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ZilviaBot · 12-27-2007, 10:10 PM

We're very torn about this one. In Japan, the new 2009 Nissan GT-R's are limited to a top speed of 112 mph (180 km/h). Which, quite frankly, is depressing. Remember though-- that's Japan only. American and European hoons are (supposedly) limited to 155 mph (250 km/h). Back in Japan, should you take your Godzilla to a track, the GPS doohickies tell the computer to remove the limiter. Makes sense, right? Limit the car to a moderate top speed on the road, and then unleash its full, city-smashing, Mothra-wrasslin' potential on the track. We have two major problems with that.

First of all, this is a Skyline. When the R32 left the factory, the engineers colored the governor yellow so that buyer's could easily locate it and rip it out, unlocking the engine's full and quite super potential. With the new GT-R, Nissan is doing a 180, and not just in kilometers per hour. According to reports, the ECU on the latest Skyline is is quite heavily encrypted and therefor not easily hacked. So, that's no good.
Our second gripe is all about Orwellian, Big Brother-type precedents. Yeah, how cute, when you get to the track you can go faster. We get it. But how long until this sort of technology filters down to the rest of us? As in you're in a 35 mph zone -- you can only go 35 mph. Never forget how O'Brien described the future to Winston Smith, "...a boot stamping on a human face forever." We may be hyperbolizin' and feeling a bit like the Red Rocker, but we're still shuddering. (You need to take a SOMA or something dude... - Ed.) [Gizmodo]

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azndoc · 12-27-2007, 10:13 PM

Yeah that's pretty fucked up.

Pretty soon i gotta ask permission to take a piss.

Oh wait nevermind did that in boot camp already.

It's sad though.

Taking such a nicely engineered car but not letting the motor breath like the way it was intended to.

hustlervibes · 12-28-2007, 02:43 AM

If it ever gets to the point where the computer governs your speed to the speed limit on the street you might as well have a fully automated car.

ALEXTHESUS*PECT · 12-28-2007, 02:49 AM

that shit really sucks! hopefully somene will learn to tune the ecu real quick and eliminate this problem.

usdm180sx · 12-28-2007, 02:51 AM

Ok we need the kid that hacked the iphone stat

firelizard · 12-28-2007, 10:01 AM

I heard in the US, you can only get the new Skyline with a contract through AT&T as well.

but seriously. governer = lame

Would this have something to do with an effort to snuff out wangan racing before the cars hit the streets?

allntrlundrgrnd · 12-28-2007, 12:11 PM

weaaak they really should call governors pussifiers

muddafakka · 12-28-2007, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by firelizard

Would this have something to do with an effort to snuff out wangan racing before the cars hit the streets?

I doubt it.

Damn car companies...they're so compelled to make their new cars so friggin' complicated.

GoodOl'S13 · 12-28-2007, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ALEXTHESUS*PECT

that shit really sucks! hopefully somene will learn to tune the ecu real quick and eliminate this problem.

Only a matter of time, I'm sure Top Secret, JUN or another japanese tuner will sell a 5k ecu that takes care of this. :ghey:

*Sonic Motor* · 12-28-2007, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodOl'S13

Only a matter of time, I'm sure Top Secret, JUN or another japanese tuner will sell a 5k ecu that takes care of this. :ghey:

for anothr 10k, u can get the matching FMIC, cams, and upgraded turbos too! haha

SimpleSexy180 · 12-28-2007, 02:09 PM

you guys remember the cars in IROBOT? always on auto. take it off auto and the government knows.

k's_silvia2.0 · 12-28-2007, 02:22 PM

HAHA that means most of us here can past it on a top speed run

SiI40sx · 12-28-2007, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by k's_silvia2.0

HAHA that means most of us here can past it on a top speed run

Haha we're gonna hear all kinds of sohc crx's talkin shit about how they smoked a new skyline with their non-vtec cars on the freeway

Anyway, this more likely, sounds like a business movement. A target for more revenue through very expensive keys that will unlock the cars full potential. Kinda like the Ipods how they can only carry mp4, mov, etc formats, and it so happens that apple conveniently recommends its "quick time pro" software to convert typical video formats, only for a small fee of $xx. Yeah, I think a lot of shit is getting shady just to make money off the public. High Demand? Find a way to screw the buyer.

usdm180sx · 12-28-2007, 04:21 PM

Just got back from Mitsuwa and saw the latest Option Mag. Mines, Amuse and a few others have already started evaluating the car.

