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OptionZero · 06-21-2008, 11:09 PM

Aside from the monetary concerns which would make any deal unlikely anyways, that's not true.

While Nellie does not "preach" defense the way JVG or Popovich might, he doesn't ignore it. After this past season, he certainly won't ignore it anymore. Last year he stuck with the same cast even though they stopped playing defense. Why? Because he didn't think Belinelli or Wright could play defense any better than the tired starters. I don't agree with his assessment, but his reasoning stands. Defense matters, it's just a different defensive system than is conventional.

Neither Ellis nor Barbosa is a point guard. Neither Ellis nor Barbosa can guard point guards. Barbosa certainly can't guard shooting guards (just watch GSW/PHX games, Nellie will post anyone on Barbosa just to abuse him inside).

Although Baron is the bigger of the two starting guards, he was given the PG assignments frequently, particularly when we needed stops in the beginning of the season. Why? Because Ellis is blessed with ridiculous speed, but doesn't use it to stay in front consistently. Moreover, he frequently got caught up on screens, losing his man in traffic.

Barbosa is no better.

You can't play two liabilities like that together, even if you're a 3P happy coach like Nellie.

Xandy Boosts · 06-21-2008, 11:28 PM

notice the wink at the end, I wasn't serious haha

anyone have the FIBA schedule?

Gnnr · 06-22-2008, 12:12 AM

Quote:

2008 Olympic Men's Basketball Schedule

Preliminary Rounds

August 10

9:00 a.m. Russia vs. Iran
11:15 a.m. Qualifier B vs. Angola
2:30 p.m. Spain vs. Qualifier C
4:45 p.m. Lithuania vs. Argentina
8:00 p.m. Australia vs. Qualifier A
10:15 p.m. USA vs. China

August 12

9:00 a.m. Iran vs. Lithuania
11:15 a.m. Qualifier A vs. Russia
2:30 p.m. Qualifier C vs. Qualifier B
4:45 p.m. China vs. Spain
8:00 p.m. Angola vs. USA
10:15 p.m. Argentina vs. Australia

August 14

9:00 a.m. Qualifier B vs. Spain
11:15 a.m. Australia vs. Iran
2:30 p.m. Angola vs. China
4:45 p.m. Lithuania vs. Russia
8:00 p.m. USA vs. Qualifier C
10:15 p.m. Argentina vs. Qualifier A

August 16

9:00 a.m. Qualifier C vs. Angola
11:15 a.m. Russia vs. Australia
2:30 p.m. Qualifier A vs. Lithuania
4:45 p.m. Iran vs. Argentina
8:00 p.m. China vs. Qualifier B
10:15 p.m. Spain vs. USA

August 18

9:00 a.m. Iran vs. Qualifier A
11:15 a.m. Australia vs. Lithuania
2:30 p.m. Qualifier C vs. China
4:45 p.m. Angola vs. Spain
8:00 p.m. USA vs. Qualifier B
10:15 p.m. Argentina vs. Russia

Quarterfinals - August 20

Time TBD Game 65: B2 - A3
Time TBD Game 66: A1 - B4
Time TBD Game 67: A2 - B3
Time TBD Game 68: B1 - A4

Semifinals - August 22

Time TBD Game 71: Winner 65 - Winner 66
Time TBD Game 72: Winner 67 - Game 68

Finals - August 24

12:00 p.m Bronze Medal/Game 76: Loser 71 - Loser 72
2:30 p.m. Gold Medal/Game 77: Winner 71 - Winner 72

Qualifiers A, B and C for the 2008 Olympics men’s basketball competition will be determined through the 2008 FIBA World Olympic Qualifying Tournament for Men that is scheduled for July 14-20, in Athens, Greece.

Times EDT

That first USA game should be interesting.

Rob's S14 · 06-22-2008, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by revat619

I'm just hoping the chance to be a legitimate contender will make the mid level salary acceptable for him. I mean, getting big bucks to play on a shitty team that isnt getting better any time soon is pretty pointless.

It's always about the money. Ask Joe Johnson, Marion, Marbury, Q Richardson, Arenas...I mean the list goes on and on.

ALTRNTV · 06-22-2008, 04:04 PM

^True, but those are still pretty young players
with a lot of years left. Artest is a veteran who
doesn't have too many years left in him. Ask Malone
and Payton.

