g6civcx

The basis of the question depends on the definition of "criminal". I think we can all agree that if you break the law, you're a "criminal". If you don't, then you are not a "criminal".

The problem is that we have a lot of laws that we may not know about. If we got technical, I can show that just about everyone breaks some kind of law. Then this means we're all "criminals".

Colloquially, "criminal" has meant someone who has committed serious crimes. While the seriousness of crimes is highly subjective, I think we can all agree that rape and murder qualify as serious crimes.


So if we define "criminal" as someone who rapes and/or murder, I reserve judgement on criminals.

It all depends on respect. Respect is a code of conduct that you show when dealing with people. There is a certain line you should never cross.

If you show respect and only harm disrespectful people, then it's fine by me.

If you are disrespectful and mess with people for no reason, then it's not good.

DALAZ_68

this...is 100% agreeable to me...even when its family, you cant lie to yourself and change the rules...

and who the fuck are you to tell him how to live his life...?!

im not tryin to sound like a douche, but seriously, thats his life, and from what your sayin, his choices are good ones, you know he's not gonna end up with a kid at a stupid young age, that he cant support. You know when he's driving at midnight while ur drunk, you know he's sober as fuck and dont need to worry about getting pulled over...shit, i dont gamble either, fuck that, i work to hard for my money to put it on 50/50 chance of loosing it, id rather it be 100 mine...only reason ive been to vegas was to drink and pussy...never had a reason or desire to hit the tables...

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fcdrifter20

not all ppl who go to jail are bad ppl.

for those who may know me, know that i have done time over and over again, never hit the big leagues with prison time. but have a had a lot of jail time, 6 months here,2 months thr etc... if you know me you know that i am not a bad person nor am a shady, or anyhting of that nature. but sometimes you are forced to make decision, they mite not be the best ones but you gota make them in order to get by. the way i grew up i ddnt have a lot of choices or options so sometime i had to do what i had to do to eat or help out the family.But one thing i never did was steal form anyone.

i can stand ppl that steal from others who work hard to provide for there families just to have it ripped away by some jack ass who is to lazy to go out there and get his hustle on to make his own money. i consider those ppl just as bad as rapist and pedophiles. a thief is a thief whether he steals a dollar or a thousand dollars... skum that should be hung for what they do


and i agree with g6civcx. RESPECT was the biggest part of my upbringing. respect those who respect you, and dont do anything to loose that respect. but a line is has to be drawn. if your "homies or boys" ask you to do something that you know is wrong and disrespectful, in order to gain there "respect", then you have just lost all yours and have no right to get mad when someone disrespects you.

i.e.....one of my little cousin was dating some kid who thot he was hard cuz he had a couple tats and was from the "hood"..they ended up braking up he got mad and put his hand on my little cousin. he got the shit kicked out of him by my older cousin(her bother). this kid tells his big brother what happened. he goes over to my cousins house to pick a fight, my aunt tries to tell him to leave but he tried to force his way into the house. in the process he give my aunt a black eye. my cousin ended up beating his ass and in the proces he fractured his skull and created a blood clot in his brain, the guy later died in the hospital . he was charged with manslaughter. he is now serving 18 years to life for this. he is by no means a bad person, never been arrested, but was forced to make a decision due to someones disrespect

g6civcx

RESPECT.

You can take all my money and force me out of my house IF you do it respectfully. I have no beef with you. It's just life. You're just doing your job. I'll start over.

If you take one penny from me with disrespect, it makes me very upset.

It's not what you do; it's how you treat people.

There's the law in the courtroom and there's a law on the street.

Some people feel that you get respect by intimidation and disrespecting people. All that does is just make people fear you for the moment. In the long run they all hate you.

You get respect by giving respect. You respect your subordinates, your peers, and your superior. You can disagree and should, but always do so with respect.

That's how you get respect.

sw20>>s14

personally, i dont mind associating or interacting with "criminals" unless if it gets too personal or business related...call me a dick, but i will draw a line when it comes to social background...everyone breaks laws, but the fact that someone spent "hard" time in jail demonstrates that they were either brazen enough or stupid enough to get caught...or the crime was of high enough magnitude to demand great attention (murder, rape, etc.)...that is someone i do not want to take it to the next level with (in terms of relationships/friendships)...

of course i realize there are exceptions such as court dates, duis, tax, etc etc etc...

