Ls swapped cars are lame!!!!! - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

rb25_s13*CHUKI · 05-13-2010, 06:14 AM

I'm so sick n tired of seeing all these 240's n rx7's n everything with Ls v8 engines! I believe Its for people who simply can't handle building and tuning a proper 4 cylinder n don't have the balls to try, So they go the easy pussy way out and swap a v8. Then have the nerve to say oh I have a fast car! No shit sherlock you put a fucking corvette motor in your 240. anyone can do that and be fast. Then when they get beat by a mild sr with a gt28 they cry oh my engine is stock. just headers,intake,cam n tune. Oh really YOU HAVE A FUCKING V8 in the sam car I HAVE A FUCKING SR20 Inline 4. ! I hate v8 swapped cars they are for pussys. have fun arguing now. bye bye. P.s Next time mr v8 swapped car guy bring a real mans car or get run down by a little sr20 AGAIN with your ls2 blah blah blah.

rb25_s13*CHUKI · 05-13-2010, 06:15 AM

I can't believe he looked dead In my eyes and told me he only has headers,tune,cam n intake. Seriously thats your excuse? Really? anklfjsdgnsfoi gh2409wthg 0sflkh

nathanong87 · 05-13-2010, 06:33 AM

i dont really know what's happening but i think

rb25_s13*CHUKI · 05-13-2010, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by nathanong87

i dont really know what's happening but i think

Hahahaha made me laugh. Thx for that.

Csomme · 05-13-2010, 06:53 AM

How is having an LS swapped 240 being a pussy? Have you ever drifted a car where you don't have to wait for torque and tach shit out all the damn time? It's a proven setup with a huge reliable powerband that greatly expands with just a few modifications.

A cam and tune on even an LS1 will get you right about 500 to the wheels.

Please shut the fuck up.

shiftdrift · 05-13-2010, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Csomme

How is having an LS swapped 240 being a pussy? Have you ever drifted a car where you don't have to wait for torque and tach shit out all the damn time? It's a proven setup with a huge reliable powerband that greatly expands with just a few modifications.

A cam and tune on even an LS1 will get you right about 500 to the wheels.

Please shut the fuck up.

no, i think you're smoking crack.

rb25_s13*CHUKI · 05-13-2010, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Csomme

How is having an LS swapped 240 being a pussy? Have you ever drifted a car where you don't have to wait for torque and tach shit out all the damn time? It's a proven setup with a huge reliable powerband that greatly expands with just a few modifications.

A cam and tune on even an LS1 will get you right about 500 to the wheels.

Please shut the fuck up.

Really now? a cam n tune ls1 Is 500whp? Hmm check this video out Idk u tell me. This Ls1 coupe had tune,headers,cam,Intake n It was auto.

240 had gt28,tune,STOCK cams,Nitrous, forged pistons n head gaskets. same car. v8 4 cyl. sr lost cause miss shift. they did It again. n the ls1 car lost pretty bad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXhiskCDCmc

I'll post my video when It gets put online

shiftdrift · 05-13-2010, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rb25_s13*CHUKI

Really now? a cam n tune ls1 Is 500whp? Hmm check this video out Idk u tell me. This Ls1 coupe had tune,headers,cam,Intake n It was auto.

240 had gt28,tune,STOCK cams,Nitrous, forged pistons n head gaskets. same car. v8 4 cyl. sr lost cause miss shift. they did It again. n the ls1 car lost pretty bad.

YouTube - Nismo Knights LS2 240SX vs Team Undergrounds Turbo/Nos 240SX

I'll post my video when It gets put online

trust me man, i made him realize he was wrong, read page 2 or something. he said he mis-read and meant 400 just like i said.

rb25_s13*CHUKI · 05-13-2010, 11:35 PM

Oh n heres a video of a Ls1 swapped Rx7- vs a normal v8 cobra. Wouldn't u think the light ass rx7 witha new manly v8 would womp on the heavy ass terminator? Lol waste of moneys!

