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Corbic · 09-22-2012, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by simmode1

^^^Lol... This guy. Been there. Done that. Not willing to conduct a search too far outside of my area as I am not gonna spend that kinda of $ and be rushed looking over an out of town vehicle and site unseen is out of the question.

An E46 M3 sure would be nice, but it's pricing starts really just barely beyond what I wanna spend anyway. I'm not trying to stretch my resources that thin. Something like an early 350Z, G35 coupe, Z4 or 330ci, won't be the fastest/most refined thing around but I'm pretty sure I'm be happier than I an with my current car plus my monthly note will be more manageable.

350Z really is just the newest, cheapest, most powerful, low maintanance car you can buy on a budget, IMO. Hard to turn that away. I mean... there's the S2000 too... but I want some torque.

If the styling doesn't put you to sleep.. These are just as cheap with more power potential.

Boxters and 996s are going for pennies anymore as well.

rb25_s13*CHUKI · 09-22-2012, 07:36 PM

The only newer japanese sports car worth getting is a EVO or STI, z cars are complete trash and so are any new toyota/scion/nissan. Other than the gtr from nissan which is out of the question for most people, American sports cars are tearing japanese sports cars a new asshole. European or american is where it's at right now

rb25_s13*CHUKI · 09-22-2012, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingbaby

used 07 Z will put a smile on your face

No it will not, It made me laugh and say I'm glad I didn't get one of these heaps

Corbic · 09-22-2012, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rb25_s13*CHUKI

The only newer japanese sports car worth getting is a EVO or STI, z cars are complete trash and so are any new toyota/scion/nissan. Other than the gtr from nissan which is out of the question for most people, American sports cars are tearing japanese sports cars a new asshole. European or american is where it's at right now

The Evo and STI both suck right now.

300hp... really? Is it still 199-fucking-4? Why would I spend $7-10,000 more for a STi when a WRX has the same engine and maybe even the same turbo anymore? Stupid ass blue seats and a 6spd?

GTR is even a joke. No manual, questionable styling and $90k. Fuck that, I'd get a 911 and say fuck performance or go all out on a Z06, ZR1, R8 ect.

For $30-35k I still can't get over the 5.0 Mustang. It's a monster. 400hp, fantastic suspension, great interior, excellent blend of retro-new styling (much like the 350Z) and its even "decent-weight" for a Modern car.

Corbic · 09-22-2012, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rb25_s13*CHUKI

No it will not, It made me laugh and say I'm glad I didn't get one of these heaps

I can only imagine what shit-box you drive then..

simmode1 · 09-23-2012, 11:25 AM

Thanks for the recommendations, Corbic. I've previously examined them all. The GTO is priced about the same as the E46 M3, which is to say: a little more than I want to pay. But the GTO is an even more rare car.

For the money that I want to spend, early 350Z's are going to be my best bet, but other fun yet less power manual optioned competitiors include:
BWM 330ci
BWM Z4 3.0i
Lexus IS300 manual
Mazdaspeed Miata
S2000
2nd gen WRX

None are out and out powerful, but all are fun in their own right and can be found for under $12k whch would be a comfy note for me. But I still think I'd be happiest with an early 350Z running 4.08 final drive and the typical N/A power adders for the money.

rb25_s13*CHUKI · 09-23-2012, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Corbic

I can only imagine what shit-box you drive then..

well besides a 08 gmc yukon and besided my old 450awhp Evo 8 and other countless Rx7's and 240's and my 2002 toyota tacoma with 20k miles yea. I don't like 350z and I never will they never did a single thing to impress me at all, Just because I don't like a weak ass slow ass heavy piece of shit car doesn't mean I drive a piece of shit. Z's have done nothing to impress me ever

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Originally Posted by Corbic

The Evo and STI both suck right now.

300hp... really? Is it still 199-fucking-4? Why would I spend $7-10,000 more for a STi when a WRX has the same engine and maybe even the same turbo anymore? Stupid ass blue seats and a 6spd?

GTR is even a joke. No manual, questionable styling and $90k. Fuck that, I'd get a 911 and say fuck performance or go all out on a Z06, ZR1, R8 ect.

For $30-35k I still can't get over the 5.0 Mustang. It's a monster. 400hp, fantastic suspension, great interior, excellent blend of retro-new styling (much like the 350Z) and its even "decent-weight" for a Modern car.

