capable of stock with turbo?

irax · 06-27-2007, 11:33 PM

yeah its a good idea to change injectors unless you want to spend alot of time tuning the turbo setup so its just undermax output. seriously it is a safe thing to say that you should not make hp more than the injector size for the most part. that is just what i heard. I think the VQ30 is capeable with good tune on stock bottem end somewhere around 400

twofortyrida1388 · 06-28-2007, 12:33 AM

400 is way way plenty. In stock form with minor mods what does the vq30 produce? So for a VQ30 to be used I will need the engine, obvious senors, Z33 6MT, Z33 oil pan, harness, ecu, custum shifter linkage, custom or rb25 mounts, custom headers/exhaust, and a profound knowledge of wiring. Oh and can the maxima gauge cluster and dash harness be used If I got it from same car the engine came from?

irax · 06-28-2007, 01:10 AM

VQ30DE engine, Z33 trans & oil pan, custom shifter linakge or just got a hole in the trans tunnel. custom mounts. z33 headers. FSM and coloured wiring diagrams. Maxima gauge cluster would be nice but not needed at all.

twofortyrida1388 · 06-28-2007, 02:02 AM

Would the cluster make it easier instead of tracing each wire to each gauge in the cluster. What about the speed signal?

twofortyrida1388 · 06-28-2007, 02:30 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1999-...QQcmdZViewItem

Looks like it would almost fit if not perfect. I'm having a time trying to find some non jwt cams and springs for the vq30. Oh jwt wants 1100 DOLLARS for just the cams!!!!!! WTF!!!

tuner777 · 09-14-2007, 12:55 PM

i was wondering if VQ35HR would be a street legal setup in CA.. i have '97 240sx.. i love the engine.. and i hate the KA.. puttin SR in california means u gotta get a trailer and a truck to tow it.. cops are hella crackin down on that kinda swap.. and u cant pass SMOG..

irax · 09-14-2007, 01:41 PM

SR HELLA SUCKS!

if you read any part of this thread you would know how to make the VQ35HR legal in your s14.

twofortyrida1388 · 09-14-2007, 01:54 PM

Yeah theres tons of info on this thing. I've went back throught this thing quite a few times.

06-05-2007, 01:52 PM	#151
twofortyrida1388 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wilmywood, NC Age: 32 Posts: 612 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	oh ok I understand. Standalone is the shit if you can tune it or have the cash flow to buy it and get someone else to tune it for you. __________________ Boost Coming soon...

06-06-2007, 11:28 AM	#153
irax Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego Age: 37 Posts: 4,248 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	if there is a standalone that hooks up to the obd2 scanner or consult2 that would be worth it. __________________ Drives a BRZ and is building a V6 S12 coupe.

06-06-2007, 10:03 PM	#156
NiZMo1o1 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Florida ! Age: 43 Posts: 474 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Here is a link to our Local forum , Local guy that was a Ex- KA-T that was already do low E.T.s deicde to go VQ35 http://www.floridastreetscene.com/fo...ad.php?t=13180 Its almost finsh as hes working on it.. Custom intake manifold , Twin Turbo.... Im debating on doing a VQ in a s13coupe or s13vert... But im also keeping my s14 __________________ emeraldperformance.com

06-09-2007, 06:46 PM	#158
twofortyrida1388 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wilmywood, NC Age: 32 Posts: 612 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I can't wait to eventually do this thing. __________________ Boost Coming soon...

06-21-2007, 10:42 AM	#159
twofortyrida1388 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wilmywood, NC Age: 32 Posts: 612 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	How much do you think it would cost to pay someone to wire it up. Putting the motor and tranny in wont be too difficult w/ those custom linkages and mounts but the wiring looks like a nightmare. __________________ Boost Coming soon...

06-27-2007, 11:35 AM	#160
twofortyrida1388 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wilmywood, NC Age: 32 Posts: 612 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	On a scale 1-10 and dropping a Ferrari 6.0L V12 in an s13 is a 10 and putting the same exact ka back in is a 1; what would the vq30de fair against a vq35de. If the vq35de requires special dealer tools to get running than fuck it. A stand alone can run what $1000-$2000 no freaking way. I'd rather put a vq30 in and put a small turbo on it and some springs/bc cams and call it a day. Something making enough boost for a hacked maf. Actually how much power do you think a stock vq30 can support (I know a walbro 255 is already necessary for swap), injectors, maf, rail, or what. The ka gives out stock at what 220? __________________ Boost Coming soon...

