ranger240

that op bush quote is straight out of milton friedman's mouth. during his term bush wasnt the free marketeer that friedman was. Considering that the current administrations solution to everything is spending on a scale that dwarfs the last his objection is justifyable.

no one will ever remember bush as an economic genius but our current 1-2 punch of ridiculous government spending and condemnation of the private sector is dumb as hell, they arnt getting enough shit for digging us the long term hole we'll be in. objections from anyone are a welcomed addition.

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beeracing s14

you forgot about legalizing all jdm engines too.

imotion s14

How many times does a command economy model with it's "thought out" system have to fail for these idiotic ideas get buried? It doesn't matter what government runs that shit, it's always going to end up the same.

Markets are too complex for any 1 person, or even a group of smart people, or 1000 smart people to understand let alone plan it. How do you plan a system based on the individual decision of 217,000,000 adults in this country that changes every second with infinite variables?

hopeless.s13

http://www.youtube.com/v/kVFdAJRVm94&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0

satire FTW.

SimpleS14

LOL

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RJF

I'm in favor of being able to take my Social Security contribution and managing that money myself, because right now none of us will ever see one penny from Social Security when we retire.

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Bigsyke

I blame it on the people. People actually walk past me at work to specifically buy from my diverse co-worker. He knows nothing about the product, speaks unprofessionally on a catastrophic level, and has stolen CC/SSN #'s. Yet people keep flocking to him. Wonder why?

imotion s14

You don't need satire to be funny, the truth can be funnier.

example:

YouTube - The Obama Stimulus: Predictions vs. Reality

unlegendary

seen it, it's not pretty.

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Mi Beardo es Loco

I completely agree with RJF on the bailout. A good sign in the market is when the price of houses drop down to a very very reasonable amount. In 2000 the price of houses averaged about $100k in my area. The price quickly tripled and quadrupled. The sad thing about a bad economy is that people are going to HAVE to lose their homes to preserve the dollar. It's just what happens to people who made bad choices. It was obvious to me at 20 that this whole house of cards was going to crash, which is why I waited until the housing market got a little better to start a family, which is honestly the right and responsible thing to do. I just have no sympathy for people who lose their house because of bad loans. Sometimes some people are going to have to suffer for their actions, not get bailed out.

Now, is this ALL Obama's fault? Well, partly, yes. But wasn't the first $250billion loaned out by Bush to the banks with no restrictions? The bailout was supposed to cross party lines, yet the second Obama won the views of Republicans flipped.

Not only the bailout, but why aren't we out of Iraq? I'm pretty dissapointed in Obama thus far. And his comments on Iran.....give me a break. I just hope that he knows what he's doing.

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Mi Beardo es Loco

well, judging by the past 9 years, the majority couldn't manage their way out of a hole in the wall, let alone manage their own money for retirement.

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imotion s14

That doesn't justify the government running a ponzi scheme. SS will not be here when we retire. Even then every dollar you put into it, you only get a fraction back because of the inflationary monetary policy of the central bank.

Koopa Troopa

The Onion.

Want to know what will happen if you take the leash off of Israel? The Middle East will disappear. Israel is highly trained, highly funded and their military doesn't take bullshit. Israel destroyed Egypt in a week, made a Syrian airbase disappear over night and have only been tolerating Palestinian terrorists because we keep them on a leash.

Obama gave Palestine $900 million? Glad my tax dollars are going to support terrorism. Thanks Obama.

As far as the war in Iraq? That was just Dick Cheney's get rich quick scheme.

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Ethix

You commented on a reply I made about taxes and spending. That is the subject.

RJF

That was the scare tactic used by the Dems when GW Bush recommended overhauling Social Security and allowing Private Accounts, but his recommendation specified that you could NOT put the majority into the stock market, but had to put the money in secure long-term funds and bonds with a guaranteed return.

Well, bonds are out the window now, especially since Obama screwed the people that held bonds in the car companies and gave the majority ownership to the unions, but that was Bush's plan to overhaul SS.

Right now, SS is nothing but a government-sponsored Ponzi scheme.

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SimpleS14

I agree....kinda like an IRA, just without the taxes.

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WanganRunner

^^
It's actually nothing at all like that, because in this case it's a private corporation willingly allowing said broadcast.

Nothing about it is "state controlled", the state isn't FORCING ABC or any other private corporation to do anything.

You've just got your panties in a bunch because ABC is doing this for the Obama WH but wouldn't do it in a million years for the Bush WH. Is that wrong? Maybe so, but nevertheless, your beef is with ABC, not with the WH.

EDacIouSX

how did reagon fuck it up?



fyi how many years of governmental experience does palin have in comparison to obama?

1 year.

now i suppose people are goign to throw their hands up in the air and say one's governmental experience was a better preparation than the other.....


Remember this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDVUPqoowf8


i just have to laugh... That goes to show you what Biden thinks of obama haha.

imotion s14

He didn't fuck up per se, but he did sweep all the economic problems under the rug in the form of debt (about 1 trillion) which was manageable.

Cept every president after him just kept on passing the buck. Bush Sr did it relatively fast, Clinton slowed it down, Bush Jr stepped on the gas, and Obama hit the NOS button.

Now something that was manageable is now a boat anchor around the country's neck.

RJF

No, it's because they are not allowing opposing views to be heard. Several organizations against socialized healthcare wanted to purchase advertising before, during and after the Obama infomercial and ABC would not allow it. I'm sure that in exchange for ABC being "allowed" to air these programs the White House set certain conditions, among them no opposing views.

