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LS240 · 07-05-2008, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

Exactly the first thing that popped in my head...400whp and 280 ft/lbs is kinda cake walk for SRs. Other than the cool factor and making the car a bit more balanced due to the lighter nose, I dont see any advantage over an SR.

It's probably not any lighter. I don't know the weight of a 13B off the top of my head, so I'll just use what I know. LS1 swaps in RX7s only add around 70-80lbs, and an LS1 weighs 496lbs. But SR20s weigh around 330lbs, therefore, according to this simple, and admittedly non-scientific calculation, the SR20 should actually be lighter than the 13B.

I suppose the swap is pretty cool, but just kinda pointless, in my opinion. Rotaries don't last long with any power and they make fuck all for torque, and really aren't that light either, so I just have to wonder why.

Somnambulist · 07-05-2008, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Z33dori

20b is crazy in anything....

id kill for 3 rotor go-kart... so sick

Yeah and it would probably kill you.

Haha. That would be outta control.

norcal_black240 · 07-05-2008, 11:58 PM

Sick swap, I like rotary's though so Imo its cool. Props to whoever did it.

deolio · 07-06-2008, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by LS240

It's probably not any lighter. I don't know the weight of a 13B off the top of my head, so I'll just use what I know. LS1 swaps in RX7s only add around 70-80lbs, and an LS1 weighs 496lbs. But SR20s weigh around 330lbs, therefore, according to this simple, and admittedly non-scientific calculation, the SR20 should actually be lighter than the 13B.

i think he just meant he could mount it further behind the front wheels, making the weight distribution more balanced.

the world has gone swap-crazy. cool to see something different, but i'm partial to keeping the swaps within the company... unless it's an lsx

JayDee M Rolly · 07-06-2008, 12:26 AM

n/a rotaries are sick.

allntrlundrgrnd · 07-06-2008, 12:34 AM

Quote:

I made 400whp and 280tq.

that.... is lame

*kognition* · 07-06-2008, 12:50 AM

It is definitely different. Definitely a bit lighter.

CursedGTR · 07-06-2008, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by burnsauto

please... don't ever talk of blowing that rb. I will cry.

Me too dude, me too. BUT when one thing blows up you get the excuse to build something else.

an_orange_s2k · 07-06-2008, 02:05 AM

i love rotary engines but i this is kinda ehh...keep a rotary in the rx-7's and keep the SR's in the silvia's

I10cruiser · 07-06-2008, 02:15 AM

hah damn 400hp and only 280tq . .like shelby said torque wins races heheh jk

Leetheslacker · 07-06-2008, 03:11 AM

thats peter, a local guy.

he used to have an sr a few years back.

cool dude. crazy swap.
its really weird seeing s chassis and hearing rotary.
like how seeing a fd and hearing ls1 is odd.

ill see if i cant dig up the vid from the local event with him in it.

DRIFT-ELITE · 07-06-2008, 03:18 AM

that thing is wicked...i wanted to drop a tii into my corolla when i had it but never got around to doing it, but into a s14....thats tight

drift into a curb · 07-06-2008, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by sac

haha.. so true.. I would never DD a turborotory.. but never hesitated to DD any nissan.. From the z32, s14, b13, d21,etc.. very reliable..

that makes more sense. na rotaries last forever.

xplicit240 · 07-06-2008, 03:34 AM

props for originality i guess. its been done into a 86 before. but purpose? not to clear on the rotary in a nissan. but to each's own. its cool IMO. everything is being swapped into S chassis nowadays. the worst i think is a F20 from a s2k into a s chassi. i mean why?! whats the point?

*DALAZ_68* · 07-06-2008, 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z33dori

20b is crazy in anything....

id kill for 3 rotor go-kart... so sick

i was thinking the exact same fucken thing LOL

healing · 07-06-2008, 04:04 AM

Fuck that, one rotor in a kart is already a handful:
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKayagHUCw8[/ame]

About the weight, the approximations above don't really take into account turbo accessories and etc for the rotary-LS1 swap. That being said, it doesn't seem the 13b would be much lighter than the SR20, either. But the 13b is made completely out of iron; if the rotor housings were aluminum it'd be a completely different story.

