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roco · 06-10-2009, 06:11 PM

just a couple cages i made over the last few weeks,

honda civic grip car
Full custom mandrel bent cage. 1 7/8 tube

large floor plates welded to three different planes
to spread the load for maximum strength.

large front floor plates and some weld shots.

honda crx grip car

fitment

DisEpyon · 06-10-2009, 07:33 PM

nice cages, your fitment is very good.

What kind of tube bender are you using, if you don't mind me asking?

roco · 06-11-2009, 02:55 AM

thanks, im using a jd2 model 3 bender, cant fault it in fairness, wana convert it to hydraulic tho,

dsc4130 · 06-12-2009, 02:11 AM

i finally have something to contribute (hahaha i love this thread) modifoed a friends dump tube into a scremer pipe
im very happy with it considering have a broken collar bone and have really no movement in my right arm, and im right handed haha

and i had to grind down the welds cuase i didnt have gas so they werent the prettiest tho i tried

blairellis642 · 06-14-2009, 07:15 PM

Now I can officially join you guys in this thread. Got this from my grandpa today. He bought it with the intention of using it and never really got around to it so he gave it to me. Needs to be cleaned up some but otherwise is in great shape! Tomorrow I'll call around and see if I can find a gas regulator and shielding gas tank.

Time to do some fabricating!

On welding cart my grandpa made:

blu808 · 06-14-2009, 07:31 PM

Engine is finally back in.

Fap fap fap fap

GSXRJJordan · 06-14-2009, 07:31 PM

^^^ Yeah, I've got to make a cart for mine. Last time I did the math on making one though, it's almost cheaper to buy one for $200.

Holy crap Luke, that's some major oil cooler action there. Hows clearance inside that passenger side tub with the turbo cutout?

blu808 · 06-14-2009, 07:39 PM

Has complete clearance. 3" or so at full lock.

GSXRJJordan · 06-14-2009, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blu808

Has complete clearance. 3" or so at full lock.

The badassery coming from your car, through the internet, to my computer, tickles my penis. How does that work?

Fab Question: My RB25 fuel rail has a kink at the feed, and it's bad enough to give me the heeby jeebies when I think about running it. As far as running an aftermarket rail, I'd have to swap to top-feed injectors, and it's not in the budget.

I have an Aeromotive FPR with -6an ports on it, what's the consensus on drilling the ends out of my stock fuel rail, welding some -6 steel fittings on the ends, and capping the factory feed/return ports? The ID of the rail seems just about perfect (just shy of 1/2")... anything I should know before I do this? Naturally, I'm going to pull the injectors out before I do anything, and get new O-rings before throwin em back in.

driftstyre · 06-15-2009, 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

I have an Aeromotive FPR with -6an ports on it, what's the consensus on drilling the ends out of my stock fuel rail, welding some -6 steel fittings on the ends, and capping the factory feed/return ports? The ID of the rail seems just about perfect (just shy of 1/2")... anything I should know before I do this? Naturally, I'm going to pull the injectors out before I do anything, and get new O-rings before throwin em back in.

make sure you grind off the layer of zinc coating on both the inside and outside of the rail where you are welding the fittings on.

GSXRJJordan · 06-15-2009, 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by driftstyre

make sure you grind off the layer of zinc coating on both the inside and outside of the rail where you are welding the fittings on.

That's what I'm talkin about! I totally wouldn't have thought to grind the inside... thanks Bill!

This seemed like a super "chancy" thing to try, but apparently V8 guys do this all the time (-an fittings on stock rails)... I guess it's not as far out as I first thought.

GSXRJJordan · 06-16-2009, 11:26 PM

Fuel Rail Mods

So I was totally fine keeping the stock rail and using a Nismo FPR adapter ($40

) to connect my Aeromotive FPR to the rail... even though it's a pain since the Nismo FPR has a 5/16" push-on fitting while the Aeromotive has 1/2" NPT->-6an fittings on it... until I saw this kink in the feed...

This was the straw that 'broke the fuel rails back' - I decided to cut the feed/return tubes off, weld in blockoff pieces, and weld on some -6an fittings.

