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***S14DB*** · 11-09-2006, 09:24 PM

Has anyone seen Full Race's Project R14? Full GTR drive line conversion.

http://www.full-race.com/r14/

sncs14 · 11-09-2006, 09:30 PM

Yeah, skimmed throught the Modified Mag article. All I can say is that shit is crazy!

g6civcx · 11-09-2006, 09:31 PM

My inquiry about their pending patent application has been ignored. They may be violating federal law. You can't use the patent-pending designation if you don't actually have one pending.

brown eyes · 11-09-2006, 09:38 PM

I don't see the point in having an AWD RB26DETT-powered S14.

I like the corner lights. I wonder where they got them from.

kove · 11-09-2006, 09:57 PM

im prety sure the owner of that car is on this forum

IronMonkey · 11-09-2006, 10:00 PM

I dont if hes here, but Im pretty sure hes over at freshalloy.

Boney · 11-09-2006, 10:03 PM

i saw this car at HIN in phoenix 2 weeks ago.. its hot.

vanish1 · 11-09-2006, 10:16 PM

Old news, but that shiz is hot...I want video immediately

A Spec Products · 11-09-2006, 10:50 PM

Full Race is gnarly.

corey240 · 11-09-2006, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brown eyes

I don't see the point in having an AWD RB26DETT-powered S14.

I like the corner lights. I wonder where they got them from.

your fucken retarded

Gnnr · 11-09-2006, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g6civcx

My inquiry about their pending patent application has been ignored. They may be violating federal law. You can't use the patent-pending designation if you don't actually have one pending.

Haha, didn't know that. Fight the Power!

Anyways, so besides the AWD what are the major advantages to this?

blackflag_Rms13 · 11-09-2006, 11:07 PM

Repost, but it deserved it's own topic anyways

PITCH · 11-09-2006, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gnnr

Haha, didn't know that. Fight the Power!

Anyways, so besides the AWD what are the major advantages to this?

My take is that it's basically a GTR in S14 clothing. It think they pretty much used every thing that was worthy from the GTR and placed them in a 240. Suspension front/rear, drivetrain, ect. And made improvments where nessary. AWD + 1000HP + 240 =

drift freaq · 11-09-2006, 11:41 PM

Sick? No doubt. Impressive yes. Cost effective? hehehehe no. Though I give them a A+++++++ for bad ass and doing and doing it well.

Dousan_PG · 11-10-2006, 12:22 AM

full race rules
always quality products and work
super nice too!

CKAMC · 11-10-2006, 02:55 AM

Geoff and Jon are still looking into weather or not to mass produce the kit to make a S14 AWD... hence why its patent pending.

saw the car 2 months ago ...I passed out when I first saw how clean and great it was

. Its still not completely done as its not fully tuned and possible upgrade of the quaif (sp?) diffs.

props to the locals for putting in a lot of hard work to make a quality one of a kind product... if you want to call the car a product of their work.

atom · 11-10-2006, 03:49 AM

I guess it's pretty wicked engineering wise but what's the point. Why buy a GTR that looks like a s-chassis when you could just get a real GTR which is like 10 times sicker.

g6civcx · 11-10-2006, 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CKAMC

Geoff and Jon are still looking into weather or not to mass produce the kit to make a S14 AWD... hence why its patent pending.

Can you put Geoff and Jon in touch with me, please? I'm not trying to bust their balls or anything, but the federal statute is very clear on it. Unless they have an application number, they should not put the "patent-pending" designation on that site. Refusing to acknowledge whether they have an application is at least unethical, if not misleading and bad business practise.

It will mean trouble for them if somebody finds out. It's like putting (TM) on something you don't actually own a trademark on.

*exitspeed* · 11-10-2006, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brown eyes

I don't see the point in having an AWD RB26DETT-powered S14.

I like the corner lights. I wonder where they got them from.

This is one of the most amusing posts I've read all week.

***S14DB*** · 11-10-2006, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atom

I guess it's pretty wicked engineering wise but what's the point. Why buy a GTR that looks like a s-chassis when you could just get a real GTR which is like 10 times sicker.