Xandy Boosts · 06-22-2008, 04:13 PM

Artest shouldn't be worried about money since he had a rap album come out awhile back

kouki_s14 · 06-23-2008, 07:18 PM

Mitch Kupchak Exit Interview

http://www.nba.com/lakers/news/08exits_kupchak.html

Quote:

Here are some of the topics addressed by Kupchak:

His thoughts on the 2007-08 season.

Sasha Vujacic's status as a restricted free agent and how the team feels about bringing him back.

Ronny Turiaf's status as a restricted free agent and what he brings to the team.

The lineup next season that has the potential to be the biggest and longest in the NBA.

This year's unrestricted free agent class and how they pertain to the Lakers.

The gratification of seeing the city rally around this Lakers team like no other before.

What Andrew Bynum can add to next year's squad and what he means to the team.

Kobe Bryant playing in the Olympics.

The upcoming draft and how hard it is to get players to work out when the team only holds the #58 pick.

The Lakers entry in the Las Vegas Summer League and Coby Karl's participation.

*ziptiedae86* · 06-25-2008, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xandy Boosts

Artest shouldn't be worried about money since he had a rap album come out awhile back

Speaking of rap. Anyone see this clip of Shaq yet?

Fucked up...

[ame]http://youtube.com/watch?v=O225N65cStk[/ame]

Edit: hahah
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgeFmmtFbnM[/ame]

stiizy · 06-25-2008, 09:36 AM

^^ thats why he got cut off and he aint no deputy no more and i heard the NBA will issue something to him.. Shaq aint shit...

THE PROPHET · 06-25-2008, 10:05 AM

Just heard that Doc Rivers shirt that got soaked full of Gaotade by Paul Peirce at the end of game 6 was bought at an auction for $55,000!!

BOROSUN · 06-25-2008, 10:09 AM

kobe how does my ass taste.

shaq rules.

Rob's S14 · 06-25-2008, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AkademikONE

^True, but those are still pretty young players
with a lot of years left. Artest is a veteran who
doesn't have too many years left in him. Ask Malone
and Payton.

A little bit different imo. Malone and Payton were already HOF players who were willing to sacrifice to get that elusive ring. I don't think that's as important to a guy like Artest just yet. Plus those guys had already played for 15+ years. Artest still has atleast 5-7 years left barring injuries.

Xandy Boosts · 06-26-2008, 01:58 PM

It's Draft Day!

and crazy rumors are starting! I love draft day!

I like the rumored clips-heat deal!

OJ Mayo, in LA...that's pretty sweet although I hate the clips

**Phlip** · 06-26-2008, 02:51 PM

Looks like, according to the word on the street, that the Nets are trying to free up some moneys so LeBron can play for his boy Jay-Z when the nets move to Brooklyn:
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/8284462?MSNHPHMA

Gnnr · 06-26-2008, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xandy Boosts

I like the rumored clips-heat deal!

The Brand to Miami and Marion to Clippers one?

Gnnr · 06-26-2008, 08:45 PM

Well, looks like our best option was keeping Beasley!

I think they where trying to trade him but nothing good came up.

Edit: Just saw the commercial again for the ESPN special following Team USA. Its called "Road to Redemption Presented By Nike" and it will air July 2 on ESPN2. Looks very interesting.

Gnnr · 07-02-2008, 12:50 AM

Barron Davis going to the Clippers, didn't see that coming.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/column...clipper_080702

Already rocking some LA style.

Oh yeah, us having Wade, Marion, Beasley, and Chalmers- its gonna be a good season.

94cc0rd · 07-02-2008, 01:24 AM

So... this video was posted on clippersblog.

This is actually a close friend of mine that I went to high school with...

He's a die hard clipper fan..

[ame]http://youtube.com/watch?v=8d8PhKNKH0E[/ame]

**Phlip** · 07-02-2008, 07:14 AM

Wow, I didn't realize that the clippers HAD die-hard fans.
This is fucking NEWS to me

Rob's S14 · 07-02-2008, 10:46 AM

Actually there's a lot of die hard clippers fans. The fact that so many people go to there games even though they've been terrible. Even last year Staples was packed every time I went to a game. There's less celebrities that go because it's the place to be seen and prices aren't jacked way up. I'm just waiting for the Clips to move to Anaheim so I can buy season tickets. It will happen eventually I think.

