Big power SR23DET S14 build thread - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

HouseElf · 07-03-2010, 01:42 AM

Hey there Zilvia, my names tyler and i decided to make a built thread on my 240sx. but first ill give you a little back ground on how the car got to were it is today. i picked up the s14 back in november hoping to get into drifting, and to possibly built it for that puprose-

and it already had a slant top SR20det in it, along with stance coilovers with energy bushings, greddy FMIC, WORK Meister S2 rims, Z32 brake/hub conversion, the body kit thats on the car, and i believe that is all. As i started getting used the the RWD, i started getting more into drifting, so i got a Kaaz 2 way LSD, a sparco fighter, sparco deap dish suede wheel and hub, a defi "den" (amber) and a few other things im probably forgeting. and then i broke the front bumper into multiple pieces-

so i fixed it

-

after that i decided i needed some new spacers and studs to make the car sit right and it turned out pretty good-

a few weeks go by and hurray me! i broke a rocker arm! -____-

and that was the last time I've driven my car (about 5 and a half months). at first i thought about just doing a small build, gt28r, new exhaust manifold, cams, springs, rocker arm stoppers, new actuator, ARP head studs, you know, little things-

then i got to realizing, well i dont want my bottem end to blow! so i should built that too, and then i got talked into a stroker kit from BC... along with some other goodies-

not a bad idea for a drift car, more torque, more reliability. then some time passed and redline time attack was in vegas for an event. and my buddy had completed his EVO VIII for the purpose of time attack, long story short, his block blew because of a fucked up fuel line (LEAAAAAN).

i soon realized that i did NOT want to built this motor twice and retired it from drifting, before it was to late. fortunatly for me, CP was taking their damn time with my over sized pistons (still havent come in 4 months later). so i decided while the car was down, to do a COMPLETE build on the engine. Darton sleeves, full nasty Portflow head (extensively ported, beryllium copper seating, polished, full spring/rocker arm/valves etc.), Full-Race Ramhorn exh. manifold (t4 flange), PTE6262 DBB billet wheel turbo (.82 A/R), greddy intake manifold, 70mm (or so) throttle body, FULL steel braded lines win an fittings, an FCON V-PRO version 3.3, twin in tank denso fuel pumps with a custom hat, ID2000 injectors, all to run on E-85. of course this isnt the full list, but you get the idea.

sorry these are all the pictures i have so far, the block is not back from sleeving yet, and the head is still out too. as for the rest of my parts they are all going to be shipped out at the same time. and supposidly my exh. manifold is done with coating and on its way back.

then i took into consideration my trans/clutch/DS... luckily for me, the man building my car (Mike Angel) is friends with the owner the retaks 240sx, who just switched to V8 power. so he talked them into selling me their brand new Z32 trans, driveshaft shop chromoly drive shaft, starter, adapter plate, and spec stage 3 clutch. out with the old, in with the new-

(this probably is not all i have done, i tried my best to remember what ive done in what sequence)

so that is where we are at now, i have plans after the drivtrain is complete to go widebody, get a new body kit, paint the car, get new rims, brakes, and cage the interior blah blah blah. so check in and see what the latest is with the car. ill update it as it happens

Kouki_monstr · 07-03-2010, 01:48 AM

yessss, love the zip tie job lol. Looks good so far!

HouseElf · 07-03-2010, 03:23 PM

thanks for the support guys. the compression i believe is 9:1, and im pretty sure the bore is 89mm, but i left all that up to miky and what he wanted to do with it.

and i agree with you on the vet head, but i didnt consider that until the head was already shipped out...

btw everything that is being taken off the car is for sale, including the gt2871r (brand new, DBB), tomei manifold (also brand new, in box), sr20 trans, exedy triple puck clutch, stcok driveshaft, greddy springs, stock crank, stock pistons and rods, etc. so let me know if you need anything and ill let you know if i have it, or give pricing. more updates to come later, along with new pictures

S13 curtis · 07-03-2010, 07:27 AM

what size and CR are these pistons?

Nick_04K · 07-03-2010, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S13 curtis

what size and CR are these pistons?

^^ Yes. Do high comp too! Build will be the sickness

MitchellBade · 07-03-2010, 08:29 AM

Pretty impressive. I can't wait to see the engine put back together.

Aoshi112 · 07-03-2010, 11:16 AM

Looking great. Should be a beast, esp with Mikey building and tuning it.

