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05subysti · 11-06-2013, 12:25 PM

500whp in an s chassis is plenty.

is there anyone running a borgwarner s366/s400? also act xtreme heavy duty 6 puck?

zero lift how would you review the competition stage 5 clutch, and what flywheel are you using?

Zerolift Autolab · 11-06-2013, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 05subysti

500whp in an s chassis is plenty.

is there anyone running a borgwarner s366/s400? also act xtreme heavy duty 6 puck?

zero lift how would you review the competition stage 5 clutch, and what flywheel are you using?

We are using the Comp Steel Flywheel
the Stage 5 has held up great over the season.
it is not very street friendly using a rigid disc but has performed
pretty well at the track and withstood a good amount of abuse.

BiG MiKE86 · 11-06-2013, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zerolift Autolab

The lines are going to a custom catch can that we fabricated
There are Bulkhead fittings welded to the can that stick thru the firewall heater core
inlet / outlet holes.
The catch can is baffled and externally vented in the engine bay.

* What photos are you interested in seeing?

Sweet any random photos of this setup would be cool nothing specific

Selling these catch cans?

Chronicle · 11-06-2013, 01:47 PM

Question for anyone with experience with the 2JZ VVT-i setups. Is there really no work-around to get past the ECU's immobilizer (if it was installed with one)? Will I have to source an older ECU for the engine? I'm going to pick up the engine (with everything else) on Saturday and this was just on my mind.

Zerolift Autolab · 11-06-2013, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chronicle

Question for anyone with experience with the 2JZ VVT-i setups. Is there really no work-around to get past the ECU's immobilizer (if it was installed with one)? Will I have to source an older ECU for the engine? I'm going to pick up the engine (with everything else) on Saturday and this was just on my mind.

There are 2 Different ECU's for the 2JZGTE VVTI motor sets.
The ones with the immobilizer will have an extra plug next to the primary harness plug.
The ones without the extra slot are the Non Immobilizer computers.

Chronicle · 11-06-2013, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zerolift Autolab

There are 2 Different ECU's for the 2JZGTE VVTI motor sets.
The ones with the immobilizer will have an extra plug next to the primary harness plug.
The ones without the extra slot are the Non Immobilizer computers.

I knew about the actual differences, but I'm about 95% sure the motorset I'm picking up is the newer ECU with the immobilizer. Am I just SOL for it? If I can avoid spending another $200 that would be great. It won't break my heart if I do though, considering I'm already getting a great deal on the engine.

Zerolift Autolab · 11-06-2013, 02:07 PM

Using the ECU that I mentioned without the immobilizer Ive had customers swap those motors into all sorts of vehicles.
93 Toyota Pickup / 98 Ford Ranger / 82 Celica Supra
Of course your biggest hurdle is the wiring conversion.

Chronicle · 11-06-2013, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zerolift Autolab

Using the ECU that I mentioned without the immobilizer Ive had customers swap those motors into all sorts of vehicles.
93 Toyota Pickup / 98 Ford Ranger / 82 Celica Supra
Of course your biggest hurdle is the wiring conversion.

I'm pretty set on having my harness sent to be converted once I get to that point. I don't want to mix any of that up.

AS240 · 11-06-2013, 02:24 PM

I read somewhere a while back that an experienced locksmith is able to fix/disable immobilizers in certain ecu's.

turbob16ef · 11-06-2013, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 05subysti

500whp in an s chassis is plenty.

is there anyone running a borgwarner s366/s400? also act xtreme heavy duty 6 puck?

zero lift how would you review the competition stage 5 clutch, and what flywheel are you using?

I plan on using the s366 with probly the billet 11 blade.
Starting off with the .91 divided.
Thread on sf, people were saying to go with the 1.xx housing.
Talked to the person I bought my v2 from; he had a .83 divided, and claims he was making boost by 3100.