I said newer STI and EVO meaning 03-08 Sti 04-08. I didn't say NEW EVO and STI the new ones aren't great. I said sti because we are talking about factory cars here of course It's smarter to get a Wrx pound for pound it's the better car.

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Originally Posted by simmode1

Thanks for the recommendations, Corbic. I've previously examined them all. The GTO is priced about the same as the E46 M3, which is to say: a little more than I want to pay. But the GTO is an even more rare car.

For the money that I want to spend, early 350Z's are going to be my best bet, but other fun yet less power manual optioned competitiors include:
BWM 330ci
BWM Z4 3.0i
Lexus IS300 manual
Mazdaspeed Miata
S2000
2nd gen WRX

None are out and out powerful, but all are fun in their own right and can be found for under $12k whch would be a comfy note for me. But I still think I'd be happiest with an early 350Z running 4.08 final drive and the typical N/A power adders for the money.

My friend had a 350z and he put in the 4.08 final gear and it made a big difference! We were still able to hit 160 and the acceleration was great! his car had, jwt clutch and flywheel,injen intake,plenum spacer,jasma exhaust, uprev chip. with those mods It was still nothing to be happy about, It barley would be Hr 350z and one of my basic ass sr20 swap 240's smashed it.

Once he put in the 4.08 gears it was a whole new car, It still didn't give me that wow factor but if you do get a z the gear swap is the best idea in thw world

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Originally Posted by Corbic

The Evo and STI both suck right now.

300hp... really? Is it still 199-fucking-4? Why would I spend $7-10,000 more for a STi when a WRX has the same engine and maybe even the same turbo anymore? Stupid ass blue seats and a 6spd?

GTR is even a joke. No manual, questionable styling and $90k. Fuck that, I'd get a 911 and say fuck performance or go all out on a Z06, ZR1, R8 ect.

For $30-35k I still can't get over the 5.0 Mustang. It's a monster. 400hp, fantastic suspension, great interior, excellent blend of retro-new styling (much like the 350Z) and its even "decent-weight" for a Modern car.

Yes you are right the GTR is a joke I was just trying to give Newer japanese sports cars some chance at greatness haha. I'd rock a Z06 all day long over a GTR, the new 5.0 are cool my friend has one and It's quick but he said he wishes he never sold his M3 and got the 5.0.

simmode1 · 09-23-2012, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rb25_s13*CHUKI

Once he put in the 4.08 gears it was a whole new car, It still didn't give me that wow factor but if you do get a z the gear swap is the best idea in thw world

Yeah, it won't be the fastest thing around but it'll still be plenty enough to get sideways and have some fun while driving to work and back. Plus I really want the sound of longtube headers on the VQ. I could do the same thing on a G35 coupe, but I really wanna own a legit 2 seater before I start having some kids.

I really doubt I'd ever do any FI on it. By the time I get bored with it, hopefully I'd be able to find me a 2013+ Gen Coupe 2.0T lease return or some turbo Beemer that I can afford.

rb25_s13*CHUKI · 09-23-2012, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by simmode1

Yeah, it won't be the fastest thing around but it'll still be plenty enough to get sideways and have some fun while driving to work and back. Plus I really want the sound of longtube headers on the VQ. I could do the same thing on a G35 coupe, but I really wanna own a legit 2 seater before I start having some kids.

I really doubt I'd ever do any FI on it. By the time I get bored with it, hopefully I'd be able to find me a 2013+ Gen Coupe 2.0T lease return or some turbo Beemer that I can afford.

Yea true i still did have fun in it for what it was, You'll like it esp with those gears!

LoneStarSilvia · 09-23-2012, 04:56 PM

Hmmm, 0-60 in under 3 seconds doesn't seem like much a joke to me, but whatever.....can we get back on FRZBRZ topic and not e-penis measuring contest?

I suck at finding videos I've seen before. I'm looking for that one where the guy who co-developed the FT86 is driving it and talking about some of the design insight.

rb25_s13*CHUKI · 09-23-2012, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarSilvia

Hmmm, 0-60 in under 3 seconds doesn't seem like much a joke to me, but whatever.....can we get back on FRZBRZ topic and not e-penis measuring contest?

I suck at finding videos I've seen before. I'm looking for that one where the guy who co-developed the FT86 is driving it and talking about some of the design insight.

