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05-02-2011, 10:58 AM | #1 |
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Google search results are now officially garbage
Has anyone else noticed how crappy Google search results have become lately? The top results on the first page are now all bogus websites that are ranked higher due to SEO. Its been a good 10 year run (which is an eternity in the internet) but I think I may have to switch to Bing.
If you want to read more on it Three's a Trend: The Decline of Google Search Quality - Anil Dash
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05-02-2011, 11:44 AM | #4 |
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been years since its been "good" at least 5-6,, they have been using paid searches for quite a while. Pay 10-25 cents per click, and be on the top or near the top, my friend did this for womens' purses and made quite a lot of money.
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yea i have been noticing this lately
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What do you guys think Google could be doing better? Less spammy results?
What do you guys think Google's competition is doing better? Real talk.
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I actually have a suggestion/question for you daniel.
Is it possible to extract progress from shared GDocs? I have multiple projects shared, and I want to know who's adding what, at what times, and when. The GDocs do state when it was last accessed and by whom, but I'd want a more in-depth breakdown of contributions. Secondly, could integration of contacts, calendar and maps be done? I like arranging lunches with people but a simple reminder in calendar doesn't cut it. I'd like to sync my lunch into maps, to show where I'm eating, and with whom. Calendar reminds me, I follow the prompt and Maps opens up with a cue card "Lunch with [Contact Sync + Profile picture] @ 1230pm @HeffsBurgers" I think Google's horizonal expansion is what keeps me. I can update my calendar, maps, contacts and docs from one simple cloud-based point. The ways google integrates itself into itself is awesome. |
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You're also saying that search results are less relevant due to all the sites manipulating SEO? If so, this is one of the biggest challenges Google faces these days. Providing fresh, instant, relevant search results. Do any of you feel that Bing does a better job? If so, in what ways? Quote:
The integration you speak of is already a direction that Google is working towards. Cross app functionality, and seamless desktop+mobile integration. Stay tuned over the next 12-18 months. Lots of innovation on the way.
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05-02-2011, 09:59 PM | #12 |
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Now, about that Icecream...
I always feel bad for rooting my phone because of its open sourced nature. I know its a double-edged sword to do so, but I also feel that many aren't ready for the implementation of the idea. I run linux and understand its solely driven by like-minded individuals doing it on their spare time. In doing so, I try to donate when I can with what I can, "free as in speech, not free as in free beer." I actually buy apps as opposed to other rooters. What direction is Google heading towards/wanting to push on this issue? |
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Yep, i noticed that i get results leading to google merchant stores selling shit based in the search word i entered. Lame. Time to use something else.
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Also, I think Google would do better if it made its other beta projects be known. I don't think many people know about Scholar and Books. Also, is there a bulletin board for education in the works? I feel Google might want to consider taking a stab at the collegiate market, as they are the ones being hit with all the budget cuts and all.
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I just need a good search engine myself. I don't need it to butter my toast, wipe my ass or brush my teeth. It's actually getting on my nerves because i had my site reported with that Blocked Site crap last year, which kind of forced me to sign up with their googl analytics garbage. Time to make a decision this week.
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Very valid point. while I welcome the integration, I'm sure there are loads of folks that feel its too invasive. Simple, no-frills Google Search for some, miniature American flags for others!