AS240 · 11-06-2013, 07:07 PM

You guys should look into clutchmasters clutches. I've done tons of research looking for the best non-twin disc for a r154. I'll be running a FX500 on my setup;stock pedal feel but grabs hard when you need it to. There have been too many failures with competition/act/excedy/southbend for my liking. That's just my own opinion though. Do your own research. Don't just take one guy's opinion on it.

turbob16ef · 11-06-2013, 07:27 PM

Ill be using exedy twin. Ill see how it holds up to about 750ish. Or the trans. Lol.

91ka24 · 11-06-2013, 10:13 PM

Could someone please take a pic of the crank position sensor plugs for me ASAP. I depinned the plugs on that side of the motor when I went single and totally forgot about the crank sensor. I just need to know what the color of the 2 wires on the male side are

Chronicle · 11-07-2013, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AS240

I read somewhere a while back that an experienced locksmith is able to fix/disable immobilizers in certain ecu's.

You're probably right, but having a locksmith unlock the ECU would probably cost the about the same as buying a 97-00 VVT-i ECU off of ebay.

reynas14 · 11-07-2013, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 91ka24

Could someone please take a pic of the crank position sensor plugs for me ASAP. I depinned the plugs on that side of the motor when I went single and totally forgot about the crank sensor. I just need to know what the color of the 2 wires on the male side are

Hey man heres a pic as it come straight from the sensor than this wire that the plug in the pic is attached to. That plug goes into the harness. So this should be what you need right?

Also I got my stock harness off and have pics as well. Its for sale if anyone needs one. Got my gates goodies in too so ill be putting the gates h2o pump/tensioners/belt on very soon. Just need to find someone help me get that pesky crank bolt off. That things a bum man lol

The wires are red and white just in case you cant see the white very well. Took it off of my phone...

ATLspeed · 11-07-2013, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 05subysti

...also act xtreme heavy duty 6 puck?

It's not bad to me, granted I have daily driven on 4 puck unsprung before on my ka-t.
From my personal experience I wouldn't use an ACT clutch again. Reason I say this is because one of the dowels/rivets came loose on my pressure plate and wrecked havoc on my bellhousing and flywheel.

*A guy I met had the same thing happened to his, also a friend of mine had his clutch disk fuse/weld to the flywheel

turbob16ef · 11-07-2013, 08:31 PM

I've heard a lot of bad things from the act extreme. I've heard they can take the abuse, and if your lucky stay together and be fine.
Also heard that they are just to harsh. Such as atlspeed happening. and them pushing the crank, causing crank issues, or thrust washers fall out.

I was on edge of buying act extreme, just to many horror stories, true or not.
Heard lots of good thing with southbend, or even the stocker if your not shooting for more than 400ish.

xoxide · 11-07-2013, 09:31 PM

Selling this if anyone is interested make me an offer. Has drift motion capacitor fix installed.

turbob16ef · 11-07-2013, 09:46 PM

Just bought my polished Titan cam gears, and Titan billet tensioner. 350 shipped for both Bnib.
If anyone else wants a tensioner ($150shipped) I will send the link. Said he has a couple more.

93egallmotor · 11-08-2013, 09:46 AM

does anyone know if the 1jz swap requires a sway bar spacer as well? wasnt sure if that was 2j specific, thanks!

reynas14 · 11-08-2013, 10:32 AM

Hey what do yous guys think about installing a fuel cell? Looks like decent ones are like 160, and since im going to be running new an stainless lines anyways was wondering if i should just install this and not worry about working with the weirdly molded s14 i have now (stock).

My plans for the car right now is to go single right away and do about 500 horse. Than as i save more money up get around 700 on e85. Its going to be a car i can drive 3-4 times a week or like weekends and such. Thoughts?

Scratch that, dont want to tube it lol

turbob16ef · 11-08-2013, 12:55 PM

i think all 1/2j swaps require sway bar spacer or sikky sway. Unless your using the tech2 kit.

Whatever mounts you get im sure will specify or someone on hereknows if spacers or aftermarket sway is needed.

xoxide · 11-08-2013, 03:07 PM

^Thats not true...

I have ZeroLift mounts and my jz clears the stock sway bar fine... Its super close, but it clears.

boostedoxide · 11-08-2013, 03:46 PM

I know this is more of a supraforums topic but i was hoping someone else on here might have ran into a similar issue with a 240/2JZ swap.

