S13 momo hub install woes - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

i8yourfwd · 06-28-2005, 02:58 AM

Yeah yeah, I know your thinking, how could something so simple go wrong. Mine did. As soon as I try to tighten the hub to the center console, the horn goes.. and it just keeps going. I had nothing else connected to the hub at the time. Does this signify a faulty hub? How would such a simple piece be faulty. :[ Is there something I'm supposed to modify regarding the 3 pins in the center console?

holisticbeatz · 06-28-2005, 03:04 AM

I really doubt you have a faulty hub. I think you have a bad ground somewhere; so when you install your hub, it closes the circuit and sounds off your horn. I suggest removing the steering wheel column and looking for loose wires and anything else out of the ordinary.

i8yourfwd · 06-28-2005, 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by holisticbeatz

I really doubt you have a faulty hub. I think you have a bad ground somewhere; so when you install your hub, it closes the circuit and sounds off your horn. I suggest removing the steering wheel column and looking for loose wires and anything else out of the ordinary.

Something makes me think it's the hub, because when I wiggle the only wire on the hub, the horn will sound. Bah.. damn ebayness.. I'll try to put it in tomorrow. Also, My quick release has a red and black wire, the hub only has a black wire.. How would I wire it for my horn to work?

Actually come to think of it. My horn doesn't work with my stock wheel on. Wow, what a pain this will be. I don't know what to check for in the center console. But, could it be the horn relay? I'll go pick up a new one and see if that makes my horn on the stock wheel work.

wutangben · 06-28-2005, 07:47 AM

I need to figure out how to get my horn to work too... How much did you pay for your Momo hub? I can get them for about $45 if you're planning on getting another one....

Ben

SirWarrior · 06-28-2005, 10:14 AM

the 2 wire one is using a positive (12v) as signal to the horn.
the 1 wire one is using the ground to close the loop.

Its not THAT complicated.

i8yourfwd · 06-28-2005, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirWarrior

the 2 wire one is using a positive (12v) as signal to the horn.
the 1 wire one is using the ground to close the loop.

Its not THAT complicated.

So to wire a working horn.. the ground get's connected to the ground on my wheel.. Then the positive from my horn goes to.. the metal part of the hub?
:|

Yoshi · 06-28-2005, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i8yourfwd

So to wire a working horn.. the ground get's connected to the ground on my wheel.. Then the positive from my horn goes to.. the metal part of the hub?
:|

u sure u got the right hub? IIRC, there are 2 or 3 that will fit, the difference being hte ring spacers on teh back (see the 3 pins on the back of your steering mount?). Some 240s had CC, some did not, it changes the contact points for those pins depending on which hub u got. I have an LE with the CC, meaning the 3 pins on the mount, the hub only touches one of them, the horn, and it's just a ground loop. Horn button closed (on), loop closed, button off, loop open (no horn), simple.

SirWarrior · 06-28-2005, 01:00 PM

OMG you guys are making this too complicated.
Its a circut, with a switch.
1 wire - Switch is on the ground side
2 wire - Switch is on the +12v side.
ITS SIMPLE!!!!!!!!

If you have problems hooking up something this simple, got to BestBuy and ask the 16yr old guy in the install bay to show you how to do it.

P.S.
If you still can't figure out, buy a test light. they are under 10bucks for a pretty good one. Or get a Fluke DMM

i8yourfwd · 06-29-2005, 02:41 AM

Even on the momo site it says there's only one hub for the S13.. But anyways.. I just took off the horn fuse and put it on so my horn doesn't go crazy again.

Nan Desu Ka?! · 06-29-2005, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by wutangben

I need to figure out how to get my horn to work too... How much did you pay for your Momo hub? I can get them for about $45 if you're planning on getting another one....

Ben

LOL, now you tell me! after i spend $59.50 on mine so i can get my tenzo wheel on... doh!

o well, gotta pay for good parts i suppose. besides, a wheel hub is the last place you want o skimp on becuase ur a cheap fucker like me. countersteering+wheel pops off = wrecked car + suicidle driver :P

wutangben · 06-29-2005, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirWarrior

OMG you guys are making this too complicated.
Its a circut, with a switch.
1 wire - Switch is on the ground side
2 wire - Switch is on the +12v side.
ITS SIMPLE!!!!!!!!

If you have problems hooking up something this simple, got to BestBuy and ask the 16yr old guy in the install bay to show you how to do it.

