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Old 06-24-2011, 08:25 PM   #151
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great build!!! i love the center console and the skid plate/guard. i want one of those skid plates on my car, these nj roads suck. great work cant wait to see more.
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Old 06-24-2011, 08:36 PM   #152
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the subie is my first try at a car

this 240SX is my first with my son Allen
He's obviously the smart one....haha
I knew I've seen this kind of work somewhere !!!!

It's an awesome build... any plan for seats ?
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Old 06-25-2011, 05:05 AM   #153
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Looking forward to seeing more of this, attention to detail is fantastic. Good things are happening here.
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Old 06-25-2011, 07:14 PM   #154
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This is soooooooooooo AMAZIIIIIIING I really look forward to seeing the dash all lit up and functional. Did you build hot rods/classic cars before this?? lol.
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Old 06-28-2011, 03:11 AM   #155
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This thread got me to post a compliment.

That's amazing in and of itself.

The quality of the work, the attention to detail, and the obvious love of the process has absolutely blown me away. Both of you, father and son, are amazing. I'm envious of the whole situation, frankly.

Keep up the good work guys. I have nothing but respect and admiration for it.
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Old 06-28-2011, 04:20 AM   #156
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I'm ready to hear this car run already, the work is purely amazing in this build.

Wouldn't mind you working on my 240 sometime after seeing the end results of yours, keep up the good work.
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Old 06-28-2011, 08:48 PM   #157
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Although I am more the minimalistic, and only if it NEEDS to be there kind of 240 enthusiast, I'm floored by your build thread. I seriously envy your metal working skills; there is just nothing cooler than aluminum sheet metal parts. Okay there is, but it really adds some killer touches.

mad props to you sir, please keep us posted!
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Old 07-06-2011, 02:18 PM   #158
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Old 07-22-2011, 05:59 PM   #159
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Thought you guys might wanna check this out.

VIDEO


there's a bad bearing in the tranny... not sure if its the main bearing or the throwout bearing.... hence there's a little bit of gear noise... didn't know about it until now because this is the first chance we've had to drive it more than a few hundred feet...

i wish i had time to get some better clips... i actually drove it quite a bit, but unfortunately i only had the camera for about 5 minutes on the last day... so i had my GF shoot some video and i cut out the boring parts where i drive slow and try to avoid the police haha.




love that HR engine noise though, fuck yea.
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Old 07-22-2011, 06:30 PM   #160
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all giggles I like it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohvUDLEYD4
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Old 07-22-2011, 07:18 PM   #161
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nice, two thumbs up, seeing a Z steering wheel in a s13 is awesome. Sounds great too.
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Old 07-22-2011, 07:25 PM   #162
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very cool indeed thanks for the vid looked badass. Loved your girlfriend giggling . LOL
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Old 07-22-2011, 10:07 PM   #163
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nice, two thumbs up, seeing a Z steering wheel in a s13 is awesome. Sounds great too.
notice the full z dash?
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Old 07-23-2011, 10:32 AM   #164
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notice the full z dash?
Haha, yes, I caught that early on in the thread.
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Old 07-23-2011, 10:56 AM   #165
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This is a amazing build.

Subscribed as well this is good stuff.
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Old 07-23-2011, 04:10 PM   #166
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I was wondering when Allen was going to post a video
first time I saw it too.....
Had to pull the engine and tranny to find the tranny noise.
Turns out the front main bearing was bad.
We used the factory service manual and it
made it a pretty easy job.
We'll try to get pictures of it all, and post them up
later. It will all be put back together soon.

We didn't have any other surprises, and the car is really nice
and fast. No problems not having VDC, or anti skid except the
lights on the dash. Engine runs sweet.
Steering was pretty stable and tracked true, also had a pretty
tight turning radius and quick ratio.
Suspension seems to be stiff enough and it has a pretty
nice ride. The stock brakes have got to go though! Already have some
ideas for them.

Rather than post up a lot of little crap, we'll combine it into
another series for the thread.
We've got some improvements in just about every area....
brakes,suspension, hood, interior etc.

Thanks
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Old 07-23-2011, 04:50 PM   #167
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Awesome build, definitely on my list of best build threads EVER! ... can't wait for updates!
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Old 07-25-2011, 12:12 AM   #168
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moar pics!! quality craftsmanship like no other. i wished i had a quarter of your guy's metal bending skills.
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Old 08-04-2011, 10:38 PM   #169
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This is a truely impressive build, no details are being over looked.
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Old 08-05-2011, 01:50 AM   #170
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Just read all six pages - awesome build and I look forward to more updates!

When I started reading the first post and saw it was the dad posting, I was like "oh no, a tribute post to his son" and was kind of worried and bummed. Whew! I'm glad it turned out the way it did! Father-son builds are the best!
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Old 08-12-2011, 02:03 PM   #171
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Old 08-12-2011, 02:19 PM   #172
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Old 10-07-2011, 10:22 AM   #173
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Old 10-07-2011, 08:10 PM   #174
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Old 12-15-2011, 11:22 PM   #175
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wow i just noticed this and wow!!! im loving the build from inside & out... I was thinking of making myself a skid plate just like that but the strut bar u have is great post up more pix of it...did u fab it up urself? or is it a Z & 240 mock up? amazing keep up the great work!!!
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Old 12-16-2011, 06:45 PM   #176
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dammm awesome build bro and props on all the custom work it looks sick
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Old 12-29-2011, 12:36 PM   #177
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OK, it's winter now in western New York, so we have a little time to catch up.
We are going to post up some improvements we've made to the car.
We wanted to try to improve the front tension rod setup for the 240SX.
The factory setup was worn out, and the energy suspension urethane
just feels too bound up when it moves thru it’s travel.
We could have purchased an aftermarket setup, but we wanted to have the
precision of a spherical joint combined with a urethane bushing to eliminate some
vibration and harshness. The pictures will show the pieces we made. The total weight
is just a little less than the solid factory tension rod. The spherical joint end is a little
heavier, and the end that bolts to the lower arm is a little lighter.
This end will be welded into the 1” DOM tubing. The matching slot gives more weld surface.