Id like to do the aristo 2JZGTE VVTI swap into a 98-05 lexus GS300.

From what I've read the Aristo/GS300 are virtually the same chassis and swapping the 2JZGTE is almost a total plug and play job with little to no modifications.

As far as build plans go i would do a single turbo setup on mild boost to keep it a nice daily driver. Id like to keep the motor pretty much stock minus a single turbo setup, piggyback tune, fuel rail/injectors and a bigger intake manifold and throttle body to smoothly move more air. There are plenty of choices of choosing a 2JZ intake manifold but they all seem to require using a cable driven throttle body with no plugs for factory sensors, as opposed to the drive by wire style unit on the factory VVTI throttle body from the aristo.

Since this would be a daily driver, retaining as many options as possible is the goal (cruise control, traction control, etc) Or trying to keep the car as "factory" as it could be. .. with no check engine lights at the end!

So the problem i have run into is trying to change the factory 2JZ VVTI intake manifold to a large plenum style with intake runners AND keep the cruise control, traction control, drive by wire, etc.. AND.. the new manifold would have to still have to have clearance in the GS300 body (IE: clearing the driver side strut tower)

I have a fabricator that could probably weld the VVTI throttle body to a different manifold, but that would still leave me with a 75mm throttle body which in my opinion, is way to small for any kind of single turbo/2JZ application. But that would be considered a last resort method..

Im not totally sure about this, but from what I have read the only way to retain the traction control/cruise control systems in this swap is to use the factory throttle body assembly that the motor was made with.. I didnt know if that was true or not so i wanted to seek public opinion.

any help would be appreciated, thank you!

NOTE: when I say VVTI throttle body, i am referring to the one that has the (ETCS-I) plate on the top of the throttle body.

Black R · 11-08-2013, 04:45 PM

^ don't change IM or throttle body.

There are plenty of people making over 500whp on the oem IM and TB, so don't waste your time and $, when it could be better spent elsewhere - especially since you don't have lofty power goals.

Flicktitty · 11-08-2013, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbob16ef

i think all 1/2j swaps require sway bar spacer or sikky sway. Unless your using the tech2 kit.

Whatever mounts you get im sure will specify or someone on hereknows if spacers or aftermarket sway is needed.

Tec2 kit requires spacers.

turbob16ef · 11-08-2013, 05:51 PM

Thanks for the corrections. And clearing that up.
I was kind of under the impression that the tec2 would be able to retainer stock sway, specially sense they mod the subframe.

xoxide · 11-08-2013, 07:05 PM

So what is the "best" forum as far as classifieds go for 1/2j? There are a ton of supra forums, and none none with classifieds seemed all that active.

turbob16ef · 11-08-2013, 07:12 PM

Supra forums classifieds are that bad, I've seen/gotten pretty good deals on there.
Clublexus also, but they're kinda slack on the 2jz stuff. Sc300/400 fs thread I have also seen/gotten good deals.

Supramania to me kinda sucks, or at least can't figure it out. Lol.

reynas14 · 11-09-2013, 10:25 AM

Hey i forgot that i needed the water pump back housing when i got my gates kit. I have an aristo 2jzgte, you guys know if i can go to the junk yard and just pull a 2jzge water pump back housing off and use it on mine? Thanks

11-06-2013, 01:47 PM	#3034
Chronicle Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Maryland Age: 30 Posts: 97 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Question for anyone with experience with the 2JZ VVT-i setups. Is there really no work-around to get past the ECU's immobilizer (if it was installed with one)? Will I have to source an older ECU for the engine? I'm going to pick up the engine (with everything else) on Saturday and this was just on my mind. __________________ Daily: '99 Pontiac Trans Am. Projects: '96 S14, '87 Merkur XR4Ti

11-06-2013, 02:07 PM	#3037
Zerolift Autolab Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fairfield, OH 45014 Age: 38 Posts: 2,804 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Using the ECU that I mentioned without the immobilizer Ive had customers swap those motors into all sorts of vehicles. 93 Toyota Pickup / 98 Ford Ranger / 82 Celica Supra Of course your biggest hurdle is the wiring conversion. __________________ Contact: Phone - 513-874-2508 AIM - ZLR0bert Email - [email protected] Zerolift facebook - http://www.facebook.com/Zerolift