I'm saying it's a joke because a true sports car doesn't have a flappy paddle gear box and a true sports car doesn't drive it self. Well That's how all new cars are so all new ones are a joke

rb25_s13*CHUKI · 09-23-2012, 05:16 PM

On the brz subject why didn't this thing get a turbo charger?

simmode1 · 09-23-2012, 05:27 PM

^^^Probaby because the original 86 wasn't a turbo'd. The FRS/BRZ is that car's spiritual successor, lets not forget.

*exitspeed* · 09-23-2012, 06:14 PM

Sorry. I've lost interest in this thread. Calling the GTR a joke is just about as ignorant or closed minded as you get in my book. I don't care if the culprit is a "nissan enthusiast".

raz0rbladez909 · 09-23-2012, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

Sorry. I've lost interest in this thread. Calling the GTR a joke is just about as ignorant or closed minded as you get in my book. I don't care if the culprit is a "nissan enthusiast".

Shit like that is why I hardly come around here anymore. A 90k car that destroys cars double and triple it's price is a joke?! Get the fuck out of here. Just because you can't afford something doesn't make it any less of an awesome car. And real sports cars don't have paddle shifters?? WTF

LoneStarSilvia · 09-23-2012, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rb25_s13*CHUKI

I'm saying it's a joke because a true sports car doesn't have a flappy paddle gear box and a true sports car doesn't drive it self. Well That's how all new cars are so all new ones are a joke

Pretty sure it stills destroys a lot of your "true" sports cars.

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Originally Posted by rb25_s13*CHUKI

On the brz subject why didn't this thing get a turbo charger?

To keep production costs down. That's why I'm trying to find that interview video with the co-developer. He talks about some decision such as staying N/A and why they used a Torsen diff instead of electric.

rb25_s13*CHUKI · 09-24-2012, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by raz0rbladez909

Shit like that is why I hardly come around here anymore. A 90k car that destroys cars double and triple it's price is a joke?! Get the fuck out of here. Just because you can't afford something doesn't make it any less of an awesome car. And real sports cars don't have paddle shifters?? WTF

You barley come around anymore because some people like the gtr and some don't? I think any car with paddle shifters are a joke, i don't care if the car can go from new york to california in 1 day i still won't like it. I never said the car is worthless or it's a piece of shit or people shouldn't buy them, i just said that's why i think it's a joke.

You give the typical gtr fanboy response also, oh it kills cars that cost more blah blah blah. What cars don't? Get a evo drop cash into and boom done kills a whole lot of shit that cost more than it does. Get a fucking civic drop cash boom kills a whole lot of shit, the gtr didn't do anything new besides bring the japanese sports cars back to life.

Peoples first response to someone not liking a car is because they can't afford it, no that's not the case

rb25_s13*CHUKI · 09-24-2012, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

Sorry. I've lost interest in this thread. Calling the GTR a joke is just about as ignorant or closed minded as you get in my book. I don't care if the culprit is a "nissan enthusiast".

Not viewing other peoples opinions and saying what they think is wrong is actually the close minded thing to say. You think the gtr is amazingly amazing and i think the gtr is cool besides the paddle shifters which makes it a joke for me.

raz0rbladez909 · 09-24-2012, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by rb25_s13*CHUKI

You barley come around anymore because some people like the gtr and some don't? I think any car with paddle shifters are a joke, i don't care if the car can go from new york to california in 1 day i still won't like it. I never said the car is worthless or it's a piece of shit or people shouldn't buy them, i just said that's why i think it's a joke.

You give the typical gtr fanboy response also, oh it kills cars that cost more blah blah blah. What cars don't? Get a evo drop cash into and boom done kills a whole lot of shit that cost more than it does. Get a fucking civic drop cash boom kills a whole lot of shit, the gtr didn't do anything new besides bring the japanese sports cars back to life.

Peoples first response to someone not liking a car is because they can't afford it, no that's not the case

I don't come around here because these are typical responses to a thread not even pertaining to the original topic. I'm no fanboy by any means, but I will give credit where credit is due. You may think paddle shifters are a joke, but guess what, you will never be able to shift any manual transmission car as fast as a paddle shifter trans.That is a fact. I guess Formula One cars must be a joke because they use paddle shifters too right?

