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ZilviaBot · 09-24-2008, 02:50 PM

09-24-2008 02:58 PM

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A Florida man named Scott Weires has canceled the order for his long-awaited Nissan GT-R. Why? It's not that he was disappointed in the car's performance credentials, far from it. The problem is that the GT-R is equipped with a 'black box', similar in theory to the kind found on airplanes to help determine what went wrong in case of an accident or breakdown. By the end of 2012, car buyers won't have a choice as to whether their new car is equipped with a 'black box,' or Electronic Data Recorder -- they will be federally mandated to carry one. These devices track information that could be useful to the manufacturer in determining exactly what is, or has been, going on with a car. There are a few worries, though, that warranty claims could be denied if the automaker, Nissan in this case, deems that the car was being raced or abused in some way or by police or lawyers to determine culpability. Nissan's GT-R carries an on-board recorder that keeps track of the past few day's worth of driving and cannot be disabled. In the case of Scott Weires, an attorney no less, that was enough to look elsewhere. Would it be for you?

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DOOK · 09-24-2008, 03:57 PM

just another freedom going down the shitter...

allntrlundrgrnd · 09-24-2008, 04:07 PM

i guess he planned on ripping it

rc1honda · 10-01-2008, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by allntrlundrgrnd

i guess he planned on ripping it

Who the hell buys a GTR and plans on not ripping it. The car is made to race and to go fast. Another BS thing about the GTR is that it is speed limited to like 115MPH or something until you get on racetrack. When you get to the track a satelite signal takes of the speed restrictor. Thats crap, who wants to spend 100,000 dollars on a car that acts like your mom. I honestly love the GTR but cmon Nissan what the hell are you guys thinking..

jandysil80 · 10-01-2008, 03:53 PM

fuck the GTR

Jimmy Up · 10-01-2008, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jandysil80

fuck the GTR

YOU TAKE THAT BACK!

haha, what kind of guy cancels his GTR order?

***S14DB*** · 10-01-2008, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by slidin_W.O.P

YOU TAKE THAT BACK!

haha, what poonjab cancels his GTR order?

I hope you meant to punch in the poon and not the racial slur...

The Saint · 01-14-2009, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by slidin_W.O.P

YOU TAKE THAT BACK!

haha, what kind of guy cancels his GTR order?

The same consumer who can buy a Porshit, C7 Vette, Viper GTS.
And not go threw that invasive expirence.
that is a watchdog swstem plane and simple.
they a blowing trannys left and right and they know it.
So they used the data tracker to duck out of fixing it.
Just like Onstar (REPO STAR).
You notice that it is not optional.
Buy a Motorex converted Skyline used.
Or import a R33 GT-R.

ROUGE180 · 12-26-2008, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jandysil80

fuck the GTR

*gasp* how dare you!! I know where you live Jandy lol.. Fuck launch control and trans that costs 1/5 of what the car is worth. Still a sweet car.. Power House Amuse... mmmmmmm

muddafakka · 10-01-2008, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rc1honda

Another BS thing about the GTR is that it is speed limited to like 115MPH or something until you get on racetrack. When you get to the track a satelite signal takes of the speed restrictor. Thats crap, who wants to spend 100,000 dollars on a car that acts like your mom.

Only Japanese GT-Rs are like that...

As for what ryguy said about the black boxes, I really hope he's right because if it's monitoring your actions all the time, well I can't say I like that one bit.

drift freaq · 10-01-2008, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rc1honda

Who the hell buys a GTR and plans on not ripping it. The car is made to race and to go fast. Another BS thing about the GTR is that it is speed limited to like 115MPH or something until you get on racetrack. When you get to the track a satelite signal takes of the speed restrictor. Thats crap, who wants to spend 100,000 dollars on a car that acts like your mom. I honestly love the GTR but cmon Nissan what the hell are you guys thinking..