PoorMans180SX · 12-28-2007, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SimpleSexy180

you guys remember the cars in IROBOT? always on auto. take it off auto and the government knows.

I will shoot myself before I let the gov get that involved in my life.

Governors are lame. If you're retarded enough to go too fast for the situation, you probably deserve to die in a fiery, metal-smashing crash.

Learn control. Learn discernment. Or go buy a Kia/Vovlo.

SR20d2fourT · 01-03-2008, 07:14 PM

I think cities will be against it just because of the amount of money they get from all the tickets issued. It gives cops something to do other than site side by side and talk shit.

Sucks for the new GT-R though. My S14 don't have that shit. :}

drift freaq · 01-03-2008, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiI40sx

Haha we're gonna hear all kinds of sohc crx's talkin shit about how they smoked a new skyline with their non-vtec cars on the freeway

Anyway, this more likely, sounds like a business movement. A target for more revenue through very expensive keys that will unlock the cars full potential. Kinda like the Ipods how they can only carry mp4, mov, etc formats, and it so happens that apple conveniently recommends its "quick time pro" software to convert typical video formats, only for a small fee of . Yeah, I think a lot of shit is getting shady just to make money off the public. High Demand? Find a way to screw the buyer.

huh what Cesar, Ipods will hold any kind of format you throw at them including a full operating system for your computer. I know people using older Ipods as boot drives for their computers.
Plus MP4 happens to be a superior format for film and music compression because its lossless. Do you know what that means? MP3's sound like shit because they are lossy. Do you want me to explain to you how lossy sucks? You are getting into conspiracy theories here Cesar, without any knowledge of formats, go have a beer.

To bring it back to Topic, Japan has always limited their cars in some form or another and the tuners have always figured ways around it. Used to be Highway top speeds in Japan were 60 kilometers an hour. I do not know what they are today but with that kind of limit on freeway speeds 112 mph is pretty fast, lol.
Oh and let us not forget that it used be back in the day of the old GTR's that HP was not supposed to be above 280HP. Now they are least not asking the car manufactures to adhere to that anymore.
I.E. who cares thats over there. lol Next subject.

xblack240x · 01-03-2008, 09:32 PM

In time some aftermarket ecu will come out... But for the time being this does suck... IROBOT cars, WOW... I'm keeping my s13 forever if thats the case...

yokotas13 · 01-03-2008, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drift freaq

huh what Cesar, Ipods will hold any kind of format you through at them including a full operating system for your computer. I know people using older Ipods as boot drives for their computers.
Plus MP4 happens to be a superior format for film and music compression because its lossless. Do you know what that means? MP3's sound like shit because they are lossy. Do you want me to explain to you how lossy sucks? You are getting into conspiracy theories here Cesar, without any knowledge of formats, go have a beer.

To bring it back to Topic, Japan has always limited their cars in some form or another and the tuners have always figured ways around it. Used to be Highway top speeds in Japan were 60 kilometers an hour. I do not know what they are today but with that kind of limit on freeway speeds 112 mph is pretty fast, lol.
Oh and let us not forget that it used be back in the day of the old GTR's that HP was not supposed to be above 280HP. Now they are least not asking the car manufactures to adhere to that anymore.
I.E. who cares thats over there. lol Next subject.

alot are 60-80KPH

i routinely stay at 140

*S13Boosts* · 01-03-2008, 11:47 PM

wtf...

one of my fam members is gonna grab one when its on the market but 155?