It is a fact that it kills cars double and triple its cost.....STOCK. So it's not some fanboy response it's a fucking fact! A modded GTR does even more crazy shit. Throwing the Evo into the mix or a civic into the mix, how much money will you have to invest into each one of those to match a STOCK GTR in every aspect?? I'm sure it will be quite a bit more than you expect, because sure you can modify them to go in a straightline as fast, but will they be able to match it around a track? I know the Evo is a capable car, but it isn't close to matching the GTR stock, and throwing a modded example into the mix brings plenty of other issues up as far as reliability goes. That is actually a more typical fanboy response, "The GTR isn't as good as my 240sx because I can buy some bolt ons and make it faster for less money." That's how stupid this argument sounds.

Oh well, somehow the GTR gets brought up in a BRZ=240sx thread????

rb25_s13*CHUKI · 09-24-2012, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by raz0rbladez909

I don't come around here because these are typical responses to a thread not even pertaining to the original topic. I'm no fanboy by any means, but I will give credit where credit is due. You may think paddle shifters are a joke, but guess what, you will never be able to shift any manual transmission car as fast as a paddle shifter trans.That is a fact. I guess Formula One cars must be a joke because they use paddle shifters too right?

It is a fact that it kills cars double and triple its cost.....STOCK. So it's not some fanboy response it's a fucking fact! A modded GTR does even more crazy shit. Throwing the Evo into the mix or a civic into the mix, how much money will you have to invest into each one of those to match a STOCK GTR in every aspect?? I'm sure it will be quite a bit more than you expect, because sure you can modify them to go in a straightline as fast, but will they be able to match it around a track? I know the Evo is a capable car, but it isn't close to matching the GTR stock, and throwing a modded example into the mix brings plenty of other issues up as far as reliability goes. That is actually a more typical fanboy response, "The GTR isn't as good as my 240sx because I can buy some bolt ons and make it faster for less money." That's how stupid this argument sounds.

Oh well, somehow the GTR gets brought up in a BRZ=240sx thread????

I'm waiting for the nsx to come stomp out the gtr just like it did back in the days, anyways so this thread doesn't get closed did anyone happen to find the interview video for the brz? I think these days turbo charging is the way to go, the days of high hp n/a 4 cylinders are done.

The brz would have been a whole different beast is they would have done a 300 hp ej20 or ej25. Rwd with the sti power would be nice

Corbic · 09-24-2012, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rb25_s13*CHUKI

The brz would have been a whole different beast is they would have done a 300 hp ej20 or ej25. Rwd with the sti power would be nice

The EJ is obsolete. Get over it. The FB is the future and eventually the turbo Imprezas will feature it as well.

People are already making 400whp on ~$6,500 kits. That puts you at 30k which is easily what a turbo FRZ would have cost.

This gives Scubaru a chance to see what real demand is at, see what the competition does and in two years release an updated turbo car and make everyone ditch their Gen1s for some turbo power.

Remind you of anything?

raz0rbladez909 · 09-24-2012, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Corbic

The EJ is obsolete. Get over it. The FB is the future and eventually the turbo Imprezas will feature it as well.

People are already making 400whp on ~$6,500 kits. That puts you at 30k which is easily what a turbo FRZ would have cost.

This gives Scubaru a chance to see what real demand is at, see what the competition does and in two years release an updated turbo car and make everyone ditch their Gen1s for some turbo power.

Remind you of anything?

Quoted for truth, the EJ is old news. They already have a turbo version of the FA in the Legacy GT, I posted it a few pages back and the torque curve is amazing!

But like Corbic said, there are already several 400hp examples out there and they are no joke. The aftermarket is already extremely vast for it and is only going to get bigger.

sil80owner · 09-24-2012, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rb25_s13*CHUKI

I'm saying it's a joke because a true sports car doesn't have a flappy paddle gear box and a true sports car doesn't drive it self. Well That's how all new cars are so all new ones are a joke

Dude shut the he'll up. Sports car ha... You drive an evo and countless 240s lol and you are seriously trying to knock on super cars? You sound less like an enthusiast and more like a jelous fanboi

rb25_s13*CHUKI · 09-24-2012, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sil80owner

Dude shut the he'll up. Sports car ha... You drive an evo and countless 240s lol and you are seriously trying to knock on super cars? You sound less like an enthusiast and more like a jelous fanboi

