94cc0rd

I rode along with a guy named Steve. (dunno if he's on zilvia) He drives a green s14 kouki with a KA, upgraded clutch, tomei 2way lsd. He was really nice and explained basic stuff.

One thing I got the hang of towards the end of the event was to stay on the throttle with the KA.

The instructor told me to try using the e-brake method and so everytime I pullled up the e-brake, i would forget to let it down so it screwed me up. So another guy, Mike with the white cressida, ghetto rigged my ebrake with 2 zip ties and some tape so that it would just fall down when it was pulled up... Helped a lot since I didn't have to focus on putting the brake down but I definately need to get a drift spin knob.

As for the camera, I had my camera with me and half way to the track I realized my battery was still on the charger at home... I really hope someone posts up a video of todays event and I can catch some of my spinning out action! lol

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95zilvia

This is gay, my car is gonna be all "fixed up", but it'll only be my second track event on the 19th, lol, don't laugh at me

Flybert

Having a fixed up car when you are just starting is fine. I don't know why you'd ever want to drift with a car that doesn't have stiff suspension. As for the motor, I think it's better to learn on a low power car because it helps you perfect your line, teaches you to be a leadfoot, and forces you to learn the balance of your car to intiate drift rather than relying on power to kick the rear end out.

94cc0rd

i definately learned the importance of initiating the drift.. i got the hang of that. i had a lot of trouble counter steering and pointing my front tires the direction i wanted to go...

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Flybert

Yeah, that comes with repeated practice. I remember when I first started, I learned to chuck the wheel into a countersteer as soon as I felt the rear kick out. That helped me out a lot. Eventually you just develop a feel and things start to happen naturally.

kris

I dont know I started out with a 240 that was crap (so rusty it now resides in a junk yard). Everything was stock-even the mushy suspension. This really helped me in the long run to learn to overcome the inconsistencys of a crappy machine and really helped my skill, plus the fact if I crashed I did not care too much-while trying to drift I think this goes for auto-xing too start slow and move up

I do agree starting out with power and no suspension is not the best of ideas, suspension should be first unless you just like to drag, but even then suspension will come into play eventually. First things I bought for my current car was suspension and I have had the SR in it for about 3 yrs now and finally just today I ordered a bigger turbo.

94cc0rd

what are the cheapest tires that are easiest to spin... obviously ones that don't chunk or whatever..

JD just announced that the Top Drift Rd. 4 is postponed to Sept 23. and the practice round is open to all levels on Sept. 9 @ the Oval.

So I'm looking for some cheap tires that are easy to spin... I was planning on getting some federal 595s cheap but i hear they are pretty grippy..

I have 1 pair of z32 n/a wheels on my rear right now with hankook ventus hrII with about 70% left and another pair of z32 n/a wheels that need tires...

I have 225/45/17 yoko es100 on 17" 350z wheels on the front of my car with plenty of tread left so I don't want to waste those... so i need something less grippy than the es100s. also, the z32 n/a wheels don't clear my megan coilovers up front so putting the 17"s on the rear and smoking those up are not an option.

Flybert

94ccord, go get some 205/55/16's for your z32 NA wheels that need tires or 205/50/16's if you don't mind some extra wheel gap at the track. The federals will work fine in that size for you. What size tires did you use out back at the last event and did you have a hard time spinning them?

Id RaThEr DrIfT

hey i never been to a track eithere and i really wanna go but what do u guys think about goingg with an open diff?
i have an sr basickly stock ...
if someone would envite me or go with me that would be great ! thanx guys! sometime in september sounds great ! lmk guys ill be looking foward to it

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Flybert

I would not go to a drift event with an open diff. It will piss you off big time and it will be very hard to drift. Get yourself a welded diff or a 2-way before you go out to a drift event. I was selling welded diffs to local drifters for a while but my dad (welder by trade) hurt himself in the backyard and is temporarily out of commission right now. He should be ok in the next few weeks though so hit me up if you need one.

94cc0rd

i was running 225/50/16 fm901s. with the es100 up front, the rears were grippier so i guess it made it harder but i couldn't really tell because i was too busy spinning out.. lol

the 205/50/16 federal 595s would be ok?

downshift_sideways

its always better to start with stock 240sx, get the road handle and feel of the car, then upgrade and adjust.

if you start with power, you end up relying on powering through corners and trns, and the fundimentals dont exist.

I'm a little track n00b myself. not that many events have I been too. but its always a learning process

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Flybert

Yeah, 205/50/16 federal 595 will work great. They'll be more responsive than those 225's and they'll spin way easier since your probably struggling to keep the revs up high with those tires. You will have more wheel gap but that really doesnt matter at the track, especially when you are learning.

cfrost

I'd pick buying track time first over buying a 2way or welding your diff....drifting on an open diff with an S13/14 or ae86 isn't as hard as everyone says it is and overcoming it being harder to drift with will make you a better driver in the longrun IMO

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Flybert

Learning to drift on a stock suspension/open diff car takes longer to learn on and leaves you with useless pairs of tire. Period. I did my first event (dd10) ever on open diff and coilovers. Frustrated me so much. I killed one tire faster than the other and ended the day faster than if i was spinning two tires. I came back the next event at buttonwillow with a tomei 2 way and my bride seats and drove so much better. Here is a pic from that event. This was in february of 2004 at the first official Just Drift event at buttonwillow in third gear at about 60mph on my second event. Stock KA on 195/55/15 es100's all around.



A consisitant diff will give you a lot more confidence, make you learn quicker, and won't be gay to drift on. I'll try to get some more people to come in here and comment on this subject because I know that most experienced drifters agree with me on this one. Cfrost is experienced but I just don't agree with him at all on this one.

94cc0rd

how much do open diffs usually go for? are they common on the zilvia for sale section?

also, Aspec Logan says that the federal 595s dont come in 205/55/16. I'm assuming the 535s will be ok, probably easier to spin?

dans

My regards to the members of this forum.

I recently sold my VW and have just bought a 240 in the intrest of finding a car that lends itself better to being a street/track hybrid fun car. As such I have been looking around at all the forums that cater to 240s and like what I've found here.

I think much of the advice is simply spot on and shows some real world, hard core, no BS tudes. I like that.