YouTube - LS1 RX7 FC V8 vs 500whp Cobra street race drag

Or he could have done It right n be like this guy!

YouTube - 407 whp rx-7 vs. 550+ whp 03 cobra rematch 2 of 2

There Is countless videos of v8 swapped rx7 n 240 getting womped on by cars It should SMASH with Its new powerplant so man like and tuff!

If u seriously need a v8 to "drift" then you suck. Anyone can drift with a v8 swapped 240 or rx7. Push gas turn wheel n have fun. ITs a EASY way out no matter how you look at It. You see those single cam guys n corolla guys clutch kicking the whole damn time. Even some dual cams. Thats fun LOL. I like doing that. V8's ARE THE EASY WAY OUT OF EVERYTHING! Puss n boots!

ranger240 · 05-14-2010, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by rb25_s13*CHUKI

Oh n heres a video of a Ls1 swapped Rx7- vs a normal v8 cobra. Wouldn't u think the light ass rx7 witha new manly v8 would womp on the heavy ass terminator? Lol waste of moneys!

YouTube - LS1 RX7 FC V8 vs 500whp Cobra street race drag

Or he could have done It right n be like this guy!

YouTube - 407 whp rx-7 vs. 550+ whp 03 cobra rematch 2 of 2

There Is countless videos of v8 swapped rx7 n 240 getting womped on by cars It should SMASH with Its new powerplant so man like and tuff!

dude you're an IDIOT... stop trying

you're judging everything off HP alone... thats like saying you have a billion dollars which is alot of money, but not considering what market prices are

a 3200lb 550 hp mustang cobra has a power/weight ratio of 5.8 lbs per hp.. the one in that video is "550+" thats really good

a fd rx7 with a 400 hp engine is 2300lbs.. so that equals a power to weight ratio of 5.75 pounds per horsepower

not considering other variables i'd say that the above 2nd grade math really takes a crap on your example of how bad ls1 swaps are

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WISH ONE · 05-14-2010, 12:29 AM

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You see those single cam guys n corolla guys clutch kicking the whole damn time. Even some dual cams. Thats fun LOL. I like doing that. V8's ARE THE EASY WAY OUT OF EVERYTHING! Puss n boots!

dont take offense to this, Im not saying your broke or have no driving experience but it sounds like something either someone who cant afford power would say or someone who hasnt driven with power would say... Most people dont like kicking the clutch a million times...

Quote:

Originally Posted by rb25_s13*CHUKI

ITs a EASY way out no matter how you look at It.

Isnt this the point? look at most racecars, they are put together in a way that will make the drivers life easier so that he can win... not make it harder so he can lose.

BustedS13 · 05-14-2010, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by rb25_s13*CHUKI

If u seriously need a v8 to "drift" then you suck. Anyone can drift with a v8 swapped 240 or rx7. basically what i'm saying is, my dad drove a Volvo growing up, so you know, i played a lot of Nintendo. then, when i was 17 or so, I watched The Fast and the Furious, maybe even Tokyo Drift, and then all of a sudden i was "in" to cars. of course, i didn't grow up working on them. i actually searched this forum to find out how to change my oil. people ask me why their car is acting up, and i'll say something stupid like "check your spring preload" or "maybe it's the spark plugs". V8's ARE THE EASY WAY OUT OF EVERYTHING! Puss n boots!

i'll agree with you on some of your points

ranger240 · 05-13-2010, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rb25_s13*CHUKI

blah blah blah blah.. whiney whiney whiney

240 had gt28,tune,STOCK cams,Nitrous, forged pistons n head gaskets. same car. v8 4 cyl. sr lost cause miss shift. they did It again. n the ls1 car lost pretty bad.