"a smart man learns from his mistakes...a clever man learns from others mistakes"

but to stay on hyperteks topic...i wouldnt treat them any different from the queen of england...they deserve your respect...maybe not your trust, but definitely respect...

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inertiadrft

Well, one thing is that when you have known someone for a long time, good friends lets say, and he is a successful criminal, do you see them as your friend, or a criminal?
And what if you are both successful criminals, are you bussiness partners or just plain criminals?
Bottom line, sometimes people forget that they are actual criminals, or that your friend is a criminal, and the line becomes blurred, and thats when shit happends.. LOl

HyperTek

that story about just getting in a fight is pretty crazy and i can understand that.. i can imagine me getting into a fight and everything going south from there.. makes me think about those times when your friends go "hey you got my back right?" over some stupid shit that happens at a club or something silly, its not worth it lol.

our media kind of glorifies the action of hustle and violence like its the thing to do.

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^^^ Definetely. I think a lot of people just think that if they beat someone up that wronged them, in the slightest way, they will be applauded and high 5's all around and junk.

I am a big thinker, like if something happens, I figure out what to do about it by thinking it out, and weighing the possible outcome and consequences. Although some people react quickly on instinct, I beleive a lot of people resort to violence, to be "cool".

Example: I pulled up and parked on my street one day, and saw this dude on a bike with a guitar sticking out of his back pack. From what I seen, it resembled one of my dad's. So I run in my house, and look for said guitar, and what do you know? It's gone. I'm pissed, so I take off in my car to find this guy, (which, from what I could see, resembled my neighbor). Anyways, to make a long story short, I catch him when he returns home, (holding a bag with three beers in it), and I let myself in his house behind him. I am sure that he took it, and sold it, but instead of bashing his face in, (which did cross my mind), I had a discussion with him, (by the way, he is hispanic and speaks minimal English, while I am 100% white). Anyways, after about 15 mins of me trying to communicate with him, and him constantly touching my arm and calling me, "papa", (WTF!!!???), I got him to get into my car, and show me where he took the guitar. It turns out, he sold it to a smoke shop for $20, and bought some beer. Anyways, I didn't hit him, I got the guitar back, and his stupid butt went to jail. One thing that really pissed me off though, was that this guy had just lost his job, is 25 years old, and he's married to a lady that has 3 kids, an 18 year old, a 14 year old, and a 10 year old, (none of which belong to him). The mom works at Carl's Jr. Needless to say, this is a very low income family. Anyways, he steals my guitar, sells it for $20, and buys beer!!!!??? WTF!!! Not groceries for the kids, but beer!!!???? That pissed me off. If he had came to me, and asked for some grocery money for the kids, I would've gladly given it to him, but all he can think about is getting drunk. It really boggles my mind how some people think.

Anyways, when certain friends heard about this, through other friends, who had heard through other friends, and so on, it had blown up into this crazy scenario. This is what one of my friends said that he had heard:

"Some guy broke into your house, stole your dads guitar," Blah blah blah.
"You chased him down, beat the fugg out of him, hogg tied him, and through him in your trunk". Blah blah blah.

Not at all what happened. It just goes to show that most people think it's cool to beat the hell out of someone, for any little thing. Granted, this was a very expensive guitar, which would seemingly give me the right to go crazy on that motha fupp, as I'm sure most people would have.

I could've beat his face in, and threw him in my trunk, but where would that've landed me???
I am proud of myself, that I was able to stay pretty calm, and not punch this dude out. It's all because of thinking about the outcome:

A.) I could kill him, but then I'll go to prison for the rest of my life. (Atleast people will think I'm cool though, for a little while).

B.) I could break his bones, and possibly go to jail. (Atleast people will think I'm cool though, for a little while).

C.) I could convince him to show me where he took it, get it back, and send him to some AA meetings or something, so he can get some help. (People might not think I'm that cool though).

I choose... C. *DING DING DING* We have a winner.

So, in conclusion:

I may not be the 'Baddest Dawg' around, but I got my guitar back, I didn't go to jail, and that guy hasn't come back around here since.
So, I think I win dude.

Sorry if my story is a little long.
~Cody