S14_Kouki · 07-03-2010, 11:35 AM

Should of done a vet head, im lovin the turbo you picked.

JDM Sil4ty · 07-03-2010, 12:48 PM

yes. im lovin the way you chose to go. gl

killa.beez33 · 07-05-2010, 11:47 AM

I wanna hear this thing run! VIDS OR BAN!

HouseElf · 07-06-2010, 01:17 AM

went to the shop today. nothing new, but i took a few pictures for you guys.

6262

dirty engine bay, cant wait for this to get cleaned up

ARP head studs

tires ill use on wastegate and during break in period

sorry for the bad picture quality, only had my phone on me. more updates hopefully later this week

Z33dori · 07-06-2010, 06:41 AM

looking forward to seeing this engine completed. Looks very promising!

bllabong89 · 07-06-2010, 08:37 AM

^^^^Agreed, this will be a good build...soundin good so far and I love the holes in the turbo intake. Are you going to putting a velocity stack on or going with an intake? It always looks sick to have a nasty turbo with a nice billet velocity stack

rb26killa · 07-06-2010, 02:27 PM

Subscribed!!! Looks great, cant wait to see what power you make.

OceanPony · 07-06-2010, 04:53 PM

Very nice!

The Hamsterball · 07-06-2010, 05:57 PM

oh wow, you did some valvetrain work too?

do you have an idea of what it's going to redline at?

HouseElf · 07-06-2010, 06:03 PM

lol no i will not be using a velocity stack, just an intake to keep it safe haha

yes i pretty much made the head bulletproof, the head should be capable of like 10+, but with the stroker i will probably just have it redline at 8 or 8.5, no need for much more with how the gears will be.

thanks for the kind words guys

s14unimog · 07-09-2010, 10:05 AM

Looks like you got a hell of a project there; GL with it. A side note about that Tomei manifold. I've had two on my engine and one was replaced due to excessive warping; thank you Tomei, but I might suggest separating the runners; the last time I had my new one off it was already warped some... Also if you're using the 7 layer gasket, I drill out the center rivet b/c it falls under the flange face.

Side note... those wheels are terrible...

Sam_Well.13 · 07-09-2010, 10:52 AM

i hate reading a build thread that hasnt been finish yet =/.. its like a cock tease.. lol

keep it up though

tricky_ab · 07-09-2010, 01:29 PM

This is going to be quite an interesting engine build!

ross.cottrill · 07-09-2010, 04:21 PM

sweet,almost the same setup as me,except im 90mm with fully built ve head...cant wait to see the dyno!!!!!

HouseElf · 07-09-2010, 06:36 PM

like i said the tomei manifold is for sale, i have a full-race header coming in with a t4 flange. as for the work rims i dont like them all that much either, but they came on the car so i cant complane, but i have a set that ill be getting when i get over fenders that a buddy of mine has.

ross- 90mm what?? i need more detail man thats a huge tease! what are you making on what parts??

HouseElf · 07-09-2010, 07:40 PM

take that back, just did some research, you mean a 90mm combustion chamber on your VE head right? still would love to know what your making

ross.cottrill · 07-11-2010, 08:32 AM

im still in the build process..i was talkin about seeing your dyno.its nice to see some more indepth motor builds.im building a mazworx setup..
sr2.2 (90mm) bottem end
ve/vvl head (hemisphericaly cut combution chambers at 90mm)
z32 trans
full race t4 twin scroll kit with pte 6262
aem
thers a bunch more but thats the basics..
im gona do 93 pump and c16 for race map,hoping to get close to 800rwhp..

kalypso123 · 07-12-2010, 07:45 PM

nice job ditching the wing... im excited to see the finished motor!

HouseElf · 07-15-2010, 12:21 AM

ross your car sounds like it will be super nice! your so lucky you live in florida man, id love the extra free horsepower

haha. im excited to see what you make!

kalypos- im actually putting it back on haha

UPDATE- it has been a VERY good week for me and the build. stroker kit is finally in, aswell as my injectors! the stroker i have been waiting a good 5 months to show up, and im supprised the injectors showed up as quick as they did. on top of this great news, the darton sleeves should be in the block by tomorrow, the head should be back very soon, and the full race manifold SHOULD be done getting coated, and in by friday. so the build pretty much went from looking like it would never be done, to it should be done fairly soon.