norbac · 07-02-2008, 10:55 AM

only celebs that i can ever recall is billy crystal on a regular basis, golden state is going to make a move once they unload baron, but if they dont sign anyone, like arenas or anyone good, they will stink baron + brand + magette would be decent, need all to be healthy though

BOROSUN · 07-02-2008, 02:03 PM

dammit...
knicks got Danilo Gallinari
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYBt3mWRA2o"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYBt3mWRA2o[/ame]
hopefuly he'll do well.

starburry is back!!! watchout

norbac · 07-02-2008, 02:53 PM

with every year, sooo many players gets drafted and signed, from both colleges and international, its amazing to see how many geezers there are on teams, and by geezers i mean players in their 30s, haha, hows that even old

stiizy · 07-02-2008, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHLIP

Looks like, according to the word on the street, that the Nets are trying to free up some moneys so LeBron can play for his boy Jay-Z when the nets move to Brooklyn:
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/8284462?MSNHPHMA

I heard that too... i hope he does not that i'm a nets fan (lakers til death) but i want jay-z to get him on the team!!

norbac · 07-02-2008, 04:17 PM

lebron who? its all about that chinese guy that got traded, lol. so now theres talk about brand going to g.s and magette leaving

Rob's S14 · 07-02-2008, 04:28 PM

Where did you hear that?

Everything I've seen heard is that with Baron on board Brand isn't going anywhere just waiting for a new deal. Maggette on the other hand is about 50/50 I think. He's getting a lot of interest and from good teams so that might sway him away.

norbac · 07-02-2008, 04:55 PM

g.s 100 MEELLEEON DOLLARS to elton brand http://www.latimes.com/sports/basket...,2410090.story

Rob's S14 · 07-02-2008, 05:43 PM

well, as much as i like EB...he's not worth $20 mil.

norbac · 07-02-2008, 06:00 PM

amazingly, tiger makes more than that in a year

norbac · 07-02-2008, 06:01 PM

according to sports illustrated, he makes about 130 mil a year mostly from endorsement, wowee

06-21-2008, 11:28 PM	#62
Xandy Boosts Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Long beach Age: 35 Posts: 1,003 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	notice the wink at the end, I wasn't serious haha anyone have the FIBA schedule? __________________ it's a RUCKUS life Last edited by Xandy Boosts; 06-21-2008 at 11:51 PM..

06-22-2008, 04:13 PM	#66
Xandy Boosts Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Long beach Age: 35 Posts: 1,003 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Artest shouldn't be worried about money since he had a rap album come out awhile back __________________ it's a RUCKUS life Last edited by Xandy Boosts; 06-22-2008 at 05:22 PM..

06-25-2008, 10:05 AM	#70
THE PROPHET Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: covina, california Age: 33 Posts: 495 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Just heard that Doc Rivers shirt that got soaked full of Gaotade by Paul Peirce at the end of game 6 was bought at an auction for $55,000!! __________________

06-26-2008, 01:58 PM	#73
Xandy Boosts Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Long beach Age: 35 Posts: 1,003 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	It's Draft Day! and crazy rumors are starting! I love draft day! I like the rumored clips-heat deal! OJ Mayo, in LA...that's pretty sweet although I hate the clips __________________ it's a RUCKUS life

06-26-2008, 08:45 PM	#76
Gnnr Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: S. FL Posts: 3,960 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well, looks like our best option was keeping Beasley! I think they where trying to trade him but nothing good came up. Edit: Just saw the commercial again for the ESPN special following Team USA. Its called "Road to Redemption Presented By Nike" and it will air July 2 on ESPN2. Looks very interesting. __________________ Last edited by Gnnr; 06-26-2008 at 09:39 PM..

06-21-2008, 11:09 PM	#61
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 37 Posts: 6,262 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Aside from the monetary concerns which would make any deal unlikely anyways, that's not true. While Nellie does not "preach" defense the way JVG or Popovich might, he doesn't ignore it. After this past season, he certainly won't ignore it anymore. Last year he stuck with the same cast even though they stopped playing defense. Why? Because he didn't think Belinelli or Wright could play defense any better than the tired starters. I don't agree with his assessment, but his reasoning stands. Defense matters, it's just a different defensive system than is conventional. Neither Ellis nor Barbosa is a point guard. Neither Ellis nor Barbosa can guard point guards. Barbosa certainly can't guard shooting guards (just watch GSW/PHX games, Nellie will post anyone on Barbosa just to abuse him inside). Although Baron is the bigger of the two starting guards, he was given the PG assignments frequently, particularly when we needed stops in the beginning of the season. Why? Because Ellis is blessed with ridiculous speed, but doesn't use it to stay in front consistently. Moreover, he frequently got caught up on screens, losing his man in traffic. Barbosa is no better. You can't play two liabilities like that together, even if you're a 3P happy coach like Nellie.