This is a better video, though the driver doesn't look very good lol but w/e:
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXW3oTWZ5YQ[/ame]

Z33dori · 07-06-2008, 09:38 AM

okay this is just too sick... i must have one

RUTH'LESSDET · 07-06-2008, 10:18 AM

swap looks clean but im not impressed with the torque at all

jsasrsr · 07-06-2008, 04:23 PM

props for doing an original swap, but then again its a rotary, which comes with pure unreliability, and thats why alot of the rx7 guys opt for an ls1.. not to mention the beastly power of an ls engine..

i bet he blew an apex seal shortly after that little photo shoot...i kid i kid

EDacIouSX · 07-06-2008, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LS240

It's probably not any lighter. I don't know the weight of a 13B off the top of my head, so I'll just use what I know. LS1 swaps in RX7s only add around 70-80lbs, and an LS1 weighs 496lbs. But SR20s weigh around 330lbs, therefore, according to this simple, and admittedly non-scientific calculation, the SR20 should actually be lighter than the 13B.

I suppose the swap is pretty cool, but just kinda pointless, in my opinion. Rotaries don't last long with any power and they make fuck all for torque, and really aren't that light either, so I just have to wonder why.

i am told stock for stock FD 13b is 50 pounds heavier than sr. not sure which sr

240sxdriftin · 07-06-2008, 05:01 PM

yeah that car is nasty fast, i was in an event with him a couple weeks back when i wrecked my car, sounds amazing and shoots lots of fire

tt99ol · 07-06-2008, 05:16 PM

thats a pretty cool deal there
but i like the 20b 350z a little better
20b sounds way better but....
only one thing beats the sound of the 20b
4 rotors of fury

Bubbles · 07-06-2008, 08:17 PM

Just give me a regular FD.

Better handling, better looks, less work, same engine.

Come on kids.

trsilvias13 · 07-07-2008, 11:35 AM

Throw in a 13b in a s13 (or a 1995 13b in a 95 240sx) and bring it to the REF and get it certified. It can be legal + fast. Fitment might not be an issue as the Downpipe goes under the passenger side.

*Antihero983* · 07-07-2008, 11:41 AM

I wonder what cams he's using.....hahahahahahaha

Z33dori · 07-07-2008, 11:44 AM

dude he has to be running the uber nos drift cams... lol

*Antihero983* · 07-07-2008, 11:49 AM

^lol yeah, the valvetrain must be NUTS in that thing! I hope he doesn't blow a head gasket from all that power!

Z33dori · 07-07-2008, 11:52 AM

lol reps, you made my side hurt.

*Antihero983* · 07-07-2008, 11:59 AM

^dude, just wait till his timing belt snaps! I'd hate to see when those pistons go through the oil pan from so much powa!!!

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07-05-2008, 11:58 PM	#34
norcal_black240 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: yuba city (norcal) Age: 34 Posts: 710 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Sick swap, I like rotary's though so Imo its cool. Props to whoever did it. __________________

07-06-2008, 02:15 AM	#41
I10cruiser Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: los angeles Age: 32 Posts: 3,053 Trader Rating: (47) Rides Gallery: I10cruiser Feedback Score: 47 reviews	hah damn 400hp and only 280tq . .like shelby said torque wins races heheh jk __________________

07-06-2008, 03:34 AM	#45
xplicit240 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Weird NJ! Age: 36 Posts: 723 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	props for originality i guess. its been done into a 86 before. but purpose? not to clear on the rotary in a nissan. but to each's own. its cool IMO. everything is being swapped into S chassis nowadays. the worst i think is a F20 from a s2k into a s chassi. i mean why?! whats the point? __________________

07-06-2008, 09:38 AM	#48
Z33dori Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Riverview, FL Age: 32 Posts: 5,557 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	okay this is just too sick... i must have one __________________

07-06-2008, 12:26 AM	#36
JayDee M Rolly Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Westminster, CA Age: 33 Posts: 2,191 Trader Rating: (15) Rides Gallery: JayDee M Rolly Feedback Score: 15 reviews	n/a rotaries are sick.

07-06-2008, 12:50 AM	#38
kognition Premium Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Santee California Posts: 2,106 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	It is definitely different. Definitely a bit lighter.