To me in my own opinon in my eyes the paddle shifts are whack, you need some reading comprehension skills buddy. Did i say the gtr is slow? Weak? Garbage? Worthless? Not worth the money? Nope i said that paddle shift cars in my own opinion are a joke. It's a personal opinion and I'm sticking to it! I'm not jealous of any car on the road nor will i ever be, funny how people get so worked up because someone talks about a gtr. So you tell me who the real fan boy is! The person saying he doesn't like paddle shifters or the person getting mad because someone is talking about the gtr

Kingbaby · 09-25-2012, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by simmode1

I guessing any year Z33 will put a smile on my face

03-06 Have oil comsumption issues/sh!tty interiors easily fixed if coming from the 240 world.
07-08 HR motor/slighty better interior ques, same material so will fade the same
07-08 Nismo are in the 14-20k range

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Originally Posted by LoneStarSilvia

the community was really starting to turn quite......Honda-ish.

Every aging car faces this...

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Originally Posted by simmode1

I know what you mean about the Z33 scene, so I'm since I'm looking at RWD cars in the $10k to $14k range, options are limited. The Z's power and torque makes it easy to see why its so popular in that price range.

Also with it being in this range the aftermarket is somewhat re surging!

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Originally Posted by simmode1

350Z really is just the newest, cheapest, most powerful, low maintanance car you can buy on a budget, IMO. Hard to turn that away

+1

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Originally Posted by Future240

My question to all the 350Z owners what do you mean when you inevitably get used to the power and want more? Research tells me the VQ is not a boost happy engine with that 11:1 compression and fully built engines cost $$$$ and maybe subject to piston slap.

Depending on the year...if you need more power. Boosted Performance has been putting out great kits putting the VQ into the 400whp + safely. You can always spray these motors all day without worry if retarded correctly. You can join a few of us idiots on the NA path to 300whp.

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Originally Posted by nujabe

a good friend of mine is has one boosted and built with two 3071r.. thing puts down crazy numbers on shit 91.. and his is a de not a hr motor. if built they can do 1000 on e85 or c16. funny he was driving around with a seized gt28rs was his old set up thing was still destroying every thing. but his motor is built so.. stock de motors cant really do past 400 so around 5-8 psi if i recall.

+1 stock motors DE barely get into 400 safely

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Originally Posted by Corbic

350Z by todays standards is slow. (So is a FRZ however). The Z33 High-Rev (twin throttle bodies) is actually a quick car, 13 flat stock, but the DE and Rev-Up are Camry fast. (So is the FRZ).

The problem with the Z is the cramped engine bay. This means no budget turbo kits. You are looking at a min. of $4,500 or so and a total PITA install. There are some mid and remote mount turbo kits.

Engine rods let go at anything over 450whp... which is epic lame. Compression Ratio is not your enemy. Weak Rods are. So get some pistons, rods and a good head-gasket and your now ready for 700whp. This puts you at $6,500 for your build. But at this point your going to need a clutch, and all sorts of other nonsense, fuel, gauges - blah blah and by the time your done you are pushing $10,000 in mods and only have 700whp.

Thus is the problem. If you want Big-Power, get a Muscle Car... if you want "easy" power, it's still hard to beat the WRX/STI and Evo for just a quick reflash or turbo swap. If you want styling and crisp handeling, get a Porsche.

Otherwise the Z is a stylish and a solid car. More power than a S2K or RX8, generally more "nimble" then a Mustang and much cheaper than a Porsche. I don't see the FRZ being better in any manner to justify the extra $10-15k at this time.

If I was buying another sports car however it would be a C6 (budge warrior), Porsche (sophisticated, driving feel) or 5.0 Mustang (raw power, practical) however.

+1 to your statements...

Also coming from the 240 world you guys will love the Z. I don't see why anyone would jump to other soulless car companies.

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Originally Posted by Corbic

If the styling doesn't put you to sleep.. These are just as cheap with more power potential.

+1 complete sleepers

can't fit anything wider than 285 on that pig of a car though

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Originally Posted by rb25_s13*CHUKI

The only newer japanese sports car worth getting is a EVO or STI, z cars are complete trash and so are any new toyota/scion/nissan.

Your opinion, I rather the Z over those two four doors rally cars. Granted perfect for guys with kids that still want to line up with folks on the street/track.

