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FloridaRacing · 01-23-2008, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NemeGuero

I don't think I'd go to a low speed drift/autoX, just to let you know Jon.
I liked the 3rd gear too much. hahah

ya, agreed.....

*NemeGuero* · 01-24-2008, 11:44 AM

Where's DLo's?!

Oh, and .. fuck I forgot what I was gonna say.

Sliders562 · 01-24-2008, 12:40 PM

i've decided to add a lil flava flava of my style and what you guys want for next event so yes indeed everyone will be satisfied.

JD course and practice session obstacles still in program that will be used in majority of time, it will interchange, although, there will be a bonus section since its a full day next time,
i guess the best thing i can do for the grippers are just the summer action

Blackparade · 01-24-2008, 05:03 PM

Practice for the newbs in the morning, consisting of donuts and figure 8's.
Then intermediate adavanced after that hitting up the JD course.
Interchange between the two groups every hour till 12 in the afternoon. Then both groups should run the JD course still seperated by skill level, and still interchanging every hour till the end!

Its the best training for your group, trust me!!!!!!
Ill probably be a spy at the next event =)

TheSquidd · 01-24-2008, 05:11 PM

Based on interviews from the drivers, most just wanted to get to the Just Drift layout ASAP.

Donuts and such are a good warm up for about an hour, but to develop as a driver you need to get to a real course with clipping points and transitions.

The harder the challenge the faster you'll develop.

Sure, you might suck ass and spin, but at least you're progressing.

Blackparade · 01-24-2008, 05:25 PM

Exactly...thats why you should have the beginers hitting the donuts and fig 8's till noon. Thats gonna be about 3-4 hour sessions.
Most begginers i help out go will learn how to keep the slide going, and be able to transition by noon. So when they hit the JD course, even if they spin, they will still be progressing one corner at a time. Then when they show up to another event, they could skip the dontus and just hit the course. I was a begginer not to long ago, and trust me, this is what helped the most.

FloridaRacing · 01-24-2008, 06:43 PM

you dont need to have 2 courses.

just setup the JD course, big circle then a figure 8 in the middle of the circle. (or no figure 8) . everyone goes out at will

Beginners line up on the right, int on the left. beginners go out 1 at a time to just go drift around the circle/figure 8 for a minute or 2, after that 2 intermediates in the left lane go 2 laps, back to 1 beginner to do the circle, etc. then you just keep 1 course that tailors to beginners and advanced. beginners should be able to judge for themselves on what they need to do. If not, they are instructed to be in the beginner line if they constantly spin trying to do the advanced (full) course.

I would like to see some small cones setup at clipping points, entry inside corner, inside haybail, back hail bail mid circle then exit left

SoCal-s130 · 01-24-2008, 06:44 PM

I agree with above posts.

*swayray* · 01-24-2008, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaRacing

you dont need to have 2 courses.

just setup the JD course, big circle then a figure 8 in the middle of the circle. (or no figure 8) . everyone goes out at will

Beginners line up on the right, int on the left. beginners go out 1 at a time to just go drift around the circle/figure 8 for a minute or 2, after that 2 intermediates in the left lane go 2 laps, back to 1 beginner to do the circle, etc. then you just keep 1 course that tailors to beginners and advanced. beginners should be able to judge for themselves on what they need to do. If not, they are instructed to be in the beginner line if they constantly spin trying to do the advanced (full) course.

I would like to see some small cones setup at clipping points, entry inside corner, inside haybail, back hail bail mid circle then exit left

I tried that on the previous event... didn't work that well... but then again we had over 30 drivers...

Blackparade · 01-24-2008, 06:50 PM

that would be a nice set up if wthere were beginers who could keep fig 8's within the confines of the ring, but i dont know of any. Also the beginers will be taking out cones when going around the ring. Everytime some one runs a anihilates a cone, we will have to re position the track so that the intermidiate guys could have a good run. Picking up cones takes forever, excpecially when you think about how many times your gonna have to do it. Thats why its always best to have two groups.