Wow you fail at reading and really knowing about the GTR. The U.S. GTR's are not speed limited to 115mph thats the Japanese ones.
Plus I know people that have bought them and its not like you can't drive or go fast. That lawyer in Florida is a typical lying lawyer. So of course he is going to whine and complain. Get your facts about the car before posting.

This thread is so full of fail! In fact its a fail to start.

KAT0 · 09-24-2008, 04:17 PM

This should be interesting. Although I don't think it'd matter if they'll come mandatory in 2012 vehicles since the world's coming to an end around that time.

Besides, it doesn't say anything about it being absolutely mandatory in the older cars- just cars coming off the lot.

drift freaq · 09-24-2008, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KAT0

This should be interesting. Although I don't think it'd matter if they'll come mandatory in 2012 vehicles since the world's coming to an end around that time.

Besides, it doesn't say anything about it being absolutely mandatory in the older cars- just cars coming off the lot.

Ah your another one of those conspiracy theory nuts. The world is not ending in 2012 and if you think it is you need to go back to school and study science and get the fuck off the internet.Its not and any idiot who thinks it is is a uneducated fool.

Oh but back to the stupid fucking lawyer canceling his order because of a black box. Ya that proves that lawyer is one lying son of bitch that cannot be trusted like most lawyers. why else would he be worried about. LOL serves his ass right. hahahhahahhahhahha

murda-c · 09-24-2008, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by drift freaq

Ah your another one of those conspiracy theory nuts. The world is not ending in 2012 and if you think it is you need to go back to school and study science and get the fuck off the internet.Its not and any idiot who thinks it is is a uneducated fool.

how would the world ending be a conspiracy?

I don't see who would conspire to end the world....

KAT0 · 09-24-2008, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by drift freaq

Ah your another one of those conspiracy theory nuts. The world is not ending in 2012 and if you think it is you need to go back to school and study science and get the fuck off the internet.Its not and any idiot who thinks it is is a uneducated fool.

Oh but back to the stupid fucking lawyer canceling his order because of a black box. Ya that proves that lawyer is one lying son of bitch that cannot be trusted like most lawyers. why else would he be worried about. LOL serves his ass right. hahahhahahhahhahha

Gawd, no. Far from it. I was actually mocking those who were as well.

Temple240 · 09-24-2008, 04:26 PM

Just another oem part that needs to be cracked and removed.

bardabe · 09-24-2008, 07:43 PM

big fuckin deal put a standalone in the car. done. that's what haltech did. and they ran 11's if im not mistaken. lol

HYPNOTIK · 12-29-2008, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by bardabe

big fuckin deal put a standalone in the car. done. that's what haltech did. and they ran 11's if im not mistaken. lol

And they also blew thier shit up if I'm not mistaken.

***S14DB*** · 09-24-2008, 07:49 PM

How soon before piggy back units that fake the box out to read 55mph and 3500rpm all day come out?

bardabe · 09-24-2008, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by S14DB

How soon before piggy back units that fake the box out to read 55mph and 3500rpm all day come out?

prolly a few months lol

IIIXziuR · 09-24-2008, 08:30 PM

Another Reason why 240s are cooler.....

***Future240*** · 09-24-2008, 09:07 PM

So he is here by declared a lame ass tard

ryguy · 09-24-2008, 09:23 PM

From what I understand the "black boxes" the government is mandating only record information five seconds before an airbag deployment, and can be disconnected. They're already in a lot of new cars (all GM and Ford? All California cars? I couldnt find anything definitive.)

twotoes · 09-25-2008, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ryguy

From what I understand the "black boxes" the government is mandating only record information five seconds before an airbag deployment, and can be disconnected.

dude, i seriously pray that your right cause.....damn

Jimmy Up · 10-01-2008, 05:55 PM

Racial slur?

Ill change it but I am not even aware of this one...

ChiSleepyEyes · 12-21-2008, 11:50 AM

there is a way around everything
everyone has their panties in a bundle
but cmon, it will be worked out...

Om1kron · 12-26-2008, 07:56 PM

the more you know!