HyperTek · 01-04-2008, 12:06 PM

im sorry but those writers are fagshits.. go complain to nissan for giving us a sweet ass car.. might as well complain for airbags and not factory equiped race steering wheels.. that stuff is there for safety concerns... imagine how many kid teens are going to kill themselves when they take daddys gtr out for a ride and the familys trying to sue nissan.. and this probably helps keep the insurance down.. they sound like fanboys calling it the skyline anways... let people alter/remove it and then have a reason to void the warrentee..

HyperTek · 01-04-2008, 04:43 PM

how many cars on the street have speed governors ? forreal is everyone just upset this car comes with one? i just got a negative rep for my opinion.. but forreal a speed governor is not that big of a deal.. Typical 240sx cant go past 112 or so thats about simular to the 180kmh.

this site is a freaking joke, they are ranting about an airbag becuase of its shape
http://jalopnik.com/340866/the-big-a...u-your-dignity

*Yuri* · 01-08-2008, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SimpleSexy180

you guys remember the cars in IROBOT? always on auto. take it off auto and the government knows.

I've got the cure.

Who wants to set up camp in underground San Angeles?

remety · 01-08-2008, 03:39 PM

How are you supposed to break that bitch in?

johngriff · 01-08-2008, 04:23 PM

Do not fear.

Soon, so soon.

A new Haltech Ecu, Beyond the measure of any previous Stand Alone will be released.

Will plug into the New Skyline.

Happiness will be attained.

bardabe · 01-11-2008, 08:01 PM

lol haltech ftmfw

12-27-2007, 10:10 PM	#1
ZilviaBot Zilvia.net Bot Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 199 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	JDM Godzillas Unlock Top Speed Only at the Track [News] We're very torn about this one. In Japan, the new 2009 Nissan GT-R's are limited to a top speed of 112 mph (180 km/h). Which, quite frankly, is depressing. Remember though-- that's Japan only. American and European hoons are (supposedly) limited to 155 mph (250 km/h). Back in Japan, should you take your Godzilla to a track, the GPS doohickies tell the computer to remove the limiter. Makes sense, right? Limit the car to a moderate top speed on the road, and then unleash its full, city-smashing, Mothra-wrasslin' potential on the track. We have two major problems with that. First of all, this is a Skyline. When the R32 left the factory, the engineers colored the governor yellow so that buyer's could easily locate it and rip it out, unlocking the engine's full and quite super potential. With the new GT-R, Nissan is doing a 180, and not just in kilometers per hour. According to reports, the ECU on the latest Skyline is is quite heavily encrypted and therefor not easily hacked. So, that's no good. Our second gripe is all about Orwellian, Big Brother-type precedents. Yeah, how cute, when you get to the track you can go faster. We get it. But how long until this sort of technology filters down to the rest of us? As in you're in a 35 mph zone -- you can only go 35 mph. Never forget how O'Brien described the future to Winston Smith, "...a boot stamping on a human face forever." We may be hyperbolizin' and feeling a bit like the Red Rocker, but we're still shuddering. (You need to take a SOMA or something dude... - Ed.) [Gizmodo] More...

12-28-2007, 02:49 AM	#4
ALEXTHESUSPECT Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Soul cal!! Age: 43 Posts: 4,387 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: ALEXTHESUSPECT Feedback Score: 5 reviews	that shit really sucks! hopefully somene will learn to tune the ecu real quick and eliminate this problem. __________________ *TEAM SUSPECT**

12-28-2007, 02:51 AM	#5
usdm180sx Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 562 Posts: 4,807 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: usdm180sx Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Ok we need the kid that hacked the iphone stat __________________ -Norm!

12-28-2007, 10:01 AM	#6
firelizard Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba Age: 32 Posts: 705 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: firelizard Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I heard in the US, you can only get the new Skyline with a contract through AT&T as well. but seriously. governer = lame Would this have something to do with an effort to snuff out wangan racing before the cars hit the streets? __________________

12-28-2007, 12:11 PM	#7
allntrlundrgrnd Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Astoria, OR Posts: 2,460 Trader Rating: (17) Rides Gallery: allntrlundrgrnd Feedback Score: 17 reviews	weaaak they really should call governors pussifiers __________________ Kouki for sale!!

