Future240

Lots of people running though most dems right now.

This is the thread for all that discussion.

That being said looking at what we have now I would pick Weld even though he has no shot in hell.




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Link for the political positions of the Democratic Candidates.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politi...ary_candidates


Profile for Weld
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_W...ntial_campaign


Profile for Trump
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald...ntial_campaign


Profile for Joe Walsh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Wa...ois_politician)

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kanyedian

Lol you literally made this thread after that comment

Idk. A few months ago I figured Sanders or Kamala Harris for the nominee. But there is so little change of Sanders getting the nod. The candidates are running so far left. But that's generally the nature for the primaries.

Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard on JRE was cool

Agamemnon

I feel like Bernie's time has come and gone. He's too old and has gotten more extreme in his views.

Kamala Harris I feel will be going into the primaries with some good momentum given her background.

I'm very interested to see how far Andrew Yang goes running on the UBI platform. It'll be fun to see how some conservatives view his policies.

I would love to see someone like Pete Buttigieg do well in the primaries.

kanyedian

It's funny how Beto has completely fallen off the map. I think Harris definitely scores some intersectionality points but she put a lot of people away as the DA in CA. I find myself liking some UBI ideas but who knows, that may just be my naïveté.
And omg I just remembered de Blasio put his name in the ring :Olawd:

singlecamslam

Trumps gonna win. The end.

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RalliartRsX

Kamala does not have the immigration policy down a of yet.

Pete showed really well on Fox surprisingly. Even got a standing ovation from the audience.

Bernie too old
Joe too old/baggage
Kamala has no real foreign policy or immigration ideas
Beto is lurking
And the remaining field of candidates are just hoping on the train to be there.

exitspeed

The last thing the Left wants is to run another old white guy. The party has moved too far left and towards socialism and its all about identity politics. The polls are showing the Left is least interested in voting for a white male. A women, a women of color, a man of color or a gay male all rank higher.

With that said Biden seems like the likely getting the nod at this point. The far left is going to reject him.

But it's early.

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Future240

Yep. That comment reminded me it was time.


Sanders is done. He is imo to old. I was a Bernie Bro back in the primaries as he seemed the most reasonable. But now with his talks of free everything and guaranteed jobs. I just cannot support him. He moved left to keep up with the dems. Harris and Booker both are a no for me. I have not gone through all the Dems yet but so far I have not found anyone I liked yet.





This is what I do not like about the current left. I am a moderate by nature. I see both conservative and liberal points. This push against the white male is something I cannot get behind. Politics should have nothing to do with race/gender/sexual orientation.

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There seems to be solid evidence for a push behind the #notwhitemale. Look up all the folks who sponsored the recent spat of abortion bills....and then look up how many of them have a clue on a woman's reproductive cycle. That and we are the only first world country who has NOT had a female in the white house.

I agree Future. However, the recent spat of bills is just one of many examples why I see a push to not have a white male

With that said, I really do like Pete. Young, charismatic, seems to have his footing and overall a well rounded human. Its nice to see someone so fluent in several languages, however still respects our Amendment rights. The two CAN exist with compromise vs what we have now on "My way or the higway!"

However, considering the bible thumpers, I cannot image the cog dissonance of most of the folks who are extreme 2nd Amendment right and anti-abortion followers to vote for a military vet, who is gay, who speaks several languages and still respects the 2nd amendment..........and oh snap, AND is a white male. I do agree with his stance; Fox News audience never had access to someone from the middle/left, so him appearing on Fox was a solid in my book.

That and he lacks the political baggage of just about every single Dem candidate.

Future240

My issue with the push against white males is the fact it is simply because they are white males. It is no different to me than people rallying for a woman simply because she is a woman. IMO both are equally as bad as it should be about policy and qualifications. I realize though not a lot of people feel that way. I know a lot of people who voted for Obama because he was black first and policy second.


I believe we push against bad policy vs look at the group identity of who is making the bad policy. Abortion is never going to be a solved issue. It will volley back and forth between the left and the right. Same with the 2a.




This article sums up my exactly feelings on Pete.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/3682707002/

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spooled240

It's because they are against racism and gender discrimination

Future240

Not all of them are.


https://arrow-journal.org/why-people...-white-people/


Some of the left support black only college housing. By definition that would be racist to exclude people from housing based on the color of their skin. It is literally what MLK stood against.


Some on the left try to say it is ok by victimizing us with the "poor black people" stint saying we need a safe space away from white people.


They can call it what they want but it is still racist. But double standards yo.


Because when white people tried the same thing it became a controversy
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...ocial-justice/

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spooled240

I was being sarcastic. Many of them are also open anti-semites or allow such anti-semetic BS in their party, it's nuts.

kanyedian

But the anti cis-gendered vanilla face males was started way before the recent pro-life moves in state legislations.