Sliders562 · 01-24-2008, 07:12 PM

no haybail moving allowed next event. cones only. no two groups due to people not going with their call groups, yes i caught some of you guys cutting into another group--- imma stick to the idea i planned. From my review it'll keep both sides happy beginner and intermediate, and yes Squidd, mark and the others, your advice about people anxious about the just drift layout will be kindly thought of. i also talked to drivers near the end of the day and some were missing the beginning layout when the jd course was at the end of the day then they went home. >> not a good sign

consistency & making all drivers happy is the key to a successful event.

....... staking a contest... eh some ppl probably went home kinda iffy

hunter8411 · 01-24-2008, 07:25 PM

Either way I'll be at the next event. But the beginners course gets old fast, and burning up tires doing just donuts gets old even faster.

I dont mind practicing the sweeper while everyone else works on their donuts. However the JD course is what I think alot of us were waiting for most of the day, atleast I know I was.

Blackparade · 01-24-2008, 08:34 PM

well if you could do donuts ok, then move to the intermidiate gorup and do the JD course. No biggy.

vinhnumber · 01-24-2008, 09:47 PM

both of the touke's i've drove in, they were both great, lots of track time, and I had a fair amount of track time on the full course, even though I seem to run into problems everytime I go to the track.

DLo Eric · 01-24-2008, 11:22 PM

I made a gif of some video I got of the event heh heh smokin'

Sliders562 · 01-25-2008, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DLo Eric

I made a gif of some video I got of the event heh heh smokin'

no extra pics ?

DLo Eric · 01-25-2008, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sliders562

no extra pics ?

I do but I still need to go through them haha

*NemeGuero* · 01-25-2008, 12:57 PM

fuck it, just upload them all. haha

karl wasabi · 01-25-2008, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sliders562

i also talked to drivers near the end of the day and some were missing the beginning layout when the jd course was at the end of the day then they went home. >> not a good sign

consistency & making all drivers happy is the key to a successful event.

....... staking a contest... eh some ppl probably went home kinda iffy

Donuts are boring. All you do is kill tires. Donuts should really only be no more than an hour. ...and why would people go home after the donut course. They must be crazyyy. The JD layout is what you go to Balcony for.

The contest was really fun. It just needs to be organized. I saw people going like 5 or more times. I thought it was 1 judged run. If anything, it should be 3 runs max on the full course or the donut course and take the best judged run. I think people went home iffy because of this.

Communication is key!

*NemeGuero* · 01-25-2008, 03:01 PM

This is true.. I didn't drive hella miles for a skid pad. (I could do that up here)
I couldn't understand why people were driving on that thing all day.

SUPERSTAR · 01-25-2008, 03:55 PM

The contest was really fun. It just needs to be organized. I saw people going like 5 or more times. I thought it was 1 judged run. If anything, it should be 3 runs max on the full course or the donut course and take the best judged run. I think people went home iffy because of this.

Communication is key![/quote]

Agree, Thanks Karl for the input, Keep in mind this is our first attempt at this, but I will sit down with my staff and Touke's for restructure. It was based on first run and Judged by the crowd reaction. The other runs did not count and they just wanted seat time.
It will get better and so will the PRIZES.

Irukandji · 01-25-2008, 05:13 PM

Yeah the "competition" was more of a side show. Burn outs and donuts... ZZZZzzzzzz

I'm not complaining everyone was on the skid pad, MORE TIME FOR ME! har har

But yeah, the line for the skid pad was 8 cars long, while the line for balcony was 3 cars. Something isn't right

DLo Eric · 01-25-2008, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irukandji

Yeah the "competition" was more of a side show. Burn outs and donuts... ZZZZzzzzzz

I'm not complaining everyone was on the skid pad, MORE TIME FOR ME! har har

But yeah, the line for the skid pad was 8 cars long, while the line for balcony was 3 cars. Something isn't right

That back corner kills, always a lot of sand in some spots and its not really that wide. I was waiting for an open track for some fun time.

speed_racerx · 01-25-2008, 11:11 PM

too bad you left before we opened it up. i had a blast w/ the jd setup.

thanks for the sticker louis!!