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Originally Posted by rb25_s13*CHUKI

No it will not, It made me laugh and say I'm glad I didn't get one of these heaps

I'll be laughing when you pick either one...I pick a Z....within a year of us hitting the mountains together, which car breaks first. I've seen too many go up in flames....either poor tunes or too much boost....shit is a poor man's Ferrari when it comes to them catching fire...my opinion...I'm sure you can maintain, and mod a EVO/STi so it does't blow up, but from the street meet up stand point I've seen otherwise.

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Originally Posted by simmode1

For the money that I want to spend, early 350Z's are going to be my best bet, but other fun yet less power manual optioned competitiors include:
BWM 330ci
BWM Z4 3.0i
Lexus IS300 manual
Mazdaspeed Miata
S2000
2nd gen WRX

None are out and out powerful, but all are fun in their own right and can be found for under $12k whch would be a comfy note for me. But I still think I'd be happiest with an early 350Z running 4.08 final drive and the typical N/A power adders for the money.

+1

I'm not trying to be bias at all. The miata is second, and the s2k is last lmao...

I got the Z first cause I was young, and felt my 6 years overseas was wasted deployed at sea...

If I could do over...I'd do a S-chassis first, then a used Z. I did it backwards, hopefully the Z gets the same aftermarket the 240 has right now. From the builds,and overall knowledge you 240 guys have. The Z is the ideal upgrade!

The VQ motor is ugly

The VQ motor is hypnotic

please watch this whole video

ear porn

for the drift nuts

can't really get on your expensive Porsche or BMW

rb25_s13*CHUKI · 09-25-2012, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kingbaby

03-06 Have oil comsumption issues/sh!tty interiors easily fixed if coming from the 240 world.
07-08 HR motor/slighty better interior ques, same material so will fade the same
07-08 Nismo are in the 14-20k range

Every aging car faces this...

Also with it being in this range the aftermarket is somewhat re surging!

+1

Depending on the year...if you need more power. Boosted Performance has been putting out great kits putting the VQ into the 400whp + safely. You can always spray these motors all day without worry if retarded correctly. You can join a few of us idiots on the NA path to 300whp.

+1 stock motors DE barely get into 400 safely

+1 to your statements...

Also coming from the 240 world you guys will love the Z. I don't see why anyone would jump to other soulless car companies.

+1 complete sleepers

can't fit anything wider than 285 on that pig of a car though

Your opinion, I rather the Z over those two four doors rally cars. Granted perfect for guys with kids that still want to line up with folks on the street/track.

I'll be laughing when you pick either one...I pick a Z....within a year of us hitting the mountains together, which car breaks first. I've seen too many go up in flames....either poor tunes or too much boost....shit is a poor man's Ferrari when it comes to them catching fire...my opinion...I'm sure you can maintain, and mod a EVO/STi so it does't blow up, but from the street meet up stand point I've seen otherwise.

+1

I'm not trying to be bias at all. The miata is second, and the s2k is last lmao...

I got the Z first cause I was young, and felt my 6 years overseas was wasted deployed at sea...

If I could do over...I'd do a S-chassis first, then a used Z. I did it backwards, hopefully the Z gets the same aftermarket the 240 has right now. From the builds,and overall knowledge you 240 guys have. The Z is the ideal upgrade!

The VQ motor is ugly

The VQ motor is hypnotic

please watch this whole video

ear porn

for the drift nuts

can't really get on your expensive Porsche or BMW

Finally someone that understands opinions!!! Yes it is my opinion! I did have an evo and i daily drove it at 450awhp and it never gave me a single problem, been to plenty of mountains,track days,meets,freeway runs, couple street races. Had 98k when it got hit by a big rig, didn't break a single transmission or transfer case. I only broke 2 driveshafts and went through 4 clutches before i decided on a excedy triple disc. Never overheated or burned oil, car ran great and was the best car I've owned. A/c blasting and everything.

Bone stock bottom end! None rebuilt! Greddy timing components,greddy valvetrain,greddy head gasket.... anyways enough of this nonsense!!!

I'm interested in these turbo kits for the brz!! I wanna go check this car out some time this week, i test drove a genisis v6 and i4 turbo. I liked the turbo much better it felt spunkier mid range and top end but the v6 had good bottom end for being a Hyundai. It reminded me a hr 350z

+400000 on 1st gen 350z having oil problems! My buddys ended up rod knocking going up Angeles crest highway due to oil pump failure at 110k miles!!

rb25_s13*CHUKI · 09-25-2012, 06:25 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD3h...e_gdata_player

*exitspeed* · 09-25-2012, 07:27 AM

I understand people have their own opinions. I've been around long enough to know that sometimes they are wrong.

