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Old 05-03-2009, 12:24 PM   #31
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My girlfriend got a ref ticket coming home from the movies in Lakeside (east county san diego) doing the speed limit and just driving home. The cop said her exhaust was extremely loud and that is why she got pulled over. She had a completely stock rb20 and n1 w/ silencer and that shit is quieter then most stock cars. Cop popped the hood said since she has a filter that she did have a cat on the car, so he reffed it.
Then two days ago my bro and I were cruising in his corolla to my shop when a s2000 comes blaring past us, didn't think anything of it. Make a turn to go towards my shop and this cop comes haulin' ass up behind us with the lights on, we pull over dude was like "get your hands where I can see them." Cops comes up with the gun pulled out and everything, cuffs my bro throws him in the back of the cop car and tells us we where street racing with the s2000, avading arrest, and speeding. Long story short, he pops the hood gives it a 2 sec look and gives us a ref ticket and an exhaust ticket, but no other ones.
Keep your car quiet and stock looking to avoid the bs from the cops.

howd you guys get out of it? that some serious lawyer-getting-time if there ever was a time.
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what ethnic are you guys? no seriously that plays a roll imo.
The correct annunciation is, "What ethnicity are you guys".

Back to the topic, it has more to do than just race.

Most of the time cops don't know how you look when they pull you over.

Even more so, I don't see the point about people complaining about ref.

Nobody is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to put mods that don't comply with state and federal laws on your car.

But a DD if you must.

If you can't take the heat...
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stop your complaining you drive an illegal car deal with it. you chose to modify it you chose to take the risk. i have to admit ethnicity does play some Role (idc how much you say it doesn't it does ive been told by more than just a few cops) but the way you drive a car is a bigger role. im the perfect example really

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My Car basically Screams Pull me over every time i shift. but i don't drive like an idiot. Hell Even Karls car Screams "PULL ME THE FUCK OVER DO IT! DO IT NOW!!! C'MON!" and even when he drives to the track in that car nothing. it's all on the way you drive and look. if you look like a punk you will get hastled. if you are polite and look like you are just going about your own business you'll be OK.
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Depends on the cop.

I've been pulled over while following the law.

Was polite and compliant with the officer and still got a ref.

Depends on the cop.

Am I going to cry about it happening, no.

I know that driving a modded car gets you attention.

So it's whatever.
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bardabe your only 19 you probably havent been around long enough to experience it yet, but trust you will, esp if your from 951 UCR area. if not, consider yourself lucky. It hits when you least expect it, than changes your view on things.
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Hey, FYI new law coming out soon...
If your car smokes, just smokes! not being loud or looks modified, just smokes (even a little) they can pull you over. And if the cops an ass, pop the hood and look around.

F 'n sucks for just about any old 240 that burns oil (even a little)
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howd you guys get out of it? that some serious lawyer-getting-time if there ever was a time.
Yeah, lucky for me one of my customers is a lawyer and we will be pursuing this.
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Hey, FYI new law coming out soon...
If your car smokes, just smokes! not being loud or looks modified, just smokes (even a little) they can pull you over. And if the cops an ass, pop the hood and look around.

F 'n sucks for just about any old 240 that burns oil (even a little)

You do know that law is not new right? that has been in effect for some years now, they even have a number where you can report excessive polluting cars don't know if that has change or not.
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Lol, yea its for the Air Resources Board HQ here in Northernl CA. Its called a "Smoking Vehicle Complaint" and it literally means NOTHING, you get reported and you get a letter in the mail from the EPA stating that your car is a gross poluter and that you should fix it...thats it...doesnt get reported to the cops or anything. I know because i helped put together the database for logging the complaints in.

I worked at the ARB for like 3 years doing that crap, the only time that it REALLY matters is when you drive a comercial vehicle, then all that stuff is recorded and can become an issue if you repeatedly get reported...then again thats why they have weigh stations and crap with opacity readings bla bla bla...

Its funny tho, you 240 guys have it bad...Its a rather "high profile" car now adays...IMHO its gotten to the point where its like the new civic of street racing...everyone wants one, and now everyone does....so of course the cops are catching on..

I have rocked no front plates on my boosted maxima with my month sticker on my liscence plate all pealed off (pressure washer took it off on accident lol) and i also only have one functioning plate light...I have no tinted windows so you can c all my gauges from accross an intersection....cops never really mess with me (cross fingers) of course my exhuast is on the quiet side to help things out...

i drive my 510 around and that thing is LOUD....if anything cops pull up next to me and give me a thumbs up (happened before) Then again BOTH of my cars are VERY clean, and with the exception of my gauges my maxima is a sleaper...