Sliders562 · 01-26-2008, 11:15 AM

the contest i have nothing to do with that>>>

Touke next event:
less morning warm-up session, more JD layout
9:00am - 11:00am morning warm-up skidders & backyard sweepers
11:30am - 5:00pm afternoon JD or option sweeper layout

haha touke going on a lil vacation, im going to drift day this month stay tune for the next event

silsx13 · 01-26-2008, 12:58 PM

Whoa- I like how everyone is putting their own 2 cents in the discussion along with contributing good ideas and feedback which are all totally valid.

I think that instead of just having the JD course layout, why not also have the now "big" left hand sweeper open as well??? That would give drivers the option of doing either the JD course or just the sweeper itself, depending on how "saucy skilled" they feel. The left-hand sweeper might seem easy for some but i still see it as something that should be conquered totally at the balcony if you haven't done so already.

Besides that, I can see the merit in Jon's desire to have a grip session- I believe that before you learn how to drift, you should learn how to grip.

karl wasabi · 01-26-2008, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silsx13

Whoa- I like how everyone is putting their own 2 cents in the discussion along with contributing good ideas and feedback which are all totally valid.

I think that instead of just having the JD course layout, why not also have the now "big" left hand sweeper open as well??? That would give drivers the option of doing either the JD course or just the sweeper itself, depending on how "saucy skilled" they feel. The left-hand sweeper might seem easy for some but i still see it as something that should be conquered totally at the balcony if you haven't done so already.

Besides that, I can see the merit in Jon's desire to have a grip session- I believe that before you learn how to drift, you should learn how to grip.

The left hand sweeper is always open. No one says that you HAVE to do the JD circle. Just do as you please I guess. Just don't be a track hog. =)

Sliders562 · 01-26-2008, 01:14 PM

i agree on the left hand sweeper and jd course yes indeed final.

Touke next event:
less morning warm-up session, more JD layout
9:00am - 11:00am morning warm-up skidders & backyard sweepers
11:30am - 5:00pm afternoon JD or option sweeper layout

i just thought grip/drift cuz i need the workout, but its kewl i'll go to other events to work out

haha im going to drift day WOO HOO! now to find a way to pass tech spec

silsx13 · 01-26-2008, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karl wasabi

The left hand sweeper is always open. No one says that you HAVE to do the JD circle. Just do as you please I guess. Just don't be a track hog. =)

Yep agree with that Karl. Just wanted to bring up the idea of the left hand sweeper since it wasn't mentioned yet in the discussion of course layouts (if it was correct me, sorry!).

And about driftday Jon- What type of helmet do you have? I ask because DD now requires all helmets to be SA or Snell certified, no more motorcycle helmets (i.e. MSnell, etc.). Just looking ou for ya.

That reminds me, i have to buy a new helmet if i wanna do DDs!!! Darn.....

Blackparade · 01-26-2008, 03:30 PM

damn it!!!!!!! no more msnell

01-24-2008, 11:44 AM	#662
NemeGuero No more nissan. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: RAIN, Washington. Age: 36 Posts: 8,132 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: NemeGuero Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Where's DLo's?! Oh, and .. fuck I forgot what I was gonna say. __________________

01-24-2008, 12:40 PM	#663
Sliders562 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: [714] Age: 37 Posts: 2,094 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: Sliders562 Feedback Score: 5 reviews	i've decided to add a lil flava flava of my style and what you guys want for next event so yes indeed everyone will be satisfied. JD course and practice session obstacles still in program that will be used in majority of time, it will interchange, although, there will be a bonus section since its a full day next time, i guess the best thing i can do for the grippers are just the summer action __________________

01-24-2008, 05:11 PM	#665
TheSquidd Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Where dirt goes to die. Posts: 3,165 Trader Rating: (7) Rides Gallery: TheSquidd Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Based on interviews from the drivers, most just wanted to get to the Just Drift layout ASAP. Donuts and such are a good warm up for about an hour, but to develop as a driver you need to get to a real course with clipping points and transitions. The harder the challenge the faster you'll develop. Sure, you might suck ass and spin, but at least you're progressing. __________________ www.squidd.org www.violent-running.org