12-27-2007, 10:13 PM	#2
azndoc Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles Age: 39 Posts: 9,487 Trader Rating: (47) Rides Gallery: azndoc Feedback Score: 47 reviews	Yeah that's pretty fucked up. Pretty soon i gotta ask permission to take a piss. Oh wait nevermind did that in boot camp already. It's sad though. Taking such a nicely engineered car but not letting the motor breath like the way it was intended to.

12-28-2007, 02:43 AM	#3
hustlervibes Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southern California Rep Power: ∞ Age: 32 Posts: 2,453 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If it ever gets to the point where the computer governs your speed to the speed limit on the street you might as well have a fully automated car.

12-28-2007, 02:09 PM	#11
SimpleSexy180 Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cal Posts: 4,750 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: SimpleSexy180 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	you guys remember the cars in IROBOT? always on auto. take it off auto and the government knows.

12-28-2007, 02:22 PM	#12
k's_silvia2.0 Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: 909/951 Age: 35 Posts: 5,111 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	HAHA that means most of us here can past it on a top speed run __________________

12-28-2007, 04:21 PM	#14
usdm180sx Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 562 Posts: 4,807 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: usdm180sx Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Just got back from Mitsuwa and saw the latest Option Mag. Mines, Amuse and a few others have already started evaluating the car. __________________ -Norm!

01-03-2008, 07:14 PM	#16
SR20d2fourT Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Earth Age: 34 Posts: 403 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think cities will be against it just because of the amount of money they get from all the tickets issued. It gives cops something to do other than site side by side and talk shit. Sucks for the new GT-R though. My S14 don't have that shit. :} __________________ My opinion gives me redboxes

01-03-2008, 09:32 PM	#18
xblack240x Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bay Area Posts: 555 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	In time some aftermarket ecu will come out... But for the time being this does suck... IROBOT cars, WOW... I'm keeping my s13 forever if thats the case...

01-03-2008, 11:47 PM	#20
S13Boosts Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: VEGAS Posts: 5,292 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	wtf... one of my fam members is gonna grab one when its on the market but 155?

01-04-2008, 12:06 PM	#21
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,222 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	im sorry but those writers are fagshits.. go complain to nissan for giving us a sweet ass car.. might as well complain for airbags and not factory equiped race steering wheels.. that stuff is there for safety concerns... imagine how many kid teens are going to kill themselves when they take daddys gtr out for a ride and the familys trying to sue nissan.. and this probably helps keep the insurance down.. they sound like fanboys calling it the skyline anways... let people alter/remove it and then have a reason to void the warrentee.. __________________ Keep it Classy

01-04-2008, 04:43 PM	#22
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,222 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	how many cars on the street have speed governors ? forreal is everyone just upset this car comes with one? i just got a negative rep for my opinion.. but forreal a speed governor is not that big of a deal.. Typical 240sx cant go past 112 or so thats about simular to the 180kmh. this site is a freaking joke, they are ranting about an airbag becuase of its shape http://jalopnik.com/340866/the-big-a...u-your-dignity __________________ Keep it Classy

01-08-2008, 03:39 PM	#24
remety Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wake Forest Age: 33 Posts: 115 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	How are you supposed to break that bitch in?

01-08-2008, 04:23 PM	#25
johngriff Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 4,103 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: johngriff Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Do not fear. Soon, so soon. A new Haltech Ecu, Beyond the measure of any previous Stand Alone will be released. Will plug into the New Skyline. Happiness will be attained. __________________ [email protected]

01-11-2008, 08:01 PM	#26
bardabe Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SoCal Age: 31 Posts: 4,716 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: bardabe Feedback Score: 10 reviews	lol haltech ftmfw __________________ Review Thread

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