07-06-2008, 02:05 AM	#40
an_orange_s2k Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: SF Bay Area - Mile High Denver Posts: 1,555 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	i love rotary engines but i this is kinda ehh...keep a rotary in the rx-7's and keep the SR's in the silvia's

07-06-2008, 03:11 AM	#42
Leetheslacker Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: ohio Posts: 382 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	thats peter, a local guy. he used to have an sr a few years back. cool dude. crazy swap. its really weird seeing s chassis and hearing rotary. like how seeing a fd and hearing ls1 is odd. ill see if i cant dig up the vid from the local event with him in it.

07-06-2008, 03:18 AM	#43
DRIFT-ELITE Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Highland Park, Los Angeles Posts: 937 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	that thing is wicked...i wanted to drop a tii into my corolla when i had it but never got around to doing it, but into a s14....thats tight

07-06-2008, 04:04 AM	#47
healing Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Seattle Age: 34 Posts: 13 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Fuck that, one rotor in a kart is already a handful: [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKayagHUCw8[/ame] About the weight, the approximations above don't really take into account turbo accessories and etc for the rotary-LS1 swap. That being said, it doesn't seem the 13b would be much lighter than the SR20, either. But the 13b is made completely out of iron; if the rotor housings were aluminum it'd be a completely different story. This is a better video, though the driver doesn't look very good lol but w/e: [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXW3oTWZ5YQ[/ame]

07-06-2008, 10:18 AM	#49
RUTH'LESSDET Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NYC Age: 41 Posts: 905 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	swap looks clean but im not impressed with the torque at all __________________ 91 Sil80-Sold, LS2 Powered 1997 240sx-Traded, 2005 350z-Sold, Whats next?

07-06-2008, 04:23 PM	#50
jsasrsr Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Stationed in...Germany Age: 32 Posts: 419 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	props for doing an original swap, but then again its a rotary, which comes with pure unreliability, and thats why alot of the rx7 guys opt for an ls1.. not to mention the beastly power of an ls engine.. i bet he blew an apex seal shortly after that little photo shoot...i kid i kid

07-06-2008, 05:01 PM	#52
240sxdriftin Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Dayton, OH Age: 32 Posts: 1,377 Trader Rating: (25) Feedback Score: 25 reviews	yeah that car is nasty fast, i was in an event with him a couple weeks back when i wrecked my car, sounds amazing and shoots lots of fire

07-06-2008, 05:16 PM	#53
tt99ol Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: quartz hill CA Age: 34 Posts: 644 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	thats a pretty cool deal there but i like the 20b 350z a little better 20b sounds way better but.... only one thing beats the sound of the 20b 4 rotors of fury __________________ Need automotive work done in the antelope valley? Ask me how i can help.

07-06-2008, 08:17 PM	#54
Bubbles Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Location, Location. Posts: 3,320 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Just give me a regular FD. Better handling, better looks, less work, same engine. Come on kids.

07-07-2008, 11:35 AM	#55
trsilvias13 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,984 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Throw in a 13b in a s13 (or a 1995 13b in a 95 240sx) and bring it to the REF and get it certified. It can be legal + fast. Fitment might not be an issue as the Downpipe goes under the passenger side.

07-07-2008, 11:41 AM	#56
Antihero983 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gilmanton, NH Age: 36 Posts: 4,403 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: Antihero983 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I wonder what cams he's using.....hahahahahahaha __________________ "So here I am, right back at it again, just like I've always been"

07-07-2008, 11:44 AM	#57
Z33dori Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Riverview, FL Age: 32 Posts: 5,557 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	dude he has to be running the uber nos drift cams... lol __________________

07-07-2008, 11:49 AM	#58
Antihero983 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gilmanton, NH Age: 36 Posts: 4,403 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: Antihero983 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	^lol yeah, the valvetrain must be NUTS in that thing! I hope he doesn't blow a head gasket from all that power! __________________ "So here I am, right back at it again, just like I've always been"

07-07-2008, 11:52 AM	#59
Z33dori Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Riverview, FL Age: 32 Posts: 5,557 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	lol reps, you made my side hurt. __________________

07-07-2008, 11:59 AM	#60
Antihero983 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gilmanton, NH Age: 36 Posts: 4,403 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: Antihero983 Feedback Score: 2 reviews	^dude, just wait till his timing belt snaps! I'd hate to see when those pistons go through the oil pan from so much powa!!! __________________ "So here I am, right back at it again, just like I've always been"

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