YouTube - Nismo Knights LS2 240SX vs Team Undergrounds Turbo/Nos 240SX

I'll post my video when It gets put online

missed shift? so what you're saying is...

the purpose of this thread was to project blame on another cars engine in compensation for the fact that you suck at driving

edit: thats not you driving... but ok... talk about junk power adders.... nitrous.. yeah ok...

"hey zilvia... naturally aspirated high hp cars are lame, but overbuilt high strung turbo nitrous 4 cylinders... those is cool"

rb25_s13*CHUKI · 05-14-2010, 12:39 AM

I just got bit a by fuckin spider.

***S14DB*** · 05-14-2010, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by rb25_s13*CHUKI

I just got bit a by fuckin spider.

and lost your thread at the same time...

When the OP doesn't give a shit about his thread I see no reason to keep it open.

ineedone · 05-13-2010, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by rb25_s13*CHUKI

I'm so sick n tired of seeing all these 240's n rx7's n everything with Ls v8 engines! I believe Its for people who simply can't handle building and tuning a proper 4 cylinder n don't have the balls to try, So they go the easy pussy way out and swap a v8. Then have the nerve to say oh I have a fast car! No shit sherlock you put a fucking corvette motor in your 240. anyone can do that and be fast. Then when they get beat by a mild sr with a gt28 they cry oh my engine is stock. just headers,intake,cam n tune. Oh really YOU HAVE A FUCKING V8 in the sam car I HAVE A FUCKING SR20 Inline 4. ! I hate v8 swapped cars they are for pussys. have fun arguing now. bye bye. P.s Next time mr v8 swapped car guy bring a real mans car or get run down by a little sr20 AGAIN with your ls2 blah blah blah.

anyone can swap a SR, be a real real man and rock the KA.

smink · 05-13-2010, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ineedone

anyone can swap a SR, be a real real man and rock the KA.

+1 Tehe. KA-love

Okinawandrifter87 · 05-13-2010, 07:45 AM

Haha Chad calm down. I agree with you Chad and I also agree with rb25_s13*CHUKI but I agree with him in the sense that I dont like the attitude that they give off how because they have the V8 they think they decimate anything. But Chad your right about a huge power band that is very acceptable to little mods to make big power, and still have great economy.

**ThatGuy** · 05-13-2010, 08:21 AM

Don't know if you've been doing any research on the matter or not.

But GM Performance Parts just released the "E-Rod" kit, which makes the LS3 swap into an OBD-I vehicle completely legal.

SR still can't claim that.

Besides, why are you letting what other people want to do with their vehicles get you so upset?

g6civcx · 05-13-2010, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ThatGuy

But GM Performance Parts just released the "E-Rod" kit, which makes the LS3 swap into an OBD-I vehicle completely legal.

I'm not sure if this is completely accurate. You can put a stock 2008 LS3 into any older car and still be legal.

At least in my state it is. Not sure about Cali.

**ThatGuy** · 05-13-2010, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by g6civcx

I'm not sure if this is completely accurate. You can put a stock 2008 LS3 into any older car and still be legal.

At least in my state it is. Not sure about Cali.

GM Performance Parts | E-ROD LS3 | The Future of Hot Rod Performance

FULLY emissions compliant, and fully legal for registration.
No need for "kit car" loop holes and such that have been used in various states for years now.

Comes with the harness, ECM, high flow cats...

REVOisGO · 05-13-2010, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by rb25_s13*CHUKI

I'm so sick n tired of seeing all these 240's n rx7's n everything with Ls v8 engines! I believe Its for people who simply can't handle building and tuning a proper 4 cylinder n don't have the balls to try, So they go the easy pussy way out and swap a v8. Then have the nerve to say oh I have a fast car! No shit sherlock you put a fucking corvette motor in your 240. anyone can do that and be fast. Then when they get beat by a mild sr with a gt28 they cry oh my engine is stock. just headers,intake,cam n tune. Oh really YOU HAVE A FUCKING V8 in the sam car I HAVE A FUCKING SR20 Inline 4. ! I hate v8 swapped cars they are for pussys. have fun arguing now. bye bye. P.s Next time mr v8 swapped car guy bring a real mans car or get run down by a little sr20 AGAIN with your ls2 blah blah blah.

