2 sway bars welded together - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

ryangreg · 03-07-2006, 01:49 PM

Dont flame, just give me some friggen thoughts on this shit. Since Im only after a beefier rear sway bar, and money doesnt grow on trees, I was thinking this; Get another rear sway from the junkyard and either weld it under the stock one, or beside it. I would trim it so it sat nice and snug up agains the other one, and just stick weld the bitches together. Stiffen up I would think?

thoughts...........

EchoOfSilence · 03-07-2006, 02:00 PM

it would work... but you would be welding two cylindrical bars together, it wouldn't sit very nice.

just get aftermarket if you want one.

*SaintlyCharBoy* · 03-07-2006, 02:14 PM

why not just run longer bolts through the mounts and mount 2 to both the "D" mounts and the end links

that would give them the freedom to add stiffness, but not bind in their travels

either way if you stack em, you'll take an inch or so off of ground clearance right there...

McRussellPants · 03-07-2006, 06:22 PM

UUUUUUGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH.

If you want more stiffness and you're too cheap for rear bars just drill a new hole on the sway.

Less lever arm on the bar = more roll stiffness.

If you want more stiffness than that you can take a peice of 1/4th ish sheet metal and weld it down the length of the bar inbetween the links. Thats less ghetto than taping two bars together and will get you more stiffness.

jmauld · 03-07-2006, 06:53 PM

Try to visualize how a swaybar works, and you'll see why you shouldn't do this.

They work by twisting, if you stack two of them together, then one of them is going to twist and the other is going to bend, or you will effectively lock both bars, turning your rear suspension into a life axle.

ryangreg · 03-07-2006, 07:01 PM

Alright, so one on top of the other is out of the question. Side by side then. Do what now with the drilling Mcrussslepants?? I think Ill try it out, wont cost me anything....so why not? Thanks for input.

Pank · 03-07-2006, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryangreg

Alright, so one on top of the other is out of the question. Side by side then.

thats the SAME THING

*DJPimpFlex* · 03-07-2006, 07:09 PM

look at the largus bars. They have 3 holes in the front. If you lessen the leverage you increase the roll stifness.

ryangreg · 03-07-2006, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pank

thats the SAME THING

Nah brotha....its not the SAME THING.

HyperTek · 03-07-2006, 07:15 PM

s13? get rear sway from HICAS 91+ fastback SE model.
Change endlinks to solid endlinks.

ryangreg · 03-07-2006, 07:17 PM

I have a jap s13 though, I think the sway bar is bigger than the hicas sway anyway.

*DJPimpFlex* · 03-07-2006, 07:27 PM

nope^ same unless its a hicas sway

SoSideways · 03-07-2006, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryangreg

I have a jap s13 though, I think the sway bar is bigger than the hicas sway anyway.

JDM S13 rear sway bar = USDM S13 HICAS rear sway bar

I have one. Made a lot of difference. It was $25 + shipping.

95zilvia · 03-08-2006, 03:32 AM

Weld a solid bar.

Invalid Zero · 03-08-2006, 04:08 AM

You cannot weld 2 sway bars together. Sway bars are tempered just like springs. Heat them up (by welding etc) and they are as useless as a spaghetti noodle.

SoSideways · 03-08-2006, 07:38 AM

Spaghetti noodle = useful when put together with its familay of 1,000 and you proceed to eat them with Ragu sauce.

i8yourfwd · 03-08-2006, 01:31 PM

I love how you ask for our opinions, we tell you don't do it, and you still do it anyways... HAHAHA

DTS · 03-09-2006, 06:09 AM

this is the worst idea i have ever seen on Zilvia

ryangreg · 03-09-2006, 09:55 AM

hoooorah.....until the heat isue was mentioned, I was gonna do it...cause it wouldnt cost me shiat! But yea, thats a valid point..... but seeing as I have like 8 sway bars kicking about in the neighborhood, I might as well still give it a shot anyway.

Best Idea Ever.

Andrew Bohan · 03-09-2006, 11:04 AM

how are you going to mount it to the frame?

mellojoe · 03-09-2006, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryangreg

hoooorah.....until the heat isue was mentioned, I was gonna do it...cause it wouldnt cost me shiat! But yea, thats a valid point..... but seeing as I have like 8 sway bars kicking about in the neighborhood, I might as well still give it a shot anyway.

Best Idea Ever.

This doesn't make a bit of sense. I don't think you understand how a sway bar works. And everybody has told you it would be a bad idea. And you asked for our opinion. And you are still going to do it.

Well, fine. Go do it. And then come back here and tell us how it went.

i8yourfwd · 03-09-2006, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mellojoe

This doesn't make a bit of sense. I don't think you understand how a sway bar works. And everybody has told you it would be a bad idea. And you asked for our opinion. And you are still going to do it.

Well, fine. Go do it. And then come back here and tell us how it went.

Lol, that's what I said. He asks for all our opinions and completely disregards it.

Go cut your springs too for UBAR CHEAP DROP!

**ThatGuy** · 03-09-2006, 04:07 PM

If you aren't going to listen to logic when you ask for opinions, then don't bother posting anymore questions, please.

*NemeGuero* · 03-09-2006, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryangreg

hoooorah.....until the heat isue was mentioned, I was gonna do it...cause it wouldnt cost me shiat! But yea, thats a valid point..... but seeing as I have like 8 sway bars kicking about in the neighborhood, I might as well still give it a shot anyway.

Best Idea Ever.

If you have 8 sway bars.. SELL THEM AND BUY A REAL ONE YOU CHEAP BASTARD!

Pank · 03-09-2006, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryangreg

Nah brotha....its not the SAME THING.

I may be wrong, but dont sway bars twist? the sway bar is cylindrical, it doesnt matter where you put it, it will still act the same way.

EchoOfSilence · 03-09-2006, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NemeGuero

If you have 8 sway bars.. SELL THEM AND BUY A REAL ONE YOU CHEAP BASTARD!

Andrew Bohan · 03-09-2006, 08:49 PM

when you rotate an o, you get an o.
when you rotate an 8, you get a oo. therefore it won't work.

MurdarioStomp · 03-09-2006, 10:18 PM

youre a moron...do it

khmerguy618 · 03-09-2006, 10:46 PM

i think it would produce best results if he zip ties them together, that way he might even be able to do 3 sway bars.

*NemeGuero* · 03-09-2006, 11:13 PM

zip ties.. and duct tape

03-07-2006, 01:49 PM	#1
ryangreg Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: exeter Posts: 216 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	2 sway bars welded together Dont flame, just give me some friggen thoughts on this shit. Since Im only after a beefier rear sway bar, and money doesnt grow on trees, I was thinking this; Get another rear sway from the junkyard and either weld it under the stock one, or beside it. I would trim it so it sat nice and snug up agains the other one, and just stick weld the bitches together. Stiffen up I would think? thoughts...........

03-07-2006, 02:00 PM	#2
EchoOfSilence Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles/Berkeley, CA Posts: 2,238 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	it would work... but you would be welding two cylindrical bars together, it wouldn't sit very nice. just get aftermarket if you want one. __________________ Petition Nissan to Make the IDx on http://IDxClub.co !

03-07-2006, 02:14 PM	#3
SaintlyCharBoy Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bow, NH Age: 39 Posts: 849 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	why not just run longer bolts through the mounts and mount 2 to both the "D" mounts and the end links that would give them the freedom to add stiffness, but not bind in their travels either way if you stack em, you'll take an inch or so off of ground clearance right there... __________________ 92 vert - KADE + VH41 + GM MA5 = too many parts in the garage 95 base - retired

03-07-2006, 06:53 PM	#5
jmauld Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Age: 45 Posts: 362 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Try to visualize how a swaybar works, and you'll see why you shouldn't do this. They work by twisting, if you stack two of them together, then one of them is going to twist and the other is going to bend, or you will effectively lock both bars, turning your rear suspension into a life axle. __________________ Jason '95 240sx SE