P.S.
If you still can't figure out, buy a test light. they are under 10bucks for a pretty good one. Or get a Fluke DMM

come hook mine up if it's so easy, i'll be home all night after work (5pm and on) :P

SirWarrior · 06-29-2005, 10:21 AM

stop by my house, Im doing the 5lug on the rear.

Yoshi · 06-29-2005, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i8yourfwd

Even on the momo site it says there's only one hub for the S13.. But anyways.. I just took off the horn fuse and put it on so my horn doesn't go crazy again.

no, u misunderstood.
I said there's several that will FIT. if u got it off ebay or somewhere, you may not have what u think you have. My friend was running a hub for another nissan (I forget which) for over a year before he realized it was the wrong one. Just cuz it sez S13 on the box, doesn't necessarily mean that's what's in it. My friend experienced just that, dunno if it was the seller, or a boxing error at the manufacturing plant or a mislabel or what. But he DID order a S13 hub, and it said that on the box, but that wasn't what was inside.

SirWarrior · 06-29-2005, 12:37 PM

z32 ones fit, possibly some maxima ones.....
Been a while.

i8yourfwd · 06-29-2005, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshi

no, u misunderstood.
I said there's several that will FIT. if u got it off ebay or somewhere, you may not have what u think you have. My friend was running a hub for another nissan (I forget which) for over a year before he realized it was the wrong one. Just cuz it sez S13 on the box, doesn't necessarily mean that's what's in it. My friend experienced just that, dunno if it was the seller, or a boxing error at the manufacturing plant or a mislabel or what. But he DID order a S13 hub, and it said that on the box, but that wasn't what was inside.

Ahh ok, I see what your saying. I'm sure I have the right one, the part number from the momo site matches the part number on the hub and on the hub's box.

wutangben · 06-30-2005, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirWarrior

stop by my house, Im doing the 5lug on the rear.

don't know where you live... is your swap done?

SirWarrior · 06-30-2005, 09:49 AM

SR is in, yep. But the brakes in the rear were making noise so I just finished the 5lug (rear) at 11PM.
I would take it for a spin, but still need to bleed the brakes and I got no plates on it yet

But if you want I can stop by after work and we can drive down to my house, it by gale street inn.

06-28-2005, 03:04 AM	#2
holisticbeatz Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2003 Location: CALIFORNIA Posts: 988 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I really doubt you have a faulty hub. I think you have a bad ground somewhere; so when you install your hub, it closes the circuit and sounds off your horn. I suggest removing the steering wheel column and looking for loose wires and anything else out of the ordinary. __________________ Trust and I don't mean GReddy.

06-28-2005, 10:14 AM	#5
SirWarrior Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2004 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 762 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the 2 wire one is using a positive (12v) as signal to the horn. the 1 wire one is using the ground to close the loop. Its not THAT complicated. __________________ 92 FastBack - Project 98 SE - Daily Driver

06-28-2005, 01:00 PM	#8
SirWarrior Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2004 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 762 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	OMG you guys are making this too complicated. Its a circut, with a switch. 1 wire - Switch is on the ground side 2 wire - Switch is on the +12v side. ITS SIMPLE!!!!!!!! If you have problems hooking up something this simple, got to BestBuy and ask the 16yr old guy in the install bay to show you how to do it. P.S. If you still can't figure out, buy a test light. they are under 10bucks for a pretty good one. Or get a Fluke DMM __________________ 92 FastBack - Project 98 SE - Daily Driver

06-29-2005, 10:21 AM	#12
SirWarrior Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2004 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 762 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	stop by my house, Im doing the 5lug on the rear. __________________ 92 FastBack - Project 98 SE - Daily Driver

06-29-2005, 12:37 PM	#14
SirWarrior Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2004 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 762 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	z32 ones fit, possibly some maxima ones..... Been a while. __________________ 92 FastBack - Project 98 SE - Daily Driver

06-28-2005, 07:47 AM	#4
wutangben Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: IL Age: 40 Posts: 739 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I need to figure out how to get my horn to work too... How much did you pay for your Momo hub? I can get them for about $45 if you're planning on getting another one.... Ben

06-30-2005, 09:49 AM	#17
SirWarrior Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2004 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 762 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	SR is in, yep. But the brakes in the rear were making noise so I just finished the 5lug (rear) at 11PM. I would take it for a spin, but still need to bleed the brakes and I got no plates on it yet But if you want I can stop by after work and we can drive down to my house, it by gale street inn. __________________ 92 FastBack - Project 98 SE - Daily Driver

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