I mean, you can think what you want, but calling a physics defying car a joke because of a perceived single flaw is just laughable. IMO.

simmode1 · 09-25-2012, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingbaby

03-06 Have oil comsumption issues/sh!tty interiors easily fixed if coming from the 240 world.

You can always spray these motors all day without worry if retarded correctly.

Also coming from the 240 world you guys will love the Z. I don't see why anyone would jump to other soulless car companies.

Nice post, Kingbaby. 4.08 gears, N/A bolt ons and maybe some juice was exactly what I was thinking too. I would be perfectly fine with about 350whp in a Z33. About 100hp for every 1000 lbs of weight sounds lovely to me while being relatively inexpensive compared to turbo/supercharger setups.

But I want to know exactly how serious is this VQ35 oil comsumption problem? I mean, what are my odds of buying one of those? And can it actually be fixed? I've heard its caused by improperly fitted piston rings from the factory and that some ppl fix it with and oil catch setup (weirdly enough).

And hell, ALL of my 240's leaked oil. I just check my level every 2 weeks or so. And oil burning Z wouldn't be too much more different, right?

Back on topic:

MadScientist · 09-25-2012, 11:07 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD3hgleEOXA

09-22-2012, 07:36 PM	#602
rb25_s13*CHUKI Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cali Age: 32 Posts: 2,759 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	The only newer japanese sports car worth getting is a EVO or STI, z cars are complete trash and so are any new toyota/scion/nissan. Other than the gtr from nissan which is out of the question for most people, American sports cars are tearing japanese sports cars a new asshole. European or american is where it's at right now __________________ Obliterate

09-23-2012, 11:25 AM	#606
simmode1 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Addison, TX Posts: 5,526 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks for the recommendations, Corbic. I've previously examined them all. The GTO is priced about the same as the E46 M3, which is to say: a little more than I want to pay. But the GTO is an even more rare car. For the money that I want to spend, early 350Z's are going to be my best bet, but other fun yet less power manual optioned competitiors include: BWM 330ci BWM Z4 3.0i Lexus IS300 manual Mazdaspeed Miata S2000 2nd gen WRX None are out and out powerful, but all are fun in their own right and can be found for under $12k whch would be a comfy note for me. But I still think I'd be happiest with an early 350Z running 4.08 final drive and the typical N/A power adders for the money. Last edited by simmode1; 09-23-2012 at 12:23 PM..

09-23-2012, 04:56 PM	#610
LoneStarSilvia Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Okinawa--->Arizona Age: 33 Posts: 1,509 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Hmmm, 0-60 in under 3 seconds doesn't seem like much a joke to me, but whatever.....can we get back on FRZBRZ topic and not e-penis measuring contest? I suck at finding videos I've seen before. I'm looking for that one where the guy who co-developed the FT86 is driving it and talking about some of the design insight. __________________

09-23-2012, 05:16 PM	#612
rb25_s13*CHUKI Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cali Age: 32 Posts: 2,759 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	On the brz subject why didn't this thing get a turbo charger? __________________ Obliterate

09-23-2012, 06:14 PM	#614
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 41 Posts: 20,898 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Sorry. I've lost interest in this thread. Calling the GTR a joke is just about as ignorant or closed minded as you get in my book. I don't care if the culprit is a "nissan enthusiast". __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

09-23-2012, 05:27 PM	#613
simmode1 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Addison, TX Posts: 5,526 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^^^Probaby because the original 86 wasn't a turbo'd. The FRS/BRZ is that car's spiritual successor, lets not forget.

09-25-2012, 06:25 AM	#627
rb25_s13*CHUKI Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cali Age: 32 Posts: 2,759 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD3h...e_gdata_player __________________ Obliterate

09-25-2012, 07:27 AM	#628
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 41 Posts: 20,898 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I understand people have their own opinions. I've been around long enough to know that sometimes they are wrong. I mean, you can think what you want, but calling a physics defying car a joke because of a perceived single flaw is just laughable. IMO. __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

09-25-2012, 11:07 AM	#630
MadScientist Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NOLA Age: 44 Posts: 1,964 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD3hgleEOXA

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