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Google is taking the same direction it always has. Android is an open source platform. Users are free to modify, change customize whatever they like. It's a community driven community owned project. As for Android Market and the growing issues that developers are having to deal with trying to monetize their products, my team and I are working hard to address those issues today. We want to give developers the tools they need and educate them on how they can develop apps that have a high impact added value to our ecosystem and to Android Market. Quote:
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Google's interface is also getting annoying. The word completion is annoying, but I dealt with it. The instant results also became annoying, but atleast I could turn it off on the front page. Now they've berried the option to turn it off with multiple steps. The problem is that this is the default, so on every PC I'm on I have to do this. Does Google survey users besides their in house staff? I get the impression that they've surrounded themselves with a bunch of yes-men. Quote:
Finding pages that you remember something about is a pain. Recent example. I was trying to find a website I had bookmarked on another PC, but all I could remember was what it was about. It had reviews on the current sci-fi/fantasy TV shows that are airing. First I searched for "sci fi" tv shows. Nothing on the first 5 pages and bogus sites throughout. I remember they had a Fall Guide, so I tried science fiction tv shows fall guide. Same deal. Then finally with science fiction tv shows fall guide, it came up on the first page. That is annoying as fuck. I've never had to do so much work to get the results on Google. Going through 5 pages twice!? Geesh. And specifically that website that I was looking for was always on the first page of results, Axiom's Edge. Another problem is trying to find/discover new websites. I was looking for a good house music blog or news site to keep up with the latest in electronic music. Fuck. Good luck with any key word searches with that. They where all bogus blogs and sites. Annoying. Also, I'm tired of having search results "tailored" to my search location. Stop localizing my results unless I'm searching in the shopping section. I swear that the same search done in NY and one done in LA yield different search results, and I'm not referring to the ads. Why can't my location just be USA? Or why can't I turn it off? What if I'm using a proxy? Same goes for results when searching on my smart phone. Totally different results when compared to those done on a PC, even for the same search. Ugh. I've just had it with Google and their crap. I love Gmail, and thats all I'm going to be using from them.
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Other than internal Dogfooding Google does do extensive external surveys and polling. (Devil's advocate) As for your anecdotal story regarding searching for Axiom's Edge, have you considered that the page you were looking for was not as relevant to the original search as all the prior results? I agree that Google can do a better job. Getting the correct information to users, in the way that users want them, is Google's problem. Not the user's. If you're looking for Axiom's Edge, but you don't know what search terms to use, or only have a partial name, Google should be able to fill in the blanks for you. Finding a way to innovate and to continue to improve Google Search algorithms is the only way to do this. As for the location based searches, I've personally found that they're useful to me. Just turn it off if you don't like it. Follow the instructions here. http://www.google.com/support/websea...?answer=179386
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05-03-2011, 09:59 AM | #22 |
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Like Google when I first started using it.
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05-03-2011, 03:13 PM | #23 |
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daniel, shouldnt all of this have been mitigated when GOOG did their last major re-algo that flipped the SEO and webmaster worlds upside down? it feels like you guys made huge changes that eradicated most black hat SEO practitioners, but also hurt a lot of people with small personal sites/ businesses...but being for the cause (or submitting to a giant), everyone just sucked it up and reassessed their marketing campaigns...now, if the search itself is still inadequate and seeing diminishing results (which most people seem to think), what was the major benefit of the re-algo?
dont get me wrong, i love your company and everything it does, but i have to admit that i use google purely based on habit now, and not quality...
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When I type in the local pizza shop.. "Venice Pizza". I want the phone number to my local pizzeria for delivery... not the number to the closest pizza shops in venice.. If it's going to localize my results, at least do it when I need it to..
And quit being all ghey and having all these cool nav apps for android and leave iphone people with "maps". I know it's your competition but being all petty about it is weak.. dragging your feet does not make me "want a droid".. we still have google calanders, gmail, etc even if we don't have a g-phone.. If you want us to use your services and get some of that "g-synergy" get cracking.. also google would do wonders to allow users to permaban half the internet.. spider sites, squaters, craigslist style. "Flag for removal" but just for the user. If I search BMW parts then I could get rid of the sites that just spam and link and redirect and link..
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The big thing I really have become disgusted with is when seareching are these fake 'sites' that show up listing a relevent result, but often being some sort of oddball 'fake search' site once you click on them. Granted I often spot them before even clicking, but users like my father/grandfather can not, and that creates all sorts of issues.
In regard to saying 'well do our competitors have a better option'...well no, they don't. But because they don't, doesn't mean the current way is 'the best way' as it isn't. I still use google all of the time, but I've also 'mastered' (IMO) how to manipulate it how to find things. This seems to cut down on some of the 'search overload' type stuff. Quote:
For the life of me, I couldn't get her off the phone until i hung up. We have a google places deal, and it works rather well for us. That's all we need.
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