Cut the tubes off with a Sawzall, then grinded (ground?) the 'stubs' down and punched/drilled 3/8" holes in the endcaps:

Took some more material off the "edge" and per Bill's suggestion, got in there with the air die and took the coating off the inside as best as I could:

First fitting and block-off piece welded on:

Let me take this opportunity to say how much zinc SUCKS - as you can see in the pics, I took it down to bare metal all over where I was working, but as soon as I started to lay a bead, the white powder mess corrodes all over the place, and I had to wire-wheel it all down before laying another one... Was tricky, but all the welds looked good (good penetration and no gap) enough for me - also, no gas = splashing bits all over. They got taken off later...

Other end - showing how since the piece was so small, I had to weld one side, bend the flap over, then weld the other - I couldn't hold it to tack two sides lol. I cleaned this side up even more, and tried laying longer beads (for less stop/clean/restarts) - came out pretty much the same.

Everything grinded smooth (took FOREVER, but I love how my new air grinder can regulate speed - that and the fact that it was so much lighter than my big electric one made it much easier to do 'precision' grinding) and masked for primer:

Steel wooled...

... and primered!

Discuss.

Om1kron · 06-17-2009, 12:01 AM

wait.. you painted your injectors?

GSXRJJordan · 06-17-2009, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Om1kron

wait.. you painted your injectors?

Hahaha, no? The rail is masked off, and those are the removable aluminum caps below. Injectors are chillin in plastic baggies.

Mirage · 06-17-2009, 08:28 AM

A friend had a -6 steel weld on fitting brazed to his stock rail, you couldn't even tell it wasn't factory, especially after it was powdercoated.

Good effort though, plated stuff sucks for welding

drftmark · 06-17-2009, 10:09 AM

sr fuel rail with AN fittings on it

its fs if anyone is interested

atutt · 06-17-2009, 05:14 PM

A little more of the 1UZ-FE Twin turbo 5 Speed MKIII Supra I did a while back.

And before anyone asks about why I build the flat pipe like that.
I had no choice. Bosses choice not mine. I bitched about 10 times a day about doing it that way (Because it took so friggin long... ). Could have been done in a much easier fashion for sure.

Andrew Bohan · 06-17-2009, 07:28 PM

we picked up a 7" lcd monitor to use as a gauge cluster today

it's mounted to the CF panel we made, and connects to a VGA-RCA converter box, which is connected to the laptop, which is connected to the OBDII port, receiving all the sensor input and datalogging everything. and we can watch porn on it.

GSXRJJordan · 06-17-2009, 07:48 PM

Haha, porn while drifting? Too much stimulation!

mattro · 06-17-2009, 07:51 PM

^ nice porn is always great.

the best i ever made was some weak ass pvc gauge mounts,

and painted them.

all i did was take the pvc cut it drill some holes, run some bolts thu and ka blam! cheapo gauge mounts.

and yes that is my idea of a write up lol

onepuff · 06-17-2009, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Bohan

we picked up a 7" lcd monitor to use as a gauge cluster today

it's mounted to the CF panel we made, and connects to a VGA-RCA converter box, which is connected to the laptop, which is connected to the OBDII port, receiving all the sensor input and datalogging everything. and we can watch porn on it.

Any reason you guys went with a RCA monitor? There are plenty of cheap VGA LCD's out there. Resolution might not be that good when hooked up to the laptop. Might be ok for just gauges though i guess.

Andrew Bohan · 06-17-2009, 10:37 PM

we couldn't find any cheap VGA monitors, and nobody local had any idea what they even were

got a link?

GSXRJJordan · 06-18-2009, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Bohan

we couldn't find any cheap VGA monitors, and nobody local had any idea what they even were

got a link?

Yeah it like doubles the price, from around $100 to $200+.

The only problem I see is small text on the gauges possibly not being sharp.

Funny, I'm actually sketching out the template for my Kognition gauge panel with my new gauges right now... keeping the Autometer LFG Boost/Water Temp/Oil Pressure, and added Fuel Level and a Summit 3 3/8" 8k RPM Tach with a tiny shift light. 5" Tachs are for ricers, but I don't have to tell any of you that...

onepuff · 06-18-2009, 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Bohan

we couldn't find any cheap VGA monitors, and nobody local had any idea what they even were

got a link?

People selling their old ones here alot.
Classifieds - MP3Car.com

Look around on this site.
new 10.4 Desktop TFT LCD Monitor w Touch Screen + VGA

The screens can be found for under $200 easily especially if you don't need the touchscreen functionality.