PICTURES:

ID2000 injectors

ill be running e85 so i decided to go huge injector, these are 2200cc, but at 130psi (100 duty cycle) the flow 3710cc/min.

BC stroker

H-Beam

Billet crank

more updates as they happen.

battery1882 · 07-15-2010, 01:16 AM

wow that's alot of $$$

heavenboundkevin · 07-15-2010, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by battery1882

wow that's alot of $$$

EXACTLY what i was going to say. hope the whole car gets as much attention as the engine is.

HouseElf · 07-15-2010, 11:22 PM

yeah the body will get its turn, that is if i stay with it, im not crazy about the 96 being obd2, may start looking for a 95 or older shell, (but stay s14) to go obd1. then that will start getting attention while i drive the current set up, then when the shell is done getting its body work/paint, ill transfer all the parts over so the car is down for days rather than months.

HouseElf · 08-11-2010, 06:49 AM

i decided to hold off on posting for a while until something actually happened. and then it did, got my block back in about a week ago, then got it honed (sp?).

we primered the block

then painted it

then we started assembling the short block

unfortunatly we had undersized bearings and needed to over night some, but the short block will be assembled by the end of the week. other items for the block will be in soon, build is coming together nicely

07-03-2010, 01:42 AM	#1
HouseElf Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Vegas Posts: 204 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Big power SR23DET S14 build thread Hey there Zilvia, my names tyler and i decided to make a built thread on my 240sx. but first ill give you a little back ground on how the car got to were it is today. i picked up the s14 back in november hoping to get into drifting, and to possibly built it for that puprose- and it already had a slant top SR20det in it, along with stance coilovers with energy bushings, greddy FMIC, WORK Meister S2 rims, Z32 brake/hub conversion, the body kit thats on the car, and i believe that is all. As i started getting used the the RWD, i started getting more into drifting, so i got a Kaaz 2 way LSD, a sparco fighter, sparco deap dish suede wheel and hub, a defi "den" (amber) and a few other things im probably forgeting. and then i broke the front bumper into multiple pieces- so i fixed it - after that i decided i needed some new spacers and studs to make the car sit right and it turned out pretty good- a few weeks go by and hurray me! i broke a rocker arm! -____- and that was the last time I've driven my car (about 5 and a half months). at first i thought about just doing a small build, gt28r, new exhaust manifold, cams, springs, rocker arm stoppers, new actuator, ARP head studs, you know, little things- then i got to realizing, well i dont want my bottem end to blow! so i should built that too, and then i got talked into a stroker kit from BC... along with some other goodies- not a bad idea for a drift car, more torque, more reliability. then some time passed and redline time attack was in vegas for an event. and my buddy had completed his EVO VIII for the purpose of time attack, long story short, his block blew because of a fucked up fuel line (LEAAAAAN). i soon realized that i did NOT want to built this motor twice and retired it from drifting, before it was to late. fortunatly for me, CP was taking their damn time with my over sized pistons (still havent come in 4 months later). so i decided while the car was down, to do a COMPLETE build on the engine. Darton sleeves, full nasty Portflow head (extensively ported, beryllium copper seating, polished, full spring/rocker arm/valves etc.), Full-Race Ramhorn exh. manifold (t4 flange), PTE6262 DBB billet wheel turbo (.82 A/R), greddy intake manifold, 70mm (or so) throttle body, FULL steel braded lines win an fittings, an FCON V-PRO version 3.3, twin in tank denso fuel pumps with a custom hat, ID2000 injectors, all to run on E-85. of course this isnt the full list, but you get the idea. sorry these are all the pictures i have so far, the block is not back from sleeving yet, and the head is still out too. as for the rest of my parts they are all going to be shipped out at the same time. and supposidly my exh. manifold is done with coating and on its way back. then i took into consideration my trans/clutch/DS... luckily for me, the man building my car (Mike Angel) is friends with the owner the retaks 240sx, who just switched to V8 power. so he talked them into selling me their brand new Z32 trans, driveshaft shop chromoly drive shaft, starter, adapter plate, and spec stage 3 clutch. out with the old, in with the new- (this probably is not all i have done, i tried my best to remember what ive done in what sequence) so that is where we are at now, i have plans after the drivtrain is complete to go widebody, get a new body kit, paint the car, get new rims, brakes, and cage the interior blah blah blah. so check in and see what the latest is with the car. ill update it as it happens Last edited by HouseElf; 02-09-2011 at 03:40 PM..

