BustedS13

UGH

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staygold24

what a shame. I like those over lightnings. Dont they have awd? I think they run like a 12.9 stock in the quarter.

svensko

Hell, I would've given $5000 for that Corvette. I hate this program.

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Touge Noob S13

What a waste, thank you government

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randomxzero

:speechless:

FRpilot

i wish 240sx qualified. i have 2 of them i want to trade in.

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HyperTek

man what a shame, yeah i like those vettes too.

but considerin some of those are are probably worth 2-4k , dont feel too bad, just feel bad they are destroying them. The government should just sell them to foreign countries or something

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steve shadows

Can you believe how wasteful the government is guys?

This is purely insane.

You can't even re-sell the engine parts later to make some money

The government should be taking all of the cars traded in and selling them for money in lower in-come countries to any willing buyers so they can make some of your money back.

In the end it IS NOT FREE MONEY, it's YOUR TAX MONEY that they are ALLOWING you to get a piece of and then to add inslut to injury they destroy a perfectly good car COMPLETELY no NO F**KING REASON.

If there is one final proof of having bigger government or any government have controls of finanical or regulate business/commerce this should be proof.

How more wasteful can you be?

I would trust a 16 year old beginning drifter who just bought his first 240sx much more than any PHD in DC who thinks this is a way to be MORE EFFICIENT, it's insulting to even a mentally disabled persons intelligence.

Even if the end goal is to get inefficient cars off the road FOREVER< most of those parts are interchagable or can be used for some other purpose or even in newer model cars for repairs after some re-furbishing, but if you use the silicate glass compound to destory the engine those parts become so worn and overheated they are totally unusable in the future.

The government doesnt need to be efficient because it knows there are plenty of stupid brain washed Americans who will march right in and vote for Candidates who will just raise their taxes even more, instead of CUTTING their own paychecks to help you out.

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GSXRJJordan

^^^ Agreed Steve. This program makes me sick. Like most of you, I'm going to be paying for this borrow-hungry, bailout-happy government style for the rest of my working life.

My taxes are going up because some douchebag wants to cash in on $4.5k by trading in his perfectly good car (it has to run to qualify!) on a new one. Like everyone else said, at least GIVE them away to third-world countries, at least that would be in line with Obama's world apology tour mentality.

I hear stories about people trading in perfectly good trucks with like 60k miles for new ones just for shits and giggles, because they can, and I can't blame them really. It certainly does make me want to punch someone in the face though...

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ryguy

On a Jeep Cherokee forum there was a Saab that got traded in, the trade in value was $4450. It even had OEM navigation, ran perfect, GREAT condition.

I am so pissed at this program that I went as far as to write my Senator. They could have given these clunkers to park rangers or some other municipality, or low income families that are driving rusted to shit, oil burning steel behemoths, who could never hope to afford a new car even through the Cash for Clunkers program. Then they would be "helping the environment" and all that shit even more.

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HyperTek

^but then people will bullshit to get a free car

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jamg

so exactly what cars are qualified?

and exactly what cars are you able to purchase with this cash for clunkers thing?

ryguy

It wouldn't be much harder to prove than it would be to prove that a car is eligible for Cash for Clunkers. Just make requirements like the car being replaced has to have been registered for the past x years by the same owner, and the value of the car being replaced has to be under $2000, or possibly can't pass inspection/emissions. Then, impose a % tax on the "clunker"'s fair market value.

Or, since that would probably screw a whole lot of used car dealers, I have another idea. Trade the best of the "clunkers" for the worst of the cars at those shitty used car lots in the ghetto. Shit, there are so many better ideas than trashing a perfectly good car that passes inspection.

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ryguy

The car being traded in has to get less than 18 combined MPG. The car you are purchasing has to be brand new, and the tax deduction you get depends on the MPG of the new car.

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rat240

damn and i thought if was for only the cars the ran like shit
from the pictures i saw from the link busted posted all those car look like they ran perfect

Matej

Top Ten Cash for Clunkers Trade-Ins:

1. 1998 Ford Explorer
2. 1997 Ford Explorer
3. 1996 Ford Explorer
4. 1999 Ford Explorer
5. Jeep Grand Cherokee
6. Jeep Cherokee
7. 1995 Ford Explorer
8. 1994 Ford Explorer
9. 1997 Ford Windstar
10. 1999 Dodge Caravan

Homer_Simpson

"ryguy", found this for you.

singlecamslam

Haha look at all those fords. Not a single Japanese car or European car. American car companies need to step up and make reliable shit.