And we're the only country WITH a white house! ha

Maybe. But the RNC before Trump was elected had an openly gay speaker and he received a standing ovation. Much of America simply doesn't care about sexual orientation anymore, despite partisan propaganda on the issue.

It's the Oppression Olympics! Even universities last week stated they are going to create Adversity Scores to take into account an applicant's environment when applying to uni. Academia and Democrats are galloping to the left with the AOCs and Ilhan Omars of the world, and it is going to be a total shock to them when Trumpito is re-elected.





It's been almost three years since Trump got in and a huge percentage of America has still not accepted it. And they complained about the chance that HE would not accept the election results. The political leftists are on the fringe with a loud minority. Even all the polling of dems shows Biden ahead by double digits. It's going to be a long period of Republican presidents unless a popular centrist can blossom among the left.


Americans are also tired of deplatforming any human being with which the left disagrees. It's not even shady anymore; it's extremely transparent.

Future240

Ah AOC. That is one cause both the left and the right should unite against.


For the dem nomination I am thinking either Biden or Warren. Not my personal selection. More of who might actually get chosen.


But let's be honest. We have not had a one term president since 1992 so hate or like Trump the chance of his re-election is rather high.

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kanyedian

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!! There is no chance on Earth of her getting the nom! I'll bet you $10,000!! haha

feito

What everybody said, the left is completely unhinged and has become waaaay too radical. Seems like they're competing to see which candidate proposes the most radical policies, things that no even lord obama would have approved (at least back in his time), and all just to earn a group of voters that have completely gone insane due to their TDS.
That, plus the dems not doing a damn thing for the past 3 years except look for ways to get the potus out, I think is really gonna help good old trumpy.

Meanwhile, we got all these libs running away from their leftist "paradises", maintaining the same voting habits in their new refuges, spreading their blue cancer throughout the country... I really can't understand these people.

I dont know who will get the dem nomination, but I can tell you it wont be sanders or biden. While sander's policies are way out there with the rest of the cadidates, they are both old white males, which at the moment is one of the biggest redflags among dems, their enemy.

For me, the choice is very clear... remember, this is a car forum after all.

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I think he's a good potential candidate and look forward to seeing how he plays out in the primary debates.

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Thursday7

I find it funny how some think the Dems are getting too radical. They are still the same capitalists that they always were. It's obvious they are trying to be more palpable to people further left, as they always have, but I can assure you they are still going to fight the same battles Obama did. Appeasing billionaires, drone striking the middle east, etc. all while keeping up a façade of a down-to-earth dude in the White House.

This is not the revolution we are looking for, comrades.

PS diversity is cool, stop defending white males, sincerely, a white male.

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exitspeed

The push towards socialism is new. Bernie was the first one to get the hype going and AOC and the rest of the Democratic Party are running with the ball. These were views that even during the Obama years were laughed at. They now “seem mainstream”. I put that in quotes because it’s not. The media is just an echo chamber and the Left can’t see outside their bubble to see the majority of Americans ject these ideas.

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kanyedian

Mueller's press conference was meant to reiterate that there is no crime that can be charged to the pres. All the talking heads in the MSM are reporting that he said the opposite

Their viewers (even fewer than the number on Zilvia) are seriously pissed because they were promised collusion for two years.

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BOROSUN

I like Tulsi gabbard. She looks like rogue from X-Men.

kanyedian

About as good a reason to vote for any of them

ghost_silvia

I took Mueller's speech as they can't bring charges because it goes against the constitution. He left the ball in Congress's court to act accordingly. That law needs to be abolished.

Farzam

Need to update thread title to "2020 presidential race/white tears thread"

My politic opinions aside I think Trump will be re-elected. And I have no friggin clue who will end up running against him. Prob Biden because he's the most familiar household name, seems to be the motif behind elections as of late. The touchy-feely fiasco seems to be blowing over a little bit. If anything some left wing twitter trolls will start reposting creepy pics of Trump and his kids. Or creepy quotes.

As much as the right blames the media for shafting them, the left has been getting boned too. I think the average dem is a lot more moderate than what the right is being led to believe by "viral" news, which I could be wrong about but that's my opinion at least. Both sides seem to have their mascots for egregious behavior, the more sensible politicians don't get as much of a spotlight.

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midnight zenki

You should probably do some more research and re-watch the statement. Mueller stated that the Office of Legal Counsel which is under the Department of Justice in which the Special Counsel is beheld to, is bound by a ruling that states that no sitting president can be charged with a crime.

With that ruling set as precedence, Mueller could not at this time charge the president with obstruction of justice and specifically mentioned that the investigation did not exonerate Trump in respect to obstruction of justice.

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feito

Wtf does "cool" matter?
In the real world you want effectiveness, regardless of diversity. You want someone to get a job done, you hire the person most capable, regardless of their creed or sexual preference.
Note: reminding everyone of your personal preferences and pushing your own agenda on the bosses clock is not productive..

PS
The color of your skin is meaningless while expressing yourself. Stop being racist.

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