01-24-2008, 06:43 PM	#667
FloridaRacing Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Oceanside, CA Age: 40 Posts: 375 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	you dont need to have 2 courses. just setup the JD course, big circle then a figure 8 in the middle of the circle. (or no figure 8) . everyone goes out at will Beginners line up on the right, int on the left. beginners go out 1 at a time to just go drift around the circle/figure 8 for a minute or 2, after that 2 intermediates in the left lane go 2 laps, back to 1 beginner to do the circle, etc. then you just keep 1 course that tailors to beginners and advanced. beginners should be able to judge for themselves on what they need to do. If not, they are instructed to be in the beginner line if they constantly spin trying to do the advanced (full) course. I would like to see some small cones setup at clipping points, entry inside corner, inside haybail, back hail bail mid circle then exit left __________________ floridaracing.org SR20DET 510/350whp - S13/702HP/V8 - 07 350z/343 WHP

01-24-2008, 06:44 PM	#668
SoCal-s130 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Chino Posts: 1,743 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	I agree with above posts. __________________

01-24-2008, 05:03 PM	#664
Blackparade Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: LA Age: 35 Posts: 1,022 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Practice for the newbs in the morning, consisting of donuts and figure 8's. Then intermediate adavanced after that hitting up the JD course. Interchange between the two groups every hour till 12 in the afternoon. Then both groups should run the JD course still seperated by skill level, and still interchanging every hour till the end! Its the best training for your group, trust me!!!!!! Ill probably be a spy at the next event =)

01-24-2008, 05:25 PM	#666
Blackparade Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: LA Age: 35 Posts: 1,022 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Exactly...thats why you should have the beginers hitting the donuts and fig 8's till noon. Thats gonna be about 3-4 hour sessions. Most begginers i help out go will learn how to keep the slide going, and be able to transition by noon. So when they hit the JD course, even if they spin, they will still be progressing one corner at a time. Then when they show up to another event, they could skip the dontus and just hit the course. I was a begginer not to long ago, and trust me, this is what helped the most.

01-24-2008, 06:50 PM	#670
Blackparade Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: LA Age: 35 Posts: 1,022 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	that would be a nice set up if wthere were beginers who could keep fig 8's within the confines of the ring, but i dont know of any. Also the beginers will be taking out cones when going around the ring. Everytime some one runs a anihilates a cone, we will have to re position the track so that the intermidiate guys could have a good run. Picking up cones takes forever, excpecially when you think about how many times your gonna have to do it. Thats why its always best to have two groups.

01-24-2008, 07:12 PM	#671
Sliders562 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: [714] Age: 37 Posts: 2,094 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: Sliders562 Feedback Score: 5 reviews	no haybail moving allowed next event. cones only. no two groups due to people not going with their call groups, yes i caught some of you guys cutting into another group--- imma stick to the idea i planned. From my review it'll keep both sides happy beginner and intermediate, and yes Squidd, mark and the others, your advice about people anxious about the just drift layout will be kindly thought of. i also talked to drivers near the end of the day and some were missing the beginning layout when the jd course was at the end of the day then they went home. >> not a good sign consistency & making all drivers happy is the key to a successful event. ....... staking a contest... eh some ppl probably went home kinda iffy __________________

01-24-2008, 07:25 PM	#672
hunter8411 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SoCal Age: 37 Posts: 664 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	Either way I'll be at the next event. But the beginners course gets old fast, and burning up tires doing just donuts gets old even faster. I dont mind practicing the sweeper while everyone else works on their donuts. However the JD course is what I think alot of us were waiting for most of the day, atleast I know I was.

01-24-2008, 08:34 PM	#673
Blackparade Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: LA Age: 35 Posts: 1,022 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well if you could do donuts ok, then move to the intermidiate gorup and do the JD course. No biggy.

01-24-2008, 09:47 PM	#674
vinhnumber Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: 909/626/562/949/714/951 Posts: 528 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	both of the touke's i've drove in, they were both great, lots of track time, and I had a fair amount of track time on the full course, even though I seem to run into problems everytime I go to the track. __________________ Oh you be mad cuz I'm stylin' on ya!