06-22-2008, 04:04 PM	#65
ALTRNTV Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Conference Posts: 9,429 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^True, but those are still pretty young players with a lot of years left. Artest is a veteran who doesn't have too many years left in him. Ask Malone and Payton.

06-25-2008, 09:36 AM	#69
stiizy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NYC Age: 39 Posts: 6,332 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^^ thats why he got cut off and he aint no deputy no more and i heard the NBA will issue something to him.. Shaq aint shit...

06-25-2008, 10:09 AM	#71
BOROSUN Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: two legit to quit Age: 41 Posts: 5,211 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	kobe how does my ass taste. shaq rules.

07-02-2008, 12:50 AM	#77
Gnnr Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: S. FL Posts: 3,960 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Barron Davis going to the Clippers, didn't see that coming. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/column...clipper_080702 Already rocking some LA style. Oh yeah, us having Wade, Marion, Beasley, and Chalmers- its gonna be a good season. __________________

07-02-2008, 01:24 AM	#78
94cc0rd Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 35 Posts: 2,390 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: 94cc0rd Feedback Score: 8 reviews	So... this video was posted on clippersblog. This is actually a close friend of mine that I went to high school with... He's a die hard clipper fan.. [ame]http://youtube.com/watch?v=8d8PhKNKH0E[/ame]

07-02-2008, 10:46 AM	#80
Rob's S14 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Fountain Valley, CA Age: 40 Posts: 1,198 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Actually there's a lot of die hard clippers fans. The fact that so many people go to there games even though they've been terrible. Even last year Staples was packed every time I went to a game. There's less celebrities that go because it's the place to be seen and prices aren't jacked way up. I'm just waiting for the Clips to move to Anaheim so I can buy season tickets. It will happen eventually I think.

07-02-2008, 10:55 AM	#81
norbac Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: a nice place Posts: 165 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	only celebs that i can ever recall is billy crystal on a regular basis, golden state is going to make a move once they unload baron, but if they dont sign anyone, like arenas or anyone good, they will stink baron + brand + magette would be decent, need all to be healthy though

07-02-2008, 02:03 PM	#82
BOROSUN Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: two legit to quit Age: 41 Posts: 5,211 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	dammit... knicks got Danilo Gallinari [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYBt3mWRA2o"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYBt3mWRA2o[/ame] hopefuly he'll do well. starburry is back!!! watchout

07-02-2008, 02:53 PM	#83
norbac Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: a nice place Posts: 165 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	with every year, sooo many players gets drafted and signed, from both colleges and international, its amazing to see how many geezers there are on teams, and by geezers i mean players in their 30s, haha, hows that even old

07-02-2008, 04:17 PM	#85
norbac Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: a nice place Posts: 165 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	lebron who? its all about that chinese guy that got traded, lol. so now theres talk about brand going to g.s and magette leaving

07-02-2008, 04:28 PM	#86
Rob's S14 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Fountain Valley, CA Age: 40 Posts: 1,198 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Where did you hear that? Everything I've seen heard is that with Baron on board Brand isn't going anywhere just waiting for a new deal. Maggette on the other hand is about 50/50 I think. He's getting a lot of interest and from good teams so that might sway him away.

07-02-2008, 04:55 PM	#87
norbac Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: a nice place Posts: 165 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	g.s 100 MEELLEEON DOLLARS to elton brand http://www.latimes.com/sports/basket...,2410090.story

07-02-2008, 05:43 PM	#88
Rob's S14 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Fountain Valley, CA Age: 40 Posts: 1,198 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	well, as much as i like EB...he's not worth $20 mil.

07-02-2008, 06:00 PM	#89
norbac Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: a nice place Posts: 165 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	amazingly, tiger makes more than that in a year

07-02-2008, 06:01 PM	#90
norbac Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: a nice place Posts: 165 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	according to sports illustrated, he makes about 130 mil a year mostly from endorsement, wowee

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