11-06-2013, 02:24 PM	#3039
AS240 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Austin, Tx Age: 31 Posts: 683 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	I read somewhere a while back that an experienced locksmith is able to fix/disable immobilizers in certain ecu's. __________________ '92 HB HX35 rb25 - sold '89 Coupe GTX35 VVT-I 2JZ - yeah buddy

11-06-2013, 07:07 PM	#3041
AS240 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Austin, Tx Age: 31 Posts: 683 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	You guys should look into clutchmasters clutches. I've done tons of research looking for the best non-twin disc for a r154. I'll be running a FX500 on my setup;stock pedal feel but grabs hard when you need it to. There have been too many failures with competition/act/excedy/southbend for my liking. That's just my own opinion though. Do your own research. Don't just take one guy's opinion on it. __________________ '92 HB HX35 rb25 - sold '89 Coupe GTX35 VVT-I 2JZ - yeah buddy

11-06-2013, 10:13 PM	#3043
91ka24 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Oklahoma city, ok Age: 32 Posts: 414 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	Could someone please take a pic of the crank position sensor plugs for me ASAP. I depinned the plugs on that side of the motor when I went single and totally forgot about the crank sensor. I just need to know what the color of the 2 wires on the male side are __________________ Follow me on Ig- Andydennington

11-06-2013, 12:25 PM	#3031
05subysti Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: TX Posts: 601 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	500whp in an s chassis is plenty. is there anyone running a borgwarner s366/s400? also act xtreme heavy duty 6 puck? zero lift how would you review the competition stage 5 clutch, and what flywheel are you using?

11-06-2013, 07:27 PM	#3042
turbob16ef Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: S. Carolina Age: 32 Posts: 457 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Ill be using exedy twin. Ill see how it holds up to about 750ish. Or the trans. Lol.

11-07-2013, 08:31 PM	#3047
turbob16ef Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: S. Carolina Age: 32 Posts: 457 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	I've heard a lot of bad things from the act extreme. I've heard they can take the abuse, and if your lucky stay together and be fine. Also heard that they are just to harsh. Such as atlspeed happening. and them pushing the crank, causing crank issues, or thrust washers fall out. I was on edge of buying act extreme, just to many horror stories, true or not. Heard lots of good thing with southbend, or even the stocker if your not shooting for more than 400ish.

11-07-2013, 09:31 PM	#3048
xoxide Post Whore! Join Date: May 2010 Location: Jacksonville Posts: 2,807 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	Selling this if anyone is interested make me an offer. Has drift motion capacitor fix installed.

11-07-2013, 09:46 PM	#3049
turbob16ef Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: S. Carolina Age: 32 Posts: 457 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Just bought my polished Titan cam gears, and Titan billet tensioner. 350 shipped for both Bnib. If anyone else wants a tensioner ($150shipped) I will send the link. Said he has a couple more.

11-08-2013, 09:46 AM	#3050
93egallmotor Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: MD Posts: 73 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	does anyone know if the 1jz swap requires a sway bar spacer as well? wasnt sure if that was 2j specific, thanks! __________________ Zenki s14 1 J Z- G T E

11-08-2013, 10:32 AM	#3051
reynas14 Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Columbus OH Age: 30 Posts: 53 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hey what do yous guys think about installing a fuel cell? Looks like decent ones are like 160, and since im going to be running new an stainless lines anyways was wondering if i should just install this and not worry about working with the weirdly molded s14 i have now (stock). My plans for the car right now is to go single right away and do about 500 horse. Than as i save more money up get around 700 on e85. Its going to be a car i can drive 3-4 times a week or like weekends and such. Thoughts? Scratch that, dont want to tube it lol __________________ Looking for good conditioned 2jzgte swap parts for 240sx s14!