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FRpilot

it''s not actually a tax deduction. you are thinking of a tax "credit".

the car has to get 18mpg or lower. the amount you receive depends on the new car's mpg rating. you get $3500 if you buy a new car that gets 4mpg or better than the one you traded in and $4500 if you buy a new car that gets 10mpg or better than the one you traded in.

the dealer who sells you the car deducts the amount from the cost of the new car you buy and then they get that money back from the government. win-win for you since you get to trade in your used fuel hungry car "clunker" and for the auto industry since they sell more cars.

the government is thinking this law will kill two birds with one stone in that they get gas drinking vehicles off the road to be crushed and that it will help the economy/auto industry by stimulating more sales. usually, the gas guzzlers are big suvs, trucks, and vans with shitty mpg rating that run perfectly fine. i have no idea why the call it cash for "clunkers". it's kind of catchy, but i think by having that slogan, people will think they are trading in an old car, which most of the time is the case.

most people who normally won't buy a new car will jump in, just as the housing credit has enabled some new home owners to consider buying a house. it has worked so far, as only $1B was scheduled for this and it ran out. another $2B has just been issued for the program to continue.

yes us taxpayers are sharing the cost of this program. federal taxes are going to raise no matter what, as government needs more funding, regardless if obama or mccain became president. we knew the economy wasn't going to recover for this president's 4 year term anyways (but let's not turn this into a political debate)

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murda-c

They were all suvs and vans, which nobody wants anymore, and ford explorers were the best selling of the SUVs so of course they were traded in the most.

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hOngsterr

shit i wonder if u can buy those "clunkers"

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BustedS13

WELL, CONSIDERING THEY'RE REQUIRED TO BE LICENSED/INSURED FOR A YEAR BEFORE TRADEIN, I'D SAY THEY'RE RUNNING JUST FINE.

the reason they're on the list is they have low combined EPA MPG. NOT BECAUSE THEY'RE ACTUALLY "CLUNKING".

READ A FUCKING NEWS ARTICLE SOMETIME.

FUCK YEAH CAPSLOCK

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ryguy

You're more than welcome to buy them, as long as you don't mind the engine being full of liquid glass. A recycler can resell parts from the car, so I would bet you can get the whole car from them. Just swap in a new engine.

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98s14inaz

I feel it is too little too late. They should have done this CARS "cash for clunkers" thing right away instead of just handing a blank check to GM/Chrylser. The money would have been better regulated and people would have been buying new cars. Two birds with one stone. Let the people speak, if no one bought GM/Chrysler products with their clunker rebate they should have failed and closed up shop.

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Bubbles

The more it seems you fuck up in life the more the government bails you out and just puts added stress on the people who actually take care of themselves.

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Mi Beardo es Loco

ok guys, Im one of the biggest conspiracy theorists on here but even I recognize the importance of something like this. First off, AMERICAN auto workers keep their jobs. Not only that but little subdivisions, such as steel and paint providers get a boost. We put money in to get production out. Plus it helps the environment and safety of our streets. I say this program should remain open for pretty much ever.

In the grand scheme of things were only spending 2 billion on this program. Theres people who scream and yell that its frivolous spending but its the best thing this regime has come up with YET (and I admit that he hasnt done very well so far)! Not only that but weve spent that exact amount in Iraq every week for how long now? But when the money goes directly back to AMERICANS people bitch and complain.

Honestly here, this might be the program that kick starts us out of the recession. Dont be so negative

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ILoveMyRHS13

Here's the CHANGE you guys wanted.

Fucking deal with it.

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ixfxi

i like how the rx8 and the nsx are BOTH on the trade-in list


yeah......... im gonna trade in my nsx............ sure

Mi Beardo es Loco

Well, in 95 I bought a 69 Camaro in unbelievable shape for a grand. Sometimes people do stupid things.

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98s14inaz

This should have been done first, not giving out a blank check and hoping it gets to the right place. Oh yeah, hope was one of the things this administration is built on right? Figures.

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