These ends were welded up with the gussets, and then bored to fit the bearing and the snap ring.
Then the gusset end was drilled and tapped for a ¾ -16 thread.
The urethane bushing is left over from the 240SX energy suspension kit and is sleeved with
an aluminum bushing to fit the ID of the bearing. Inside is a stainless sleeve that fits the factory
tension rod bolt and mounting position.


½ “ grade 8 bolts fit the factory LCA holes.
The threaded rod is ¾-16 stainless, with nuts to lock the pieces. The arms were adjusted to length and
painted.



Here it is tacked and test fit.





The arm swings easily now with no binding or slop…..
On to the next project….
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Old 12-29-2011, 12:41 PM   #178
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This is the update for the brakes for the S13.
We wanted to get brakes that are affordable and easy to service with OEM parts. We tried a lot of searching for ideas and tried some aluminum four piston Nissan and Infiniti calipers for the front, and although they fit the bolt patterns or would fit with adapter brackets, they wouldn’t clear the spokes of the wheels. (We have RPF1 17 x 9.5 with 38mm offset). The 350Z stock front calipers are two-piston with 320mm (approx. 12.6”) diameter rotors. These just clear the spokes……





The bolt pattern and rotor diameter are a direct bolt on (if you drill out the s13 mounting holes to the larger bolt size) so we settled for these for now. Rather than drill out the holes, we made these double threaded stepped studs.



We wanted to get some more braking in the rear as well so we searched data for rear swaps. A lot of people use the z32 type swaps, but we wanted to keep the stock parking brake setup. We found that with some modification that a 2008 Mazda RX8 rear caliper could be used with the 350Z rear rotor. (307.7mm dia. Approx. 12.1”) It has a larger piston (single 43mm, same as 350Z ) diameter that should balance well with the 350Z two piston( 45mm ) fronts and a new 1 and 1/16” brake master cylinder (Z32 with the third port corrected with the internal inverted flare installed already from Z1 motorsports) This caliper uses a “similar” parking brake mechanism that pulls thru the piston like the s13. Some modifications and fabricating are required.

240sx stock rear caliper



’08 Mazda RX8 rear caliper



The shields need to be trimmed for the bigger rotors….





This is a comparison of the stock 240 rotor vs the 350Z we will be using.



These holes need to be slotted slightly (3/16”) toward the center of the axle to keep the pads from overhanging the rotors. ( it over hangs this much before slotting the holes )



The raised “boss” also was milled off .060” to give more clearance where the caliper bracket passes near the inner rotor face. (it had only .022” without milling it off) This will better center the caliper in the neutral position over the rotor thickness.





These custom washers will keep the caliper in the right position in the slotted holes until the bolts are tightened…..



This bracket from the 240sx caliper…….



…….will bolt right on to the RX8 caliper. This allows us to use the stock parking brake cables.







The 240sx spring is used also…..good thing it is stainless steel….no rust!

Neither bracket which holds the parking brake cable can be used.



We fabricated this one to hold the cable.




The Z rotor is 2 mm thinner than a stock RX8 rotor so we also added a stainless steel pad shim to bring it back to proper thickness. This might not be necessary, but will ensure that the caliper piston won’t extend too far if the pads wear to the limit.





The banjo fitting is the same…..



And the stock flex lines could be used but we opted for new braided stainless.



We also added a proportioning valve and installed it next to the master cylinder.



Here are some pictures of the components











While it was apart, we also replaced the rear lower ball joints with new ’89 nissan sentra FRONT lower ball joints (moog K9633). Thanks to previous write-ups on this, it was a simple job. The moog ball joint has a grease fitting that sticks out the bottom a little bit, so the plastic shield piece that protects the lower control arm needs to be trimmed just slightly to clear.

Here are some shots after painting the calipers black and installed on the car…..





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The front fender extensions that tie into the bumper were rotten so they got replaced as well. We started with the old pieces as a pattern.



We made a set of rollers for the English wheel and formed these blanks from 3003 H14 .060” aluminum.







We formed a small flange on the top edge, and rolled a flange into the front edge to follow the contour of the bumper edge.





The bottom was bent back to form the lower lip where it bolts to the fender. Also these threaded bungs were welded to the back side where studs will pass thru to fasten to the fenders. The studs were leftovers from somewhere on the teardown of the Z. The stock pieces wrap down under the fender a little more than we liked, so we made ours sit a little wider at the bottom. They cover a little more of the tire in the front this way. ( approx. ½” ) This is the original.



The rear edge was trimmed to follow the arch of the wheel well, and a flange was welded to the end to extend into the wheel well. Two bolts will go thru the factory holes, and the fabrication is done. Just a little fill primer and sanding and they are finished







We have about 20 hours fabricating these two pieces.

We have some more stuff to post that will be up in a month or so.....

Thanks for reading.......
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