06-27-2007, 11:37 AM	#161
irax Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego Age: 37 Posts: 4,248 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	no, a good KA will give out around 300 w/o fuel pump VQ30DE-T is good for power on a good build considering they come stock turbo on the cefiro? __________________ Drives a BRZ and is building a V6 S12 coupe.

06-27-2007, 07:22 PM	#164
Emp123 Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 54 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Why bother with the QR25DE? Minimal power gain, and the engine has had a few serious issues in its short lifetime, just doesn't make sense to me.

06-27-2007, 07:45 PM	#165
UfoZ8myCow Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Vegas Posts: 1,227 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Somehow a Sentra powered 240 just doesnt strike as much fear into my heart as a VQ35 powered 240. :lol: __________________

06-27-2007, 08:58 PM	#166
irax Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego Age: 37 Posts: 4,248 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	a qr25de was originally going to be my swap but, since i was able to get the vq n everything allot sooner im going with that. seriously the QR25DE is not that bad of an engine once you remove the ballance shafts. Easy 200ish wheel horse power without opening the engine at all. __________________ Drives a BRZ and is building a V6 S12 coupe.

06-27-2007, 11:33 PM	#168
irax Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego Age: 37 Posts: 4,248 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	yeah its a good idea to change injectors unless you want to spend alot of time tuning the turbo setup so its just undermax output. seriously it is a safe thing to say that you should not make hp more than the injector size for the most part. that is just what i heard. I think the VQ30 is capeable with good tune on stock bottem end somewhere around 400 __________________ Drives a BRZ and is building a V6 S12 coupe.

06-28-2007, 12:33 AM	#169
twofortyrida1388 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wilmywood, NC Age: 32 Posts: 612 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	400 is way way plenty. In stock form with minor mods what does the vq30 produce? So for a VQ30 to be used I will need the engine, obvious senors, Z33 6MT, Z33 oil pan, harness, ecu, custum shifter linkage, custom or rb25 mounts, custom headers/exhaust, and a profound knowledge of wiring. Oh and can the maxima gauge cluster and dash harness be used If I got it from same car the engine came from? __________________ Boost Coming soon...

06-28-2007, 01:10 AM	#170
irax Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego Age: 37 Posts: 4,248 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	VQ30DE engine, Z33 trans & oil pan, custom shifter linakge or just got a hole in the trans tunnel. custom mounts. z33 headers. FSM and coloured wiring diagrams. Maxima gauge cluster would be nice but not needed at all. __________________ Drives a BRZ and is building a V6 S12 coupe.

06-28-2007, 02:02 AM	#171
twofortyrida1388 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wilmywood, NC Age: 32 Posts: 612 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Would the cluster make it easier instead of tracing each wire to each gauge in the cluster. What about the speed signal? __________________ Boost Coming soon...

06-28-2007, 02:30 AM	#172
twofortyrida1388 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wilmywood, NC Age: 32 Posts: 612 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1999-...QQcmdZViewItem Looks like it would almost fit if not perfect. I'm having a time trying to find some non jwt cams and springs for the vq30. Oh jwt wants 1100 DOLLARS for just the cams!!!!!! WTF!!! __________________ Boost Coming soon... Last edited by twofortyrida1388; 06-28-2007 at 04:38 AM..

09-14-2007, 12:55 PM	#173
tuner777 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Antelope, CA Age: 33 Posts: 2 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i was wondering if VQ35HR would be a street legal setup in CA.. i have '97 240sx.. i love the engine.. and i hate the KA.. puttin SR in california means u gotta get a trailer and a truck to tow it.. cops are hella crackin down on that kinda swap.. and u cant pass SMOG..

09-14-2007, 01:41 PM	#174
irax Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego Age: 37 Posts: 4,248 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	SR HELLA SUCKS! if you read any part of this thread you would know how to make the VQ35HR legal in your s14. __________________ Drives a BRZ and is building a V6 S12 coupe.

09-14-2007, 01:54 PM	#175
twofortyrida1388 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wilmywood, NC Age: 32 Posts: 612 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah theres tons of info on this thing. I've went back throught this thing quite a few times. __________________ Boost Coming soon...

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