lol, u mad.

check out some of GET MONEY's videos on youtube and then come talk to me about ls1 swapped cars. im kicking myself in the ass for going rb25, because they are so damn expensive to work on. ls1 is cheaper, more reliable, lighter, and faster. cant go wrong.

g6civcx · 05-13-2010, 08:53 AM

I have been roadracing stock single cam S13s since forever. About 7 years ago I started running SR since it was cheaper than rebuidling my single cams.

After running for 3 seasons, I decided to go with the Chevy V8 due to cost, reliability, and availability of parts. Note that I have the carbureted first-gen small block chevy, and not the LS series.

It's cheaper to buy anything for the small block.

It's reliable because of low compression and low revving.

If I need parts, I can run to any auto parts store and buy replacement parts. OEM parts are plenty. They even carry aftermarket parts like MSD, Edelbrock, etc. I don't have to "overnight parts from Japan"

In a pinch I can also run over to the drag strip or dirt track and borrow parts from the old school racers. I know that if I need a chevy small block part, 95% chances I can either borrow or buy it from one of the guys there.

I feel like I've paid my dues with these cars. I don't really compare my car with anyone else since I'm set up for roadracing.

I don't have the top end like turbo cars or even some of the newer V8 cars, but I'm set up for short road courses so you don't have enough time to use all the power. Response is more important than top end power.

For every 240 with V8 I've seen in person, which I've only seen 2 other than mine, I can name dozens of first time track newbies with their 400bhp high boost turbo engine, only to put their car into the wall by doing something silly like trying top out on the main straight or getting too much power due to turbo lag.

Still, it's their money and they can do what they want. I just try to avoid their group.

What I noticed is that guys who do roadrace often (not once or twice a year time-attackers) and who do choose to run turbos, they have very modest power mods and really low boost. If anything, they overbuild their cooling and oiling system more than power. I've even seen some of the instructors make people turn down their boost and even turn on the ac to reduce engine power.

Anybody who need to feel good by talking trash about other people's cars can go to hell, regardless of what you drive. Just do what makes you happy and just be cool about it.

aznpoopy · 05-13-2010, 09:00 AM

anyone can drive a car, be a real man and ride a bicycle

YouTube - Golden Boy - Blumchen - Bicycle Race

sdterrible1 · 05-13-2010, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by aznpoopy

anyone can drive a car, be a real man and ride a bicycle

YouTube - Golden Boy - Blumchen - Bicycle Race

This made my day lol!

Big Daddy 18det · 05-14-2010, 07:08 AM

Man this is one funny a$$ video........

YouTube - Golden Boy - Blumchen - Bicycle Race[/quote]

g6civcx · 05-13-2010, 09:11 AM

I saw that, but you know what I'm saying? You can gut an '08 Corvette and swap everything over to be legal.

They pretty much modeled the E-ROD after a federally certified configuration and packaged it as a crate engine. OBDII compliance would be tough since so much depends on the shell.

It'll cost more money though so kudos to GM for bringing the prices down on the crate engine.

**ThatGuy** · 05-13-2010, 09:16 AM

Yes, I understand what you're saying. Though it is easier to swap over to the Camaro headers vs. the Corvette headers in some vehicles.

Corvette headers typical dump in the middle, while the new Camaro headers have a more traditional rear discharge design.

Many aftermarket "long-tubes", remove your legality abilities in certain areas.

Teddy · 05-13-2010, 09:17 AM

Any S-Chassis or RX-7 that ever has had, has, or will have an American V8 engine in it always was, is, and always will be ultimately LAME.

People who swap V8s into their drift cars are nothing but a group of fucking rednecks who don't belong in drifting.