11-08-2013, 12:55 PM	#3052
turbob16ef Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: S. Carolina Age: 32 Posts: 457 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	i think all 1/2j swaps require sway bar spacer or sikky sway. Unless your using the tech2 kit. Whatever mounts you get im sure will specify or someone on hereknows if spacers or aftermarket sway is needed.

11-08-2013, 03:07 PM	#3053
xoxide Post Whore! Join Date: May 2010 Location: Jacksonville Posts: 2,807 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	^Thats not true... I have ZeroLift mounts and my jz clears the stock sway bar fine... Its super close, but it clears.

11-08-2013, 03:46 PM	#3054
boostedoxide Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: North Georgia Posts: 161 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I know this is more of a supraforums topic but i was hoping someone else on here might have ran into a similar issue with a 240/2JZ swap. Id like to do the aristo 2JZGTE VVTI swap into a 98-05 lexus GS300. From what I've read the Aristo/GS300 are virtually the same chassis and swapping the 2JZGTE is almost a total plug and play job with little to no modifications. As far as build plans go i would do a single turbo setup on mild boost to keep it a nice daily driver. Id like to keep the motor pretty much stock minus a single turbo setup, piggyback tune, fuel rail/injectors and a bigger intake manifold and throttle body to smoothly move more air. There are plenty of choices of choosing a 2JZ intake manifold but they all seem to require using a cable driven throttle body with no plugs for factory sensors, as opposed to the drive by wire style unit on the factory VVTI throttle body from the aristo. Since this would be a daily driver, retaining as many options as possible is the goal (cruise control, traction control, etc) Or trying to keep the car as "factory" as it could be. .. with no check engine lights at the end! So the problem i have run into is trying to change the factory 2JZ VVTI intake manifold to a large plenum style with intake runners AND keep the cruise control, traction control, drive by wire, etc.. AND.. the new manifold would have to still have to have clearance in the GS300 body (IE: clearing the driver side strut tower) I have a fabricator that could probably weld the VVTI throttle body to a different manifold, but that would still leave me with a 75mm throttle body which in my opinion, is way to small for any kind of single turbo/2JZ application. But that would be considered a last resort method.. Im not totally sure about this, but from what I have read the only way to retain the traction control/cruise control systems in this swap is to use the factory throttle body assembly that the motor was made with.. I didnt know if that was true or not so i wanted to seek public opinion. any help would be appreciated, thank you! NOTE: when I say VVTI throttle body, i am referring to the one that has the (ETCS-I) plate on the top of the throttle body.

11-08-2013, 04:45 PM	#3055
Black R Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2009 Location: ATL Posts: 642 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^ don't change IM or throttle body. There are plenty of people making over 500whp on the oem IM and TB, so don't waste your time and $, when it could be better spent elsewhere - especially since you don't have lofty power goals. __________________ S13 XE coupe: Aristo GTE, R154, GT37, Defsport Wilwood kit, KTS coilovers

11-08-2013, 05:51 PM	#3057
turbob16ef Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: S. Carolina Age: 32 Posts: 457 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Thanks for the corrections. And clearing that up. I was kind of under the impression that the tec2 would be able to retainer stock sway, specially sense they mod the subframe.

11-08-2013, 07:05 PM	#3058
xoxide Post Whore! Join Date: May 2010 Location: Jacksonville Posts: 2,807 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	So what is the "best" forum as far as classifieds go for 1/2j? There are a ton of supra forums, and none none with classifieds seemed all that active.

11-08-2013, 07:12 PM	#3059
turbob16ef Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: S. Carolina Age: 32 Posts: 457 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Supra forums classifieds are that bad, I've seen/gotten pretty good deals on there. Clublexus also, but they're kinda slack on the 2jz stuff. Sc300/400 fs thread I have also seen/gotten good deals. Supramania to me kinda sucks, or at least can't figure it out. Lol.

11-09-2013, 10:25 AM	#3060
reynas14 Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Columbus OH Age: 30 Posts: 53 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hey i forgot that i needed the water pump back housing when i got my gates kit. I have an aristo 2jzgte, you guys know if i can go to the junk yard and just pull a 2jzge water pump back housing off and use it on mine? Thanks __________________ Looking for good conditioned 2jzgte swap parts for 240sx s14!

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