lewisfk

Im in the military and this makes me question why i do this shit! There are more corrupt people in the government! Follow those sanduskys who bankrupted our government, and took bail outs! Thats my oppinon, but how much of the above stated is true? What would make the FBI do this?

kingkilburn

The ability to is all the reason they've ever needed.

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HalveBlue

Not really.

The FBI doesn't have enough resources to focus on everybody all the time. If the FBI is spending time using this technology to track you, there's a long list of things that you must have done to arouse their attention.

Like the defendant in the Supreme Court ruling that I linked to. That guy wasn't you average Joe Schmoe. Homeboy was lugging around 50 keys of coke. The FBI arrested him when he met up with his buddy who was sitting on another 100 keys.

Hmm...a nightclub owner and his friend sitting on $2-3 million worth of cocaine.

Yeah, I'm sure that guy didn't attract any attention...any attention, at all.

kingkilburn

I'm not saying they are tracking everybody.

I'm saying that the FBI would skirt legality in their quest for evidence and a collar because they can.



Just like any other powerful group, they will always be on the hunt for more power. I don't blame them for it but the system is not setup in a way that tries to balance this behavior out. We have to wait for a judge to rule it out in court which means that tons of people have already gone to jail based on evidence that should never have been admissible.

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nomoremk2

Sounds like were only getting half the story to me. I'm sure the FBI doesn't go around planting gps devices for fun. They had a reason. If it was under false pretense, so be it, they messed up. All you guys freaking out about freedom this and warrant that. I don't understand why you're so paranoid? It's pretty easy to stay off the list of people being watched. Atleast that's how I feel. I can understand feeling violated but honestly, i don't see it as that big of a threat. Most people I know give out so much information on facebook anyone could track and kill them if they wanted to.

kingkilburn

It's not about what reason they do or don't have. They absolutely must follow the rules or why are we giving up our own power and authority to them?

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nomoremk2

What rules are you referring to? From what I read earlier gps devices are fair game by law for them now. Unless I misread that or that's not what you're talking about.

kingkilburn

Reasonable search and seizure. If you want to tamper with my property you need to get a warrant. That has always been the case and just because some new piece of tech comes out that has no legal precedence yet(HUGE flaw with our legal system) doesn't mean that goes away.

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nomoremk2

Eh I see your point. I guess I just feel it's really easy to keep this from happening to you. I mean I definitely don't see the FBI taking interest in my life. If you're not doing anything wrong or posting blogs that contain a bunch of key words all the time I think you're ok.

kingkilburn

You shouldn't have to look over your shoulder for big brother.

At this point they can still infrared scan your house and use listening devices from afar without a warrant even with reasonable expectation of privacy in your own home.

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nomoremk2

I feel like that's extremely paranoid. I'm sure someone could do those things but I'm not giving them a reason to. I know I'm not looking over my shoulder for anything. You shouldn't be either. I don't think the FBI has the resources or cares enough to be monitoring people they don't feel they have to. It's unfortunate that being Middle Eastern already puts you in that radar.

kingkilburn

I'm not paranoid. I know they aren't watching me. That doesn't change the fact that they have to much power to monitor people.

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Walperstyle

as I said in the other thread man, You may not be paranoid, but you do worry about a lot of stuff that is beyond your control, has nothing to do with you, and probably never will.

If I had a government tracking device on my car, I would be honored to know that someone cares enough.

You can fear about government tracking, or racists all day, but I'd rather do some good in my community. I'd rather not worry about it unless it actually is a threat to my family's safety. Which it never will be; Because I'm not buying and selling illegal arms (yet).

...honestly, Kingkilburn, your life, and mine, are really not that interesting. The sooner you realize this, the sooner you can do some good in the community.

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kingkilburn

In all honesty and sincerity, fuck off.

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fliprayzin240sx

I think them not having a search warrant is the least of what anybody should be worried about. I'd be more worried about the National Defense Authorization Act getting signed into law...kiss your due process good-bye. Oh you're a "terrorist"...YOU GO TO GUANTAMO NOW!!!

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