Nothing personal, at all.

wh0aitznic0 · 05-13-2010, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teddy

People who swap V8s into their drift cars are nothing but a group of fucking rednecks who don't belong in drifting.

I fucking love you.

Don't get me wrong, it's a powerful motor. It just doesn't belong in a 1990's secretarybox.

05-13-2010, 06:14 AM	#1
rb25_s13*CHUKI Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cali Age: 32 Posts: 2,759 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Ls swapped cars are lame!!!!! I'm so sick n tired of seeing all these 240's n rx7's n everything with Ls v8 engines! I believe Its for people who simply can't handle building and tuning a proper 4 cylinder n don't have the balls to try, So they go the easy pussy way out and swap a v8. Then have the nerve to say oh I have a fast car! No shit sherlock you put a fucking corvette motor in your 240. anyone can do that and be fast. Then when they get beat by a mild sr with a gt28 they cry oh my engine is stock. just headers,intake,cam n tune. Oh really YOU HAVE A FUCKING V8 in the sam car I HAVE A FUCKING SR20 Inline 4. ! I hate v8 swapped cars they are for pussys. have fun arguing now. bye bye. P.s Next time mr v8 swapped car guy bring a real mans car or get run down by a little sr20 AGAIN with your ls2 blah blah blah. __________________ Obliterate

05-13-2010, 06:15 AM	#2
rb25_s13*CHUKI Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cali Age: 32 Posts: 2,759 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	I can't believe he looked dead In my eyes and told me he only has headers,tune,cam n intake. Seriously thats your excuse? Really? anklfjsdgnsfoi gh2409wthg 0sflkh __________________ Obliterate

05-13-2010, 06:33 AM	#3
nathanong87 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: maryland Age: 33 Posts: 5,182 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	i dont really know what's happening but i think __________________ IG @nathanong87 --- Night ★ Life natelife.tumblr.com

05-13-2010, 11:35 PM	#9
rb25_s13*CHUKI Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cali Age: 32 Posts: 2,759 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Oh n heres a video of a Ls1 swapped Rx7- vs a normal v8 cobra. Wouldn't u think the light ass rx7 witha new manly v8 would womp on the heavy ass terminator? Lol waste of moneys! YouTube - LS1 RX7 FC V8 vs 500whp Cobra street race drag Or he could have done It right n be like this guy! YouTube - 407 whp rx-7 vs. 550+ whp 03 cobra rematch 2 of 2 There Is countless videos of v8 swapped rx7 n 240 getting womped on by cars It should SMASH with Its new powerplant so man like and tuff! If u seriously need a v8 to "drift" then you suck. Anyone can drift with a v8 swapped 240 or rx7. Push gas turn wheel n have fun. ITs a EASY way out no matter how you look at It. You see those single cam guys n corolla guys clutch kicking the whole damn time. Even some dual cams. Thats fun LOL. I like doing that. V8's ARE THE EASY WAY OUT OF EVERYTHING! Puss n boots! __________________ Obliterate

05-14-2010, 12:39 AM	#14
rb25_s13*CHUKI Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cali Age: 32 Posts: 2,759 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	I just got bit a by fuckin spider. __________________ Obliterate

05-13-2010, 06:53 AM	#5
Csomme Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: north carolinazzz Age: 30 Posts: 1,009 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	How is having an LS swapped 240 being a pussy? Have you ever drifted a car where you don't have to wait for torque and tach shit out all the damn time? It's a proven setup with a huge reliable powerband that greatly expands with just a few modifications. A cam and tune on even an LS1 will get you right about 500 to the wheels. Please shut the fuck up.