07-03-2010, 01:48 AM	#2
Kouki_monstr Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Colorado Age: 35 Posts: 1,295 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	yessss, love the zip tie job lol. Looks good so far! __________________ 97 Kouki- Third times a charm [email protected]

07-03-2010, 08:29 AM	#6
MitchellBade Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado Posts: 205 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Pretty impressive. I can't wait to see the engine put back together. __________________

07-03-2010, 11:35 AM	#8
S14_Kouki Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: TPA Posts: 1,947 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Should of done a vet head, im lovin the turbo you picked. __________________ http://www.fabthis.com http://www.childhoodproductions.com/dbfab/store.html

07-03-2010, 12:48 PM	#9
JDM Sil4ty Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: City of Trees; Cali Posts: 722 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	yes. im lovin the way you chose to go. gl __________________ alpha kenny body.

07-03-2010, 03:23 PM	#3
HouseElf Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Vegas Posts: 204 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thanks for the support guys. the compression i believe is 9:1, and im pretty sure the bore is 89mm, but i left all that up to miky and what he wanted to do with it. and i agree with you on the vet head, but i didnt consider that until the head was already shipped out... btw everything that is being taken off the car is for sale, including the gt2871r (brand new, DBB), tomei manifold (also brand new, in box), sr20 trans, exedy triple puck clutch, stcok driveshaft, greddy springs, stock crank, stock pistons and rods, etc. so let me know if you need anything and ill let you know if i have it, or give pricing. more updates to come later, along with new pictures

07-03-2010, 07:27 AM	#4
S13 curtis Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Orlando,FL Age: 30 Posts: 651 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	what size and CR are these pistons?

07-03-2010, 11:16 AM	#7
Aoshi112 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 620 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Looking great. Should be a beast, esp with Mikey building and tuning it.

07-05-2010, 11:47 AM	#10
killa.beez33 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 30 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I wanna hear this thing run! VIDS OR BAN!

07-06-2010, 01:17 AM	#11
HouseElf Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Vegas Posts: 204 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	went to the shop today. nothing new, but i took a few pictures for you guys. 6262 dirty engine bay, cant wait for this to get cleaned up ARP head studs tires ill use on wastegate and during break in period sorry for the bad picture quality, only had my phone on me. more updates hopefully later this week Last edited by HouseElf; 07-22-2010 at 07:21 PM..

07-06-2010, 06:41 AM	#12
Z33dori Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Riverview, FL Age: 32 Posts: 5,557 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	looking forward to seeing this engine completed. Looks very promising! __________________

07-06-2010, 08:37 AM	#13
bllabong89 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: STL Age: 33 Posts: 503 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	^^^^Agreed, this will be a good build...soundin good so far and I love the holes in the turbo intake. Are you going to putting a velocity stack on or going with an intake? It always looks sick to have a nasty turbo with a nice billet velocity stack

07-06-2010, 02:27 PM	#14
rb26killa Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: U.S. Age: 34 Posts: 7 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Subscribed!!! Looks great, cant wait to see what power you make.

07-06-2010, 04:53 PM	#15
OceanPony Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: 1A Idaho Age: 34 Posts: 15 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Very nice!

07-06-2010, 05:57 PM	#16
The Hamsterball Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: CA Age: 35 Posts: 290 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	oh wow, you did some valvetrain work too? do you have an idea of what it's going to redline at? __________________ White '90 S13 Fastback (SOLD in '07)

07-06-2010, 06:03 PM	#17
HouseElf Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Vegas Posts: 204 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	lol no i will not be using a velocity stack, just an intake to keep it safe haha yes i pretty much made the head bulletproof, the head should be capable of like 10+, but with the stroker i will probably just have it redline at 8 or 8.5, no need for much more with how the gears will be. thanks for the kind words guys

07-09-2010, 10:05 AM	#18
s14unimog Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In a place, near a river, over a lake Age: 34 Posts: 2,415 Trader Rating: (22) Rides Gallery: s14unimog Feedback Score: 22 reviews	Looks like you got a hell of a project there; GL with it. A side note about that Tomei manifold. I've had two on my engine and one was replaced due to excessive warping; thank you Tomei, but I might suggest separating the runners; the last time I had my new one off it was already warped some... Also if you're using the 7 layer gasket, I drill out the center rivet b/c it falls under the flange face. Side note... those wheels are terrible... __________________ Fuking ginger bread man stole my wallet... SHIFT*lock_slide to side d3m3rs0n: if i have a baby im naming it Brandons Fault Emerson

07-09-2010, 10:52 AM	#19
Sam_Well.13 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Costa Mesa Posts: 855 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	i hate reading a build thread that hasnt been finish yet =/.. its like a cock tease.. lol keep it up though

07-09-2010, 01:29 PM	#20
tricky_ab Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: It's dark, and hell is hot! Posts: 9,413 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	This is going to be quite an interesting engine build!