How is that not being like "state-controlled" media.

ABC can call itself the All Barrack Channel from now on.

Also, if you don't see that the entire media has a perpetual boner for Obama, you need to broaden your news viewing and reading choices.

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Grendel

"The media" includes fox news too. A fact fox news can't seem to grasp. Watch O'Reilly or Beck, they are constantly calling out "the media" for bad reporting.

It's ridiculous.

O'Reilly. Hannity, Beck, Olberman, Maddow, etc. They all just stir up their target audience. Who knows if they believe the half truths and they spout during their shows. Hey, it gets ratings and thats what matters.

If you want real news, I'd say read BBC. Maybe BBC is slanted too, but they report on a lot more issues than our channels do.

Reddit/Digg/etc are decent news sources too. For ever 100 dick jokes or lolcats you will see a legitmate story that you hadn't heard before.

RJF

Yesterday's Obama love-fest, I mean press conference, was another example of this administration controlling the media, this time by planting questions and having a blogger from Huffington Post ask the question.

If White House considers HuffPo as a media organization we're screwed. These are the same hacks that celebrated and wished Bush's Press Secretary (Tony Snow) ill-will when he was diagnosed with cancer.

How about the stories that the media doesn't cover or covers-up?

1. Obama's illegal firing of the AmeriCorps Inspector General
2. The election fraud charges and indictments against Acorn and Obama's close ties to that organization

plus many more

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drftmark

^ good point.

Obama ftl.

98s14inaz

Keep hoping lol

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So how's that change working out for you?

Top White House aide David Axelrod told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos today that the administration intends to explore a number of means by which it can overhaul the nation’s health care system, but refused to reaffirm then-candidate Barack Obama’s “firm pledge” to not raise taxes on middle class Americans.

“The president had said in the past that he does not believe taxing health care benefits at any level is necessarily the best way to go here,” said Axelrod. “He still believes that, but there are a number of formulations and we’ll wait and see.”

Obama has not always been open to “a number of formulations,” however. In fact, prompted by Republican accusations his tax plan would hurt middle class pocketbooks, Obama was quite adamant he would do no such thing. While campaigning in Dover, NH, Obama said, “Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes.”

Slow to fulfill campaign pledges or entirely reversing his position on others, the president has come under fire from the most loyal of Democratic Party activists, including the LGBT community and environmentalists, but waffling on his no-middle-class-tax-hike pledge stands to pit the irresolute president against a majority of the American voting public, not just disillusioned splinter groups.

After pressed on whether the president will draw “a line in the sand” by a persistent Stephanopoulos, Axelrod refused to take the bait and align the administration with any such ultimatum.

“One of the problems we’ve had in this town is that people draw lines in the sand and they stop talking to each other. And you don’t get anything done. That’s not the way the president approaches this,” he said.

The reason for President Obama’s now-obvious reticence to pursue campaign pledges—or make intractable ultimatums, for that matter—is quite simple. Keeping promises while juggling the competing interests of donors, activists, and voters is no simple feat. If you don’t make a promise, you can’t break it.

Then-candidate Barack Obama promised impossibilities—of a transparent government, of a new politics, of a hopeful and peaceful American—and performed little. Now-President Barack Obama promises nothing and yet he still performs little.

Administration Weighing New Middle Class Tax Increase - Jrichardson’s blog - RedState

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DeathMetal

How about slowly and carefully putting responsibility into the average americans hands. Cars, drugs, alcohol, whatever....

To me, it would make more people stand up and object to breaking the law for the thrills or whatever compels them to do so. Obviously, if half of us weren't paying court costs and ref tickets and probation fees and so on and so forth, we'd be spending our money on things that are much more useful... less jails, more economical vehicles/less cops and lawyers, more scientists and doctors....so on and so forth...

Would be much more profitable.

Don't need to comprise some bullshit reasons to why this would help beyond what I said. But just ponder it...

krissynbeau

Obama sucks

adam s

You seem to make some excellent points...

Either way you look at it, I've been out of a job for over 5 months now, gave up on the bullshit of finding one, started flipping cars, and am currently getting a dealers license.


Sure, starting a private business has probably never been harder than now, but who wants to work at Wendy's for the rest of their lives when every dealer in south TX is laying off techs right and left?

I am wholeheartedly against Obama, I'm not gonna lie, I was sucked in by his charisma and (now) bullshit, and I'm sorry I voted for him.

However, thats what happened, and now we just need to do the best with what we got.

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hopeless.s13

yea unfortunately that really is the situation. i wonder how the 2012 election is going to go.
Good luck getting your SmallBiz going... im working on something of my own too because jobs are just too unreliable out here. I just wish more californians had that mentality.
small businesses are the foundation of the economy, for the most part. but its so difficult to start and maintain one today because of all the damned tax laws....

Mi Beardo es Loco

Well, I think we would have been fucked either way. If McCain would have taken office Palin would have been on our TV's every day, preaching about how god rules and she follows god and what not. When a normal person I meet on the street mentions god, I'm ok with it but when a politician mentions god he's using god as a "do whatever the fuck I want to" card. I still think Ron Paul was the best choice, just wish those damn freaky 9-11 conspiracists would stay away from him.
speaking of Ron Paul, has anyone heard the amount of support that Ron Paul is getting for his bill to audit the Federal Reserve? Staggaring. He might be gaining steam!!!!

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