You can find some more general info here.
LCD/Display - MP3Car.com

And there's always eBay

Here's mine in the radio spot. Pics are a little blurry but it's crystal clear in person. Using Nissan Data Scan to display gauges. If it wasn't a daily driver for me I would put a screen in the dash too. Worked great for me at the track to monitor water temps, etc.

You could also disassemble the monitor so it's mounted flush with your CF panel. Jeff is probably right though the text will just be a little blurry. Send me a PM if u have more questions.

GSXRJJordan · 06-18-2009, 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onepuff

...Here's mine in the radio spot. Pics are a little blurry but it's crystal clear in person. Using Nissan Data Scan to display gauges. If it wasn't a daily driver for me I would put a screen in the dash too. Worked great for me at the track to monitor water temps, etc.

You could also disassemble the monitor so it's mounted flush with your CF panel. Jeff is probably right though the text will just be a little blurry. Send me a PM if u have more questions.

That's fucking rad, I forgot you had the CarMac goin on. *Jealous*

onepuff · 06-18-2009, 11:38 AM

If only I could get my ass motivated enough to get the CAR on the road again. Such a slacker dammit!

*kingkilburn* · 06-18-2009, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattro

^ nice porn is always great.

the best i ever made was some weak ass pvc gauge mounts,

I would have made them into Duff cans. They look like the right size.

blu808 · 06-18-2009, 10:49 PM

F430 Diffuser installed.

GSXRJJordan · 06-19-2009, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blu808

F430 Diffuser installed.

No FUCKING Way...

That looks so unbelievably good. What are the dimensions of the diffuser?

silviaguy240 · 06-19-2009, 12:30 AM

Suposedly some guy my brother knows can get dent and scratch snapon welders for stuid cheap. So i will hopefully be getting one and will be able to contribute.

06-10-2009, 06:11 PM	#1861
roco Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: IRELAND Age: 35 Posts: 145 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	just a couple cages i made over the last few weeks, honda civic grip car Full custom mandrel bent cage. 1 7/8 tube large floor plates welded to three different planes to spread the load for maximum strength. large front floor plates and some weld shots. honda crx grip car fitment __________________ "Racing is life. Everything else that happens before or after is just waiting." ~Steve McQueen [Le Mans -1970]

06-11-2009, 02:55 AM	#1863
roco Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: IRELAND Age: 35 Posts: 145 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thanks, im using a jd2 model 3 bender, cant fault it in fairness, wana convert it to hydraulic tho, __________________ "Racing is life. Everything else that happens before or after is just waiting." ~Steve McQueen [Le Mans -1970]

06-12-2009, 02:11 AM	#1864
dsc4130 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: st.louis, MO Age: 33 Posts: 619 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i finally have something to contribute (hahaha i love this thread) modifoed a friends dump tube into a scremer pipe im very happy with it considering have a broken collar bone and have really no movement in my right arm, and im right handed haha and i had to grind down the welds cuase i didnt have gas so they werent the prettiest tho i tried __________________ I <3 jdmhookup

06-14-2009, 07:31 PM	#1866
blu808 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Campbell, Ca Age: 38 Posts: 5,010 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Engine is finally back in. Fap fap fap fap __________________

06-14-2009, 07:31 PM	#1867
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: << 626 >> Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	^^^ Yeah, I've got to make a cart for mine. Last time I did the math on making one though, it's almost cheaper to buy one for $200. Holy crap Luke, that's some major oil cooler action there. Hows clearance inside that passenger side tub with the turbo cutout? __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

06-10-2009, 07:33 PM	#1862
DisEpyon Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ? Posts: 574 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	nice cages, your fitment is very good. What kind of tube bender are you using, if you don't mind me asking?

06-14-2009, 07:15 PM	#1865
blairellis642 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Johnson City, TN Posts: 12 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Now I can officially join you guys in this thread. Got this from my grandpa today. He bought it with the intention of using it and never really got around to it so he gave it to me. Needs to be cleaned up some but otherwise is in great shape! Tomorrow I'll call around and see if I can find a gas regulator and shielding gas tank. Time to do some fabricating! On welding cart my grandpa made:

06-14-2009, 07:39 PM	#1868
blu808 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Campbell, Ca Age: 38 Posts: 5,010 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Has complete clearance. 3" or so at full lock. __________________