07-09-2010, 04:21 PM	#21
ross.cottrill Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 1,185 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	sweet,almost the same setup as me,except im 90mm with fully built ve head...cant wait to see the dyno!!!!! __________________ " NEO VVL BABY FTMFW!" Originally Posted by shagspeed Dude if I made 500WHP on a 54C SR20DET back in 1999-2000 with old school technology .. This VET will T-BAG your RB engines

07-09-2010, 06:36 PM	#22
HouseElf Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Vegas Posts: 204 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	like i said the tomei manifold is for sale, i have a full-race header coming in with a t4 flange. as for the work rims i dont like them all that much either, but they came on the car so i cant complane, but i have a set that ill be getting when i get over fenders that a buddy of mine has. ross- 90mm what?? i need more detail man thats a huge tease! what are you making on what parts??

07-09-2010, 07:40 PM	#23
HouseElf Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Vegas Posts: 204 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	take that back, just did some research, you mean a 90mm combustion chamber on your VE head right? still would love to know what your making

07-11-2010, 08:32 AM	#24
ross.cottrill Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 1,185 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	im still in the build process..i was talkin about seeing your dyno.its nice to see some more indepth motor builds.im building a mazworx setup.. sr2.2 (90mm) bottem end ve/vvl head (hemisphericaly cut combution chambers at 90mm) z32 trans full race t4 twin scroll kit with pte 6262 aem thers a bunch more but thats the basics.. im gona do 93 pump and c16 for race map,hoping to get close to 800rwhp.. __________________ " NEO VVL BABY FTMFW!" Originally Posted by shagspeed Dude if I made 500WHP on a 54C SR20DET back in 1999-2000 with old school technology .. This VET will T-BAG your RB engines

07-12-2010, 07:45 PM	#25
kalypso123 (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New York, NY Posts: 2,853 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	nice job ditching the wing... im excited to see the finished motor!

07-15-2010, 12:21 AM	#26
HouseElf Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Vegas Posts: 204 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ross your car sounds like it will be super nice! your so lucky you live in florida man, id love the extra free horsepower haha. im excited to see what you make! kalypos- im actually putting it back on haha UPDATE- it has been a VERY good week for me and the build. stroker kit is finally in, aswell as my injectors! the stroker i have been waiting a good 5 months to show up, and im supprised the injectors showed up as quick as they did. on top of this great news, the darton sleeves should be in the block by tomorrow, the head should be back very soon, and the full race manifold SHOULD be done getting coated, and in by friday. so the build pretty much went from looking like it would never be done, to it should be done fairly soon. PICTURES: ID2000 injectors ill be running e85 so i decided to go huge injector, these are 2200cc, but at 130psi (100 duty cycle) the flow 3710cc/min. BC stroker H-Beam Billet crank more updates as they happen. Last edited by HouseElf; 07-22-2010 at 07:18 PM..

07-15-2010, 01:16 AM	#27
battery1882 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Fullerton, CA Age: 39 Posts: 694 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	wow that's alot of $$$

07-15-2010, 11:22 PM	#29
HouseElf Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Vegas Posts: 204 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah the body will get its turn, that is if i stay with it, im not crazy about the 96 being obd2, may start looking for a 95 or older shell, (but stay s14) to go obd1. then that will start getting attention while i drive the current set up, then when the shell is done getting its body work/paint, ill transfer all the parts over so the car is down for days rather than months. Last edited by HouseElf; 07-19-2010 at 05:04 PM..

08-11-2010, 06:49 AM	#30
HouseElf Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Vegas Posts: 204 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i decided to hold off on posting for a while until something actually happened. and then it did, got my block back in about a week ago, then got it honed (sp?). we primered the block then painted it then we started assembling the short block unfortunatly we had undersized bearings and needed to over night some, but the short block will be assembled by the end of the week. other items for the block will be in soon, build is coming together nicely

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Switch to Linear Mode Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode