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MakotoS13 · 03-25-2005, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AKADriver

Fords are domestics in the UK (Ford UK has a long history of building unique cars unrelated to US models), BMWs are imports there.

most of their parts and cars come from their US brethren.

mondeo = contour
cougar = cougar
ranger = ranger
GT = GT
focus = focus

and the have a few other little tiny cars like the KA and such. i think the fiesta is coming back in the form of a cool little econobox or sumthin.

mjjstang · 03-26-2005, 07:18 AM

no matter how you slice it though, the japanese have better technology, and their cars have a lower rate of malfunctions, I mean I stepped into my buddies 1991 toyota privea, and thought I was in the jetsons cruizer, the japanese will always be one step ahead, I own a mustang and a 240, its not like Im all hardcore for japanese cars, I really am not impressed with my car at all, sure it is an economy sports car and its not supposed to have the best engine but comon, 193 hp out of a 3.8 in 2001, that is disgusting, hell the 240 is probably in the same class as the 6erstang sept it manages to outperform my mustang in every aspect, while being 10 years older, Oh and btw im talking about when it was a ka, letalone sr. Although I hear the avalon is having a lot of quality issues, so who knows, I think the jap cars will always be more reliable though.

Fastback180 · 03-26-2005, 09:33 AM

yup...they're always a step ahead

G_Fish240 · 03-26-2005, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bjorkluv

Well with over 6 years in Japan and multiple locations I can tell you that I have seen maybe 6 Firebirds and Z28's combined..not many..now you do see a shit load of full size chevy pick ups and vans...

And How many of those had Y plates?

AlligatorBling · 03-26-2005, 10:39 PM

spaceshuttle van

kuramaya · 03-27-2005, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by G_Fish240

And How many of those had Y plates?

Only a few have the Y's..there is a "DUB" thing going, at least in okinawa I see quite a few full size GMC vans with DUB stickers all ghetto'd out..also alot of lowriders with hydros, its like 1994 all over again..

MakotoS13 · 03-27-2005, 07:59 AM

isn't it pretty true that the japanese get the cars before us meaning that they pretty much have TONS of time to find any malfunctions before they even ship any over here?

mjjstang · 03-27-2005, 09:12 AM

well yah you do have a point there on the reliability standpoint, and their cars arent that much more stylish then ours, but something about japanese cars technology wise, i donno,

SimpleSexy180 · 03-27-2005, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjorkluv

Only a few have the Y's..there is a "DUB" thing going, at least in okinawa I see quite a few full size GMC vans with DUB stickers all ghetto'd out..also alot of lowriders with hydros, its like 1994 all over again..

wow next thing you know youll see escalades on twenty fo's there

MakotoS13 · 03-27-2005, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mjjstang

well yah you do have a point there on the reliability standpoint, and their cars arent that much more stylish then ours, but something about japanese cars technology wise, i donno,

tech? its only recently that americans gave two craps about tech. we weren't interested in anything other than SUV's for a long time. cars are marketed towards what companies think they want.

mjjstang · 03-27-2005, 11:56 AM

thats what im saying that they have better tech, japanese that is,

sportcars14a · 03-27-2005, 12:04 PM

I think the Japanese get excited over seeing us drift, period. Of course they root on the domestic's because that is opening a broader fan base then just import fanatic's.

As for america or any other country not making good cars, I had a 97 240sx I used to drift all the time, I am now driving a 95' M3 and taking that to a drift event this upcoming saturday, and my next car will probably be a c5 z06, to me it dosent matter who makes the car, as long as it is a balanced sports car in my opinion. People who are brand happy like Nissan only or Toyota only, or Japan only etc. Need to open up to the WORLD of sports cars, there are so many different manufacturer's in the world who make kick ass sports cars who wont get a second look from the average drift guy cuz he is so focused on the jDm TyTe factor. I still have a love for wastegated silvia's making 400hp

Rusker · 03-27-2005, 01:18 PM

Interesting..

drftwerks · 03-28-2005, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by downshift180

wow next thing you know youll see escalades on twenty fo's there

haha, just go look at LA STYLE in a kinokunia book store.

AllenRPS13 · 03-28-2005, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by HyperTek

American cars suck!!! less quality per dollar... and the designes just are not as efficient..sloppy designs imo, they needed brute force via v8s just to move those dam boats.. hence why these are mostly popular in the home market, not overseas, where as european and japanese cars are loved world wide.

i totally agree with u!!!

drift freaq · 03-28-2005, 02:30 AM

the crack up is save for a few standout american cars like the Corvette C5 and C6 and the Ford GT40 our car companies do bite the big one , yet in Semiconductors and Software we are world leaders. Sure memory chips are made cheaper overseas and such but in the high semiconductors i.e. The CPU's none one beats the Americans. In fact if it was not for Silicon Valley aka the South bay part of the San Francisco bay area our country would not have the edge it does.
Risc processors Cisc processors , VLSI , Its all American and everyone else buys them from us and puts them in their stuff to make the shit happen. So why in the hell can't our car companies take note from the Semiconductor Industry?

the head · 03-28-2005, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakotoS13

most of their parts and cars come from their US brethren.

mondeo = contour
cougar = cougar
ranger = ranger
GT = GT
focus = focus

and the have a few other little tiny cars like the KA and such. i think the fiesta is coming back in the form of a cool little econobox or sumthin.

You got some of that backwards the mondeo and the focus came out in europe first and are far superior cars because of it

if only we could get the european focus RS AWD turbo

Ford EU made great cars the ford Orion back in the day a friend had one when he was in Italy it handeled just like an E30 BMW looked almost the same too and it was an excellent drivers car although lacking in the HP department.

AKADriver · 03-29-2005, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the head

You got some of that backwards the mondeo and the focus came out in europe first and are far superior cars because of it

Yep yep. Also the Focus they get now is a 2nd gen car completely unlike our warmed-over 1st gen model.

Before the days of "globalization," Ford UK was practically a different company. Cortinas, the old RWD Escort and Capri... badass. While we had this:

They had this:

SimpleSexy180 · 03-29-2005, 11:25 AM

yeah american car design skill sucks monkey balls. its sad though how there stuck on making spaceship looking cars.

TUnity2 · 03-29-2005, 11:40 PM

The differance between japan and here, we get the crappy versions of their card while they get almost the same damn version we do of our cars. The guy that own yashio (sp?) factory has a vette along with his stable of (pink) S chassis cars.

03-26-2005, 07:18 AM	#32
mjjstang Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,654 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	no matter how you slice it though, the japanese have better technology, and their cars have a lower rate of malfunctions, I mean I stepped into my buddies 1991 toyota privea, and thought I was in the jetsons cruizer, the japanese will always be one step ahead, I own a mustang and a 240, its not like Im all hardcore for japanese cars, I really am not impressed with my car at all, sure it is an economy sports car and its not supposed to have the best engine but comon, 193 hp out of a 3.8 in 2001, that is disgusting, hell the 240 is probably in the same class as the 6erstang sept it manages to outperform my mustang in every aspect, while being 10 years older, Oh and btw im talking about when it was a ka, letalone sr. Although I hear the avalon is having a lot of quality issues, so who knows, I think the jap cars will always be more reliable though. __________________ I was going to, but I can not think of a sig less than 75 characters.

03-26-2005, 09:33 AM	#33
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03-27-2005, 09:12 AM	#38
mjjstang Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,654 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	well yah you do have a point there on the reliability standpoint, and their cars arent that much more stylish then ours, but something about japanese cars technology wise, i donno, __________________ I was going to, but I can not think of a sig less than 75 characters.

03-27-2005, 11:56 AM	#41
mjjstang Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,654 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	thats what im saying that they have better tech, japanese that is, __________________ I was going to, but I can not think of a sig less than 75 characters.

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MakotoS13 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Texas Age: 38 Posts: 4,205 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	isn't it pretty true that the japanese get the cars before us meaning that they pretty much have TONS of time to find any malfunctions before they even ship any over here?

03-27-2005, 12:04 PM	#42
sportcars14a Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 50 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think the Japanese get excited over seeing us drift, period. Of course they root on the domestic's because that is opening a broader fan base then just import fanatic's. As for america or any other country not making good cars, I had a 97 240sx I used to drift all the time, I am now driving a 95' M3 and taking that to a drift event this upcoming saturday, and my next car will probably be a c5 z06, to me it dosent matter who makes the car, as long as it is a balanced sports car in my opinion. People who are brand happy like Nissan only or Toyota only, or Japan only etc. Need to open up to the WORLD of sports cars, there are so many different manufacturer's in the world who make kick ass sports cars who wont get a second look from the average drift guy cuz he is so focused on the jDm TyTe factor. I still have a love for wastegated silvia's making 400hp

03-28-2005, 02:30 AM	#46
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,558 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	the crack up is save for a few standout american cars like the Corvette C5 and C6 and the Ford GT40 our car companies do bite the big one , yet in Semiconductors and Software we are world leaders. Sure memory chips are made cheaper overseas and such but in the high semiconductors i.e. The CPU's none one beats the Americans. In fact if it was not for Silicon Valley aka the South bay part of the San Francisco bay area our country would not have the edge it does. Risc processors Cisc processors , VLSI , Its all American and everyone else buys them from us and puts them in their stuff to make the shit happen. So why in the hell can't our car companies take note from the Semiconductor Industry? __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

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SimpleSexy180 Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cal Posts: 4,750 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: SimpleSexy180 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	yeah american car design skill sucks monkey balls. its sad though how there stuck on making spaceship looking cars.

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TUnity2 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Chalmette, la Posts: 511 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The differance between japan and here, we get the crappy versions of their card while they get almost the same damn version we do of our cars. The guy that own yashio (sp?) factory has a vette along with his stable of (pink) S chassis cars.

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