It weighs about 1,000 lbs more.

nonissan · 11-10-2006, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g6civcx

Can you put Geoff and Jon in touch with me, please? I'm not trying to bust their balls or anything, but the federal statute is very clear on it. Unless they have an application number, they should not put the "patent-pending" designation on that site. Refusing to acknowledge whether they have an application is at least unethical, if not misleading and bad business practise.

It will mean trouble for them if somebody finds out. It's like putting (TM) on something you don't actually own a trademark on.

are you the trademark police? those guys are pretty smart. i doubt they would do anything against federal laws (like drive a car on the street that is modified with a non-us legal engine/suspension/etc).....

zenki-217 · 11-10-2006, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g6civcx

Can you put Geoff and Jon in touch with me, please? I'm not trying to bust their balls or anything, but the federal statute is very clear on it. Unless they have an application number, they should not put the "patent-pending" designation on that site. Refusing to acknowledge whether they have an application is at least unethical, if not misleading and bad business practise.

It will mean trouble for them if somebody finds out. It's like putting (TM) on something you don't actually own a trademark on.

With the car being posted everywhere and mags knockin on the door for a photo shoot Im sure they have got all there legal squared away and if not more then likely in the process.. Why the hell do u keep bugging about it...? You think some one is gonna give you blu prints on this...

***S14DB*** · 11-10-2006, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zenki-217

Why the hell do u keep bugging about it...? You think some one is gonna give you blu prints on this...

Yeah, the patent office.

upSLIDEdown · 11-10-2006, 10:30 AM

I'd be a lot more impressed if they'd been able to get the ATESSA system to work.

nonissan · 11-10-2006, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by upSLIDEdown

I'd be a lot more impressed if they'd been able to get the ATESSA system to work.

damn, they almost had you.....

if you look on fa, you can see why they CHOSE not to use "attesa" and also went with a manual/manumatic torque split among other things (also maybe in that mag article?).

*fliprayzin240sx* · 11-10-2006, 01:49 PM

I just read the article 30 mins ago...pretty interesting. I wanna see what they meant by 2 e-brakes...and how the hell does it actually work as far as shifting the power between the front and rears.

If they actually decide to build the kits, i wonder how much it would be. If i use the Mckinney setup as a reference, this will prolly cuz atleast $8k just for th kits before the engine and GTR setup.

EDacIouSX · 11-10-2006, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corey240

your fucken retarded

i scrolled down to post #9 and said to myself "wow no one has flamed yet." then... i got to #10 and go figure................................

.

ANYWAY, this car and concept behind it looks pretty dope

atom · 11-10-2006, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S14DB

It weighs about 1,000 lbs more.

An R34, which is the heaviest of the recent GT-r's is about 3300-3400 lbs. So they are actually claiming that this car weighs in at 2300-2400 lbs? I call bullshit.

EDIT : Re-read the thread on FA and Geoff said it weighed in at 2980. So it weighs about 300 lbs less than a completely bone stock R32.

zenki-217 · 11-10-2006, 03:55 PM

I saw that all modifications to the chassis with twin down pipes everything needed and done minus the engine and tranny installed is
12k-14k

g6civcx · 11-10-2006, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nonissan

are you the trademark police? those guys are pretty smart. i doubt they would do anything against federal laws (like drive a car on the street that is modified with a non-us legal engine/suspension/etc).....

The discussion is about patents, not trademark. Do you know the difference? If not, post up and I'll be glad to educate you.

I am posting in my capacity as a consumer. I will not support companies who use false advertising to mislead the public. If it's indeed a mistake, they need to consult with their attorneys ASAP before irreparable damage is done to their business.

People lose their whole life's work over dumb stuff like this every day. I'd hate to see a good company go down over this stuff.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zenki-217

With the car being posted everywhere and mags knockin on the door for a photo shoot Im sure they have got all there legal squared away and if not more then likely in the process.. Why the hell do u keep bugging about it...? You think some one is gonna give you blu prints on this...