03-07-2006, 07:09 PM	#8
DJPimpFlex Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Age: 35 Posts: 6,151 Trader Rating: (115) Rides Gallery: DJPimpFlex Feedback Score: 115 reviews	look at the largus bars. They have 3 holes in the front. If you lessen the leverage you increase the roll stifness. __________________

03-07-2006, 06:22 PM	#4
McRussellPants Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 2,168 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	UUUUUUGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH. If you want more stiffness and you're too cheap for rear bars just drill a new hole on the sway. Less lever arm on the bar = more roll stiffness. If you want more stiffness than that you can take a peice of 1/4th ish sheet metal and weld it down the length of the bar inbetween the links. Thats less ghetto than taping two bars together and will get you more stiffness.

03-07-2006, 07:01 PM	#6
ryangreg Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: exeter Posts: 216 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Alright, so one on top of the other is out of the question. Side by side then. Do what now with the drilling Mcrussslepants?? I think Ill try it out, wont cost me anything....so why not? Thanks for input.

03-07-2006, 07:15 PM	#10
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,222 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	s13? get rear sway from HICAS 91+ fastback SE model. Change endlinks to solid endlinks. __________________ Keep it Classy

03-07-2006, 07:17 PM	#11
ryangreg Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: exeter Posts: 216 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have a jap s13 though, I think the sway bar is bigger than the hicas sway anyway.

03-07-2006, 07:27 PM	#12
DJPimpFlex Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Age: 35 Posts: 6,151 Trader Rating: (115) Rides Gallery: DJPimpFlex Feedback Score: 115 reviews	nope^ same unless its a hicas sway __________________

03-08-2006, 03:32 AM	#14
95zilvia Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South San Francisco Age: 37 Posts: 1,860 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: 95zilvia Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Weld a solid bar.

03-08-2006, 04:08 AM	#15
Invalid Zero Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 5 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You cannot weld 2 sway bars together. Sway bars are tempered just like springs. Heat them up (by welding etc) and they are as useless as a spaghetti noodle.

03-08-2006, 07:38 AM	#16
SoSideways Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 你老母 Posts: 4,371 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Spaghetti noodle = useful when put together with its familay of 1,000 and you proceed to eat them with Ragu sauce.

03-09-2006, 06:09 AM	#18
DTS Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Caledon East, Ontario Posts: 62 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	this is the worst idea i have ever seen on Zilvia

03-09-2006, 09:55 AM	#19
ryangreg Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: exeter Posts: 216 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hoooorah.....until the heat isue was mentioned, I was gonna do it...cause it wouldnt cost me shiat! But yea, thats a valid point..... but seeing as I have like 8 sway bars kicking about in the neighborhood, I might as well still give it a shot anyway. Best Idea Ever.

03-09-2006, 11:04 AM	#20
Andrew Bohan Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Location: Location Posts: 8,330 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	how are you going to mount it to the frame?

03-09-2006, 04:07 PM	#23
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 41 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If you aren't going to listen to logic when you ask for opinions, then don't bother posting anymore questions, please. __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis

03-09-2006, 08:49 PM	#27
Andrew Bohan Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Location: Location Posts: 8,330 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	when you rotate an o, you get an o. when you rotate an 8, you get a oo. therefore it won't work.

03-09-2006, 10:18 PM	#28
MurdarioStomp Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ohio Age: 37 Posts: 242 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	youre a moron...do it __________________ www.ohiodrifting.com

03-09-2006, 10:46 PM	#29
khmerguy618 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 408 san jeezy CA Age: 39 Posts: 2,001 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	i think it would produce best results if he zip ties them together, that way he might even be able to do 3 sway bars. __________________ Watch speed channel 12/9 @7.30PM for drifting at HIN! [email protected] IF you bought stuff from me write me a review HERE \|\|VEXMOTORSPORTS \|\| DMAX-USA \|\| RPS CLUTCH \|\| BAB AUTOBODY\|\|

03-09-2006, 11:13 PM	#30
NemeGuero No more nissan. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: RAIN, Washington. Age: 36 Posts: 8,132 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: NemeGuero Feedback Score: 10 reviews	zip ties.. and duct tape __________________

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