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Nissanaholic!
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burglars in your home
so ive been thinking about it, and i was wondering if other people felt the same way as i do.
what i want to know is: if there was a burglar inside your house, would u kill them? or would you hesitate? or would you just force them out of your house? and question 2 (i guess? lol) : if you would kill them, do u think you would feel remorseful? interested on how people feel about this subject. |
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Shoot em' dead. Any remorse I might have would go right out the window when I looked at my wife, 12yr old son and 10mo old daughter. Florida's castle doctrine law makes this scenario a no-braineR
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We have make my day laws in Oklahoma no need to hide body's. The fam across the street from me had there front Door kicked it when they where gone. I keep my .45 with in arms reach I would drop some one fast. if they got the balls to kick a front door in then they would have no prob rapping and killing there victims and ill be damned if i let that hap to my fam.
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Nissanaholic!
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i like u guys. come be my neighbors haha. im glad to see other people feel the same way i do. i wasnt sure if it was normal to feel that way (the no remorse part) or if i was just crazy or somethin lol
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If you're in Cali, lol
Here in FL you can shoot them. I would not kill them unless they where armed with a gun themselves. I would shoot at legs to disable them so they can be taken into custody and off the streets.
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My roommate keeps a 9mm with hollow points under her bed. I keep a bat next to my door, being that I'm a fair bit more sadistic than she is. If somebody enters my house uninvited in the middle of the night, they'd better kill me or hope I don't wake up, otherwise, their chances of leaving alive are pretty low. And being that I live in Texas, the law would be on my side. Remorse? Perhaps, but unlikely. If I killed somebody on accident, sure, I'd be pretty torn up about it. But if somebody does something that pushes me so far into rage mode that I could kill? I dunno. I figure I'd probably feel kinda lousy that I was pushed that far, but i doubt I'd feel for that individual. I think any remorse I'd feel would be for the family of the intruder. Feel okay about taking a life can't be easy, regardless of the situation. |
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How would the cops really know what went down?
Sprinkle some crack on a home boy, plant a knife and boom.. reason to kill. I would break old shit i don't need, then sue him for it. (tv, ps2, old laptop.) Then go to his place (getting the address on id.) and take all of his cool things from him. Then probably call their parents, and drink milk after.
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You're more likely to get in trouble for hurting a burglar than you are for killing a burglar. This applies to most states. Except Cali. In Cali, if a burglar cuts his hand on a knife in your kitchen, you'll probably face a lawsuit... And lose. lol |
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Aslong as they are inside your house and you feel threatened you can shoot them.
I had a LEO tell me that if you shoot them and they land outside your door, then you better drag them inside quick.
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I would kill them.
I would probably hesitate. I sure as hell wouldn't feel good about it. no piece of property is worth anybody dying for, but I have zero confidence that a person who breaks into my home will share that same sentiment towards my life, my fiance's life, or my animals lives for my things. I live in California.
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So you are awaken by a sound in your house, you go to investigate it and there is a dude with something in his hands. You shoot and kill the guy. You are in the right. It's YOUR house, you have every right to protect your life. It is A.R.S. 13-418, revised in 2006 by SB 1145. Main point: A person (homeowner) is justified in threatening to use or using physical force or deadly physical force against another person if the person (homeowner) reasonably believes himself or another person to be in imminent peril of death or serious physical injury and the person (intruder) against whom the physical force or deadly physical force is threatened or used was in the process of unlawfully or forcefully entering, or had unlawfully or forcefully entered a residential structure or occupied vehicle or had removed or was attempting to remove another person against the other person's will from the residential structure or occupied vehicle. |
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Nissanaholic!
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burglar breaks into house, falls on meat cleaver, sues homeowner, wins. |
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Something to watch out for that's getting big around here. Sketchy door to door salespersons. They ring the bell and if you come to the door they give some stupid half assed sales line. If you don't answer they break in, park in the garage, shut the door, load your goods, open garage door, leave like it never happened. Couple of fat chicks selling avon or marie kay got busted. They got caught when they left one person's stuff in another person's house. I guess the next house had more cool shit so they unloaded some of the less cool shit and left prints.
Breaking into a person's house is fucking low. To violate someone's home, their place of sanctuary. I might call it self defence but it would be execution by my hand, if not in defence of myself then in prevention of perpetuation. I'd rather be judged by twelve than let them be. |
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Zilvia FREAK!
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All this "okay to kill if they're in your house"... know your local laws. It's not all the same everywhere. "Zilvia told me it's okay" isn't gonna work in court.
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I'd do the same as limelight ,but mabe without the singing part...Lol
I mean think about it even if your states law dosent permit such a thing just tell the cops he tried attacking you.... It's your word VS. A dead guys word.. I mean shit hes in your house for shit sake. |
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which leads me to wonder... with the economy the way it is, why aren't more "burglars" breaking into mansions, doing just that, and suing for a payday? |
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Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong. I failed my first California Law class midterm with the same mindset. Believe it or not there has to be certain circumstances that have to come into play to have justifiable cause to kill. Everything has to be within REASON, not irrationality. You cant just simply blast the stranger into an oblivion.(Ill edit this post once I get home and dig up my old class notes regarding this, we did a whole class lecture covering this). The law is alot looser though on the other hand for things such as restraining. EDIT: Heres the CA law on it: - Caljic 5.42 or also known as People V. Pimentel. o A person who may defend his home or dwelling against anyone who manifestly intends or endeavors in a violent or riotous manner, to enter that home or dwelling and who appears to intend violence to any person in that home or dwelling. The amount of force which the person may use in resisting the trespass is limited by what would appear to a reasonable person, in the same or similar circumstances, necessary to restist the violent or unlawful entry. He is not bound to retreat even through a retreat might safely be made. He may resist force with force, increasing it in proportion to the intruders persistence and violence if the circumstances which are apparent to the homeowner or lawful occupant of the property are such as would excite similar fears and a similar belief in a reasonable person.
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Well this may be off topic but what would you do if someone held you at gun point and asks your for money but you don't have any(cause I never carry cash) and he makes you take him to the bank? Happened to me last week.
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Nissanaholic!
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take the gun from them and cap his ass.
theres always a point where someone isnt paying attention. just have to catch them off guard. i dont "negotiate with turrists". thats terrorists for those who dont speak george bush. |
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