05-13-2010, 07:45 AM	#18
Okinawandrifter87 Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 3,959 Trader Rating: (22) Feedback Score: 22 reviews	Haha Chad calm down. I agree with you Chad and I also agree with rb25_s13*CHUKI but I agree with him in the sense that I dont like the attitude that they give off how because they have the V8 they think they decimate anything. But Chad your right about a huge power band that is very acceptable to little mods to make big power, and still have great economy. __________________ Driftphreak87

05-13-2010, 08:21 AM	#19
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 41 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Don't know if you've been doing any research on the matter or not. But GM Performance Parts just released the "E-Rod" kit, which makes the LS3 swap into an OBD-I vehicle completely legal. SR still can't claim that. Besides, why are you letting what other people want to do with their vehicles get you so upset? __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis

05-13-2010, 08:53 AM	#23
g6civcx Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 5,764 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	I have been roadracing stock single cam S13s since forever. About 7 years ago I started running SR since it was cheaper than rebuidling my single cams. After running for 3 seasons, I decided to go with the Chevy V8 due to cost, reliability, and availability of parts. Note that I have the carbureted first-gen small block chevy, and not the LS series. It's cheaper to buy anything for the small block. It's reliable because of low compression and low revving. If I need parts, I can run to any auto parts store and buy replacement parts. OEM parts are plenty. They even carry aftermarket parts like MSD, Edelbrock, etc. I don't have to "overnight parts from Japan" In a pinch I can also run over to the drag strip or dirt track and borrow parts from the old school racers. I know that if I need a chevy small block part, 95% chances I can either borrow or buy it from one of the guys there. I feel like I've paid my dues with these cars. I don't really compare my car with anyone else since I'm set up for roadracing. I don't have the top end like turbo cars or even some of the newer V8 cars, but I'm set up for short road courses so you don't have enough time to use all the power. Response is more important than top end power. For every 240 with V8 I've seen in person, which I've only seen 2 other than mine, I can name dozens of first time track newbies with their 400bhp high boost turbo engine, only to put their car into the wall by doing something silly like trying top out on the main straight or getting too much power due to turbo lag. Still, it's their money and they can do what they want. I just try to avoid their group. What I noticed is that guys who do roadrace often (not once or twice a year time-attackers) and who do choose to run turbos, they have very modest power mods and really low boost. If anything, they overbuild their cooling and oiling system more than power. I've even seen some of the instructors make people turn down their boost and even turn on the ac to reduce engine power. Anybody who need to feel good by talking trash about other people's cars can go to hell, regardless of what you drive. Just do what makes you happy and just be cool about it.

05-13-2010, 09:00 AM	#24
aznpoopy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 40 Posts: 5,013 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	anyone can drive a car, be a real man and ride a bicycle YouTube - Golden Boy - Blumchen - Bicycle Race

05-14-2010, 07:08 AM	#26
Big Daddy 18det Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2009 Location: Houston , TX Posts: 143 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Man this is one funny a$$ video........ YouTube - Golden Boy - Blumchen - Bicycle Race[/quote]

05-13-2010, 09:11 AM	#27
g6civcx Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 5,764 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	I saw that, but you know what I'm saying? You can gut an '08 Corvette and swap everything over to be legal. They pretty much modeled the E-ROD after a federally certified configuration and packaged it as a crate engine. OBDII compliance would be tough since so much depends on the shell. It'll cost more money though so kudos to GM for bringing the prices down on the crate engine.

05-13-2010, 09:16 AM	#28
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 41 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yes, I understand what you're saying. Though it is easier to swap over to the Camaro headers vs. the Corvette headers in some vehicles. Corvette headers typical dump in the middle, while the new Camaro headers have a more traditional rear discharge design. Many aftermarket "long-tubes", remove your legality abilities in certain areas. __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis

05-13-2010, 09:17 AM	#29
Teddy Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: AutoFactory REALIZE Posts: 5,213 Trader Rating: (44) Feedback Score: 44 reviews	Any S-Chassis or RX-7 that ever has had, has, or will have an American V8 engine in it always was, is, and always will be ultimately LAME. People who swap V8s into their drift cars are nothing but a group of fucking rednecks who don't belong in drifting. Nothing personal, at all. __________________ www.realize-jp.net

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