06-16-2009, 11:26 PM	#1872
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: << 626 >> Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Fuel Rail Mods So I was totally fine keeping the stock rail and using a Nismo FPR adapter ($40 ) to connect my Aeromotive FPR to the rail... even though it's a pain since the Nismo FPR has a 5/16" push-on fitting while the Aeromotive has 1/2" NPT->-6an fittings on it... until I saw this kink in the feed... This was the straw that 'broke the fuel rails back' - I decided to cut the feed/return tubes off, weld in blockoff pieces, and weld on some -6an fittings. Cut the tubes off with a Sawzall, then grinded (ground?) the 'stubs' down and punched/drilled 3/8" holes in the endcaps: Took some more material off the "edge" and per Bill's suggestion, got in there with the air die and took the coating off the inside as best as I could: First fitting and block-off piece welded on: Let me take this opportunity to say how much zinc SUCKS - as you can see in the pics, I took it down to bare metal all over where I was working, but as soon as I started to lay a bead, the white powder mess corrodes all over the place, and I had to wire-wheel it all down before laying another one... Was tricky, but all the welds looked good (good penetration and no gap) enough for me - also, no gas = splashing bits all over. They got taken off later... Other end - showing how since the piece was so small, I had to weld one side, bend the flap over, then weld the other - I couldn't hold it to tack two sides lol. I cleaned this side up even more, and tried laying longer beads (for less stop/clean/restarts) - came out pretty much the same. Everything grinded smooth (took FOREVER, but I love how my new air grinder can regulate speed - that and the fact that it was so much lighter than my big electric one made it much easier to do 'precision' grinding) and masked for primer: Steel wooled... ... and primered! Discuss. __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

06-17-2009, 12:01 AM	#1873
Om1kron Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 40 Posts: 6,879 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	wait.. you painted your injectors? __________________ Wayne

06-17-2009, 08:28 AM	#1875
Mirage Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 225 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	A friend had a -6 steel weld on fitting brazed to his stock rail, you couldn't even tell it wasn't factory, especially after it was powdercoated. Good effort though, plated stuff sucks for welding

06-17-2009, 10:09 AM	#1876
drftmark Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: tx Posts: 524 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	sr fuel rail with AN fittings on it its fs if anyone is interested

06-17-2009, 05:14 PM	#1877
atutt Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: barrie, ontario, canada Age: 35 Posts: 997 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	A little more of the 1UZ-FE Twin turbo 5 Speed MKIII Supra I did a while back. And before anyone asks about why I build the flat pipe like that. I had no choice. Bosses choice not mine. I bitched about 10 times a day about doing it that way (Because it took so friggin long... ). Could have been done in a much easier fashion for sure.

06-17-2009, 07:28 PM	#1878
Andrew Bohan Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Location: Location Posts: 8,330 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	we picked up a 7" lcd monitor to use as a gauge cluster today it's mounted to the CF panel we made, and connects to a VGA-RCA converter box, which is connected to the laptop, which is connected to the OBDII port, receiving all the sensor input and datalogging everything. and we can watch porn on it.

06-17-2009, 07:48 PM	#1879
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: << 626 >> Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Haha, porn while drifting? Too much stimulation! __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

06-17-2009, 07:51 PM	#1880
mattro Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: henrietta, ny Age: 32 Posts: 478 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	^ nice porn is always great. the best i ever made was some weak ass pvc gauge mounts, and painted them. all i did was take the pvc cut it drill some holes, run some bolts thu and ka blam! cheapo gauge mounts. and yes that is my idea of a write up lol

06-17-2009, 10:37 PM	#1882
Andrew Bohan Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Location: Location Posts: 8,330 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	we couldn't find any cheap VGA monitors, and nobody local had any idea what they even were got a link? Last edited by Andrew Bohan; 06-17-2009 at 11:38 PM..

06-18-2009, 11:38 AM	#1886
onepuff Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ohio Age: 42 Posts: 290 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	If only I could get my ass motivated enough to get the CAR on the road again. Such a slacker dammit!

06-18-2009, 10:49 PM	#1888
blu808 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Campbell, Ca Age: 38 Posts: 5,010 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	F430 Diffuser installed. __________________

06-19-2009, 12:30 AM	#1890
silviaguy240 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Delaware Age: 32 Posts: 3,719 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	Suposedly some guy my brother knows can get dent and scratch snapon welders for stuid cheap. So i will hopefully be getting one and will be able to contribute. __________________

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