Quote:

Originally Posted by S14DB

Yeah, the patent office.

S14DB has the right idea, but it also depends on what kind of protection they're looking for. They may or may not disclose the "blueprints".

Listen up, all you kids who have never set foot inside a court room need to sit down and shut up. I'm trying to help out this company. If they can pull it off, and can get the whole swap federally legal, it will be a HUGE HUGE step forward for 240 owners. It would be one more option we would have. Whether you like it or not is a different story, but it will mean another vendor who can support the platform, which means more options and possibilities exist. Get that through your feeble brain.

Again, stupid things like this can and has brought down companies much bigger and much smarter than Full Race. I am very fond of their products and I don't want to see the company disappear.

Move on to the next topic of discussion, please.

11-09-2006, 09:30 PM	#2
sncs14 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Las Vegas Age: 38 Posts: 1,003 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: sncs14 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Yeah, skimmed throught the Modified Mag article. All I can say is that shit is crazy! __________________

11-09-2006, 09:38 PM	#4
brown eyes Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: City Posts: 289 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I don't see the point in having an AWD RB26DETT-powered S14. I like the corner lights. I wonder where they got them from. __________________

11-09-2006, 10:03 PM	#7
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11-09-2006, 11:41 PM	#14
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11-10-2006, 12:22 AM	#15
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11-09-2006, 09:24 PM	#1
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Full Race's Project R14 Has anyone seen Full Race's Project R14? Full GTR drive line conversion. http://www.full-race.com/r14/ __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact

11-09-2006, 09:31 PM	#3
g6civcx Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 5,764 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	My inquiry about their pending patent application has been ignored. They may be violating federal law. You can't use the patent-pending designation if you don't actually have one pending.

11-09-2006, 09:57 PM	#5
kove Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Santa Fe NM Age: 41 Posts: 57 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	im prety sure the owner of that car is on this forum

11-09-2006, 10:00 PM	#6
IronMonkey Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ga Posts: 532 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	I dont if hes here, but Im pretty sure hes over at freshalloy.

11-09-2006, 10:16 PM	#8
vanish1 Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Posts: 655 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Old news, but that shiz is hot...I want video immediately

11-09-2006, 10:50 PM	#9
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11-09-2006, 11:07 PM	#12
blackflag_Rms13 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,133 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Repost, but it deserved it's own topic anyways

11-10-2006, 02:55 AM	#16
CKAMC Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Desert Age: 34 Posts: 4,804 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Geoff and Jon are still looking into weather or not to mass produce the kit to make a S14 AWD... hence why its patent pending. saw the car 2 months ago ...I passed out when I first saw how clean and great it was . Its still not completely done as its not fully tuned and possible upgrade of the quaif (sp?) diffs. props to the locals for putting in a lot of hard work to make a quality one of a kind product... if you want to call the car a product of their work. __________________

11-10-2006, 03:49 AM	#17
atom Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 1,196 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I guess it's pretty wicked engineering wise but what's the point. Why buy a GTR that looks like a s-chassis when you could just get a real GTR which is like 10 times sicker.

11-10-2006, 10:30 AM	#24
upSLIDEdown Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: VA.. And for those that keep PMing me asking what kit I have, it's Origin Stream. Posts: 1,728 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I'd be a lot more impressed if they'd been able to get the ATESSA system to work. __________________

11-10-2006, 01:49 PM	#26
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	I just read the article 30 mins ago...pretty interesting. I wanna see what they meant by 2 e-brakes...and how the hell does it actually work as far as shifting the power between the front and rears. If they actually decide to build the kits, i wonder how much it would be. If i use the Mckinney setup as a reference, this will prolly cuz atleast $8k just for th kits before the engine and GTR setup. __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

11-10-2006, 03:55 PM	#29
zenki-217 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2006 Location: virgin islands Posts: 454 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I saw that all modifications to the chassis with twin down pipes everything needed and done minus the engine and tranny installed is 12k-14k

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