01-24-2008, 11:22 PM	#675
DLo Eric Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Las Vegas Age: 34 Posts: 244 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: DLo Eric Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I made a gif of some video I got of the event heh heh smokin'

01-25-2008, 12:57 PM	#678
NemeGuero No more nissan. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: RAIN, Washington. Age: 36 Posts: 8,132 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: NemeGuero Feedback Score: 10 reviews	fuck it, just upload them all. haha __________________

01-25-2008, 03:01 PM	#680
NemeGuero No more nissan. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: RAIN, Washington. Age: 36 Posts: 8,132 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: NemeGuero Feedback Score: 10 reviews	This is true.. I didn't drive hella miles for a skid pad. (I could do that up here) I couldn't understand why people were driving on that thing all day. __________________

01-25-2008, 03:55 PM	#681
SUPERSTAR Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Orange Socal** Age: 46 Posts: 6,413 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	The contest was really fun. It just needs to be organized. I saw people going like 5 or more times. I thought it was 1 judged run. If anything, it should be 3 runs max on the full course or the donut course and take the best judged run. I think people went home iffy because of this. Communication is key![/quote] Agree, Thanks Karl for the input, Keep in mind this is our first attempt at this, but I will sit down with my staff and Touke's for restructure. It was based on first run and Judged by the crowd reaction. The other runs did not count and they just wanted seat time. It will get better and so will the PRIZES. __________________ *"ARE YOU ONE'EM SKID RACERS?"*

01-25-2008, 05:13 PM	#682
Irukandji Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Compton Posts: 4,268 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah the "competition" was more of a side show. Burn outs and donuts... ZZZZzzzzzz I'm not complaining everyone was on the skid pad, MORE TIME FOR ME! har har But yeah, the line for the skid pad was 8 cars long, while the line for balcony was 3 cars. Something isn't right

01-25-2008, 11:11 PM	#684
speed_racerx Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Houston Age: 33 Posts: 523 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	too bad you left before we opened it up. i had a blast w/ the jd setup. thanks for the sticker louis!! __________________ Aircraft mechanics, so pilots can have heroes too

01-26-2008, 11:15 AM	#685
Sliders562 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: [714] Age: 37 Posts: 2,094 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: Sliders562 Feedback Score: 5 reviews	the contest i have nothing to do with that>>> Touke next event: less morning warm-up session, more JD layout 9:00am - 11:00am morning warm-up skidders & backyard sweepers 11:30am - 5:00pm afternoon JD or option sweeper layout haha touke going on a lil vacation, im going to drift day this month stay tune for the next event __________________

01-26-2008, 12:58 PM	#686
silsx13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: SoCal Posts: 776 Trader Rating: (34) Rides Gallery: silsx13 Feedback Score: 34 reviews	Whoa- I like how everyone is putting their own 2 cents in the discussion along with contributing good ideas and feedback which are all totally valid. I think that instead of just having the JD course layout, why not also have the now "big" left hand sweeper open as well??? That would give drivers the option of doing either the JD course or just the sweeper itself, depending on how "saucy skilled" they feel. The left-hand sweeper might seem easy for some but i still see it as something that should be conquered totally at the balcony if you haven't done so already. Besides that, I can see the merit in Jon's desire to have a grip session- I believe that before you learn how to drift, you should learn how to grip. __________________ Blog: *http://hartapexlife.blogspot.com/*

01-26-2008, 01:14 PM	#688
Sliders562 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: [714] Age: 37 Posts: 2,094 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: Sliders562 Feedback Score: 5 reviews	i agree on the left hand sweeper and jd course yes indeed final. Touke next event: less morning warm-up session, more JD layout 9:00am - 11:00am morning warm-up skidders & backyard sweepers 11:30am - 5:00pm afternoon JD or option sweeper layout i just thought grip/drift cuz i need the workout, but its kewl i'll go to other events to work out haha im going to drift day WOO HOO! now to find a way to pass tech spec __________________

01-26-2008, 03:30 PM	#690
Blackparade Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: LA Age: 35 Posts: 1,022 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	damn it!!!!!!! no more msnell

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