Best thing you can do is put quiet exaust, WASH your car OFTEN, make sure its got clean paint WITHOUT a "kombat kit" other than that dont mod your car if you cant hang....thats why i bought my 510...NO SMOG bish....lol
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yeah I remember when I was a kid and my dad called it on some crx that was smoking bad
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Let's say I get pulled over and have to go to a ref station. He tells me I have to take my sr out and put the ka back in. How long do I have to do this? Finding an engine and installing it is no 1 day, or even 1 week adventure for most of us.
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tell him go fuck himself and pay your fee's in court...

you drive a car with an illegal engine which you cannot provide any documented proof you purchased it. and the united states cannot provide any legal proof it isn't stolen because the car it came from is not in these states.

I mean is it a no brainer to you fucking idiots why you get these tickets?

It's not like you put a b18c in your 1989 civic hatchback which is legal.

You put a japanese motor in your car from a vehicle that has never been on this soil, and even if it came from your "homies" car it still came from japan. Everyone who gets a ref ticket deserves it, I expect nothing less than getting a ref ticket once I start daily driving my car.

I'll tell the cop, no problem I'll pay my ticket off and be back on the streets in no time, wave if you see me.

They cant impound your car for it unless you were driving like a dumb fuck and that's why you got pulled over and they cannot search your car without a warrant. If you let them then you're a dumbass.

if it's CHP and they deem your car an unsafe vehicle then they have probable cause to search it.

Otherwise your police, sherriff, etc.

have no business under your hood.
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You are not obligated to pop your hood for any police officer unless they have search warrant. If they ask you tell them no. "Sir I do not consent to ANY searches." If they proceed to forcibly search your car then you can sue them for illegal search and seizure. They can threaten you all they want and try to scare you but without a warrant,they will have to let you go. Don't throw your rights away just because a cop tries to intimidate you into doing so.
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You are not obligated to pop your hood for any police officer unless they have search warrant. If they ask you tell them no. "Sir I do not consent to ANY searches." If they proceed to forcibly search your car then you can sue them for illegal search and seizure. They can threaten you all they want and try to scare you but without a warrant,they will have to let you go. Don't throw your rights away just because a cop tries to intimidate you into doing so.
So they can tow your car and then search your car at the impound lot?

Sweet!

Refusing to show a cop just makes them think you are that more guilty.
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what ethnic are you guys? no seriously that plays a roll imo.
+1.

plus looks (shaved heads don't help) and age.
Cuz when i was younger, i use to get pulled over once a month!
Now, I never get pulled over. I did about a year ago, going 5 mph over the speed limit. I told the cop I was in a hurry cuz my 5yr old had a fever (which was true) and I needed to take him to the hospital.
He let me go with an exhaust warning (N1, no silencer).
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My buddy refused to pop the hood of his CRX a few years ago and his car was towed to the impound. When he got his car back, all the wiring harnesses were cut and he was out a shitload from the impound fee as well as the cost of the multiple emission violations.

We can bitch and whine about the popos all we want but the reality is that we are doing illegal shit to our cars and we will have to deal with the consequences.

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So they can tow your car and then search your car at the impound lot?

Sweet!

Refusing to show a cop just makes them think you are that more guilty.
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I just found out that having a pep boys filter, just the filter not the intake can get you a state ref ticket. Thats news to me.
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cops will get you for anything these days. it's legal to have a cat-back exhaust as long as you dont pass the exhaust decibel. it's somewhere i've read it before.

only thing that pisses me off is when cops tail the shit outta you. honestly wtf is their problem, they could run your plates from a distance. if anything we should be able to brake check their bitch ass and scare the shit out of them or they'll end up rear ending us. it wouldn't be our fault, cause he aint even suppose to be that close. cops are suppose to set examples blahblahblah, but i see retarded cops taking advantage of their authority. some cops are chill but a loot are douche bags imo.
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I don't know if this is true but I was talking to a supposed police cadet and he said the cars they were training in have sensors and if an exhaust goes over a certain level it sets them off....
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or cruiser bikes that are as loud as a tractor. Lmao.
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Anyone actually ref their cars and get their tickets resolved? I know I did. It was stupid, I got an exhaust ticket and I had to ref my car in order to not pay a huge chunk of cash.

The GOOD thing is that if you ref (and pass the decibel test) you get a certificate which basically says "I have an xxxwhatever aftermarket exhaust system, and it's legit."

I got pulled over again, flashed this shit at the police, and he let me go without so much as an argument.
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^i have passed. Two years ago. got reffed for cone filter. Bought a sohc and it passed. Paid 10 bucks for ticket.

exhaust tickets too. passed db test. 10 bucks.

i always make sure that shit says CORRECTABLE when im about to sign the ticket.
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^ legit.

dont know if ill pass the db test. sigh.

if you dont pass it what they do? tell you to fix that shit? cuz my friend got ref'd and they took pictures of everything that he needed to remove.
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Old 06-09-2009, 12:15 PM   #60
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I actually am running a buddyclub spec 2 and is super quiet with the silencer on...but once i take that shieet off omg super loud lol... but i was next to a bike cop the other day at a light he was just looking at my car all around.. but i had the silencer on it didnt sound like i had an aftermarket exhaust...
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