DataXUnknown · 12-27-2008, 01:26 AM

I don't see how it "can't be removed". Anything can be removed. Snip some wires, saulder some wires, shrink wrap some wires, and move on. Maybe a little ECU tweaking, standalone...etc.

Oh well, I bet he just resorted to an SL65 AMG, or an M6, like all attorneys and lawyers get.

***Future240*** · 12-27-2008, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DataXUnknown

I don't see how it "can't be removed". Anything can be removed. Snip some wires, saulder some wires, shrink wrap some wires, and move on. Maybe a little ECU tweaking, standalone...etc.

Oh well, I bet he just resorted to an SL65 AMG, or an M6, like all attorneys and lawyers get.

All things which void that warranty and with a 20k tranny that may or may not break if you beat on it, yea.........black box all the way

Shift-240 · 12-27-2008, 09:59 AM

the gtr will soon be like a 240 at this rate.....LMFAO!

09-24-2008, 02:50 PM	#1
ZilviaBot Zilvia.net Bot Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 199 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Florida man cancels Nissan GT-R order due to 'black box' 09-24-2008 02:58 PM Filed under: Car Buying, Government/Legal, Safety, Tech, Supercars, Nissan *Click above for high-res gallery of the 2009 Nissan GT-R* A Florida man named Scott Weires has canceled the order for his long-awaited Nissan GT-R. Why? It's not that he was disappointed in the car's performance credentials, far from it. The problem is that the GT-R is equipped with a 'black box', similar in theory to the kind found on airplanes to help determine what went wrong in case of an accident or breakdown. By the end of 2012, car buyers won't have a choice as to whether their new car is equipped with a 'black box,' or Electronic Data Recorder -- they will be federally mandated to carry one. These devices track information that could be useful to the manufacturer in determining exactly what is, or has been, going on with a car. There are a few worries, though, that warranty claims could be denied if the automaker, Nissan in this case, deems that the car was being raced or abused in some way or by police or lawyers to determine culpability. Nissan's GT-R carries an on-board recorder that keeps track of the past few day's worth of driving and cannot be disabled. In the case of Scott Weires, an attorney no less, that was enough to look elsewhere. Would it be for you? Gallery: In the Autoblog Garage: 2009 Nissan GT-R [Source: AutoWeek] ReadÂ\|ÂPermalinkÂ\|ÂEmail thisÂ\|ÂComments More...

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KAT0 Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: West Hartford, CT Age: 34 Posts: 104 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	This should be interesting. Although I don't think it'd matter if they'll come mandatory in 2012 vehicles since the world's coming to an end around that time. Besides, it doesn't say anything about it being absolutely mandatory in the older cars- just cars coming off the lot. __________________ myspace.com/rafcotto *-Semper Fi-*

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bardabe Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SoCal Age: 31 Posts: 4,716 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: bardabe Feedback Score: 10 reviews	big fuckin deal put a standalone in the car. done. that's what haltech did. and they ran 11's if im not mistaken. lol __________________ Review Thread

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jandysil80 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: maryland Posts: 231 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	fuck the GTR

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Temple240 Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: philly/ collegeville Age: 32 Posts: 101 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Just another oem part that needs to be cracked and removed.

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ryguy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chicago Suburbs Age: 32 Posts: 1,544 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	From what I understand the "black boxes" the government is mandating only record information five seconds before an airbag deployment, and can be disconnected. They're already in a lot of new cars (all GM and Ford? All California cars? I couldnt find anything definitive.) __________________

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DataXUnknown Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mission Viejo, CA Age: 31 Posts: 2,934 Trader Rating: (30) Rides Gallery: DataXUnknown Feedback Score: 30 reviews	I don't see how it "can't be removed". Anything can be removed. Snip some wires, saulder some wires, shrink wrap some wires, and move on. Maybe a little ECU tweaking, standalone...etc. Oh well, I bet he just resorted to an SL65 AMG, or an M6, like all attorneys and lawyers get.

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