Suspension: S14 Front Spindle wont fit into S13 Ball joint? - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

Nismobound · 01-12-2011, 02:14 AM

Hello fellow Techs,

I just installed S14 Front Spindles and they're not sitting in the A Arm ball joint very well. It seems that the ball joint on a S13 is bigger than the S14 ball joint hole. It isn't sitting very flush with the bottom of the A arm or even near it. Also the nut on the top of the ball joint thread doesn't clear the cotter pin hole. It's hard to get a angle to push the spindle down far enough, I just got a ball joint puller today i could use it to also press the spindle further down the ball joint. Any ideas??

LMK. Thanks!

iLagX · 01-12-2011, 02:39 AM

impact gun!! power tools will fix it. haha. but your suppose to be running s14 control arm or s14 ball joint on s13.

az_240 · 01-12-2011, 02:58 AM

S13 and S14 front ball joints are DIFFERENT. Do NOT try using this combo. You will most likely break something which would be bad news if you are cruising.

S13 = S13

S14 = S14

Do not try mixing them

mad-ass · 01-12-2011, 04:56 AM

since S14 LCA's are harder to find, here's easier solution.

buy new ball joints for S14, Moog part number K9820
find a J30 Front LCA.

problem solved.

Steve Lloyd · 01-12-2011, 06:40 AM

Is the J30 LCA as long as the S14 control arm?? I know the S13 arm is shorted than the S14.

mad-ass · 01-12-2011, 06:54 AM

J30 and S14 LCA's are same length. and identical location/diameter holes for the ball joint and tension rods.

Pandapants · 01-12-2011, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mad-ass

J30 and S14 LCA's are same length. and identical location/diameter holes for the ball joint and tension rods.

nice!

yeah, like az_240 said, you use the same balljoints as the spindle.

Nismobound · 01-12-2011, 11:56 AM

Ok Thanks everyone! i think i might just go Moog ball joints.

1slowM6 · 01-12-2011, 02:27 PM

If you get j30 lca are the balljoints the same as s14?

Nismobound · 01-14-2011, 07:12 PM

Will the S14 ball joint fit into the S13 LCA hole?

az_240 · 01-15-2011, 02:28 AM

S13 Front
Taper low diameter 15.8mm
Taper High diameter 18mm
Taper length 19.5mm
Diameter where it presses in 41mm

S13 Rear, R32 Rear
Taper low diameter 15mm
Taper High diameter 18.6mm
Taper length 23mm
Diameter where it presses in 38mm

R32 Front. S14 F&R , S15 F&R
Taper low diameter 15mm
Taper High diameter 18.6mm
Taper length 23mm
Diameter where it presses in 41mm

^Here is the info you need.

olah.inc · 03-10-2011, 07:48 AM

So the s14 balljoint fits in the s13 lca hole?

Sileighty_85 · 03-10-2011, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by olah.inc

So the s14 balljoint fits in the s13 lca hole?

Yes.
msglght

01-12-2011, 02:14 AM	#1
Nismobound Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NoRcal Age: 32 Posts: 515 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	Suspension: S14 Front Spindle wont fit into S13 Ball joint? Hello fellow Techs, I just installed S14 Front Spindles and they're not sitting in the A Arm ball joint very well. It seems that the ball joint on a S13 is bigger than the S14 ball joint hole. It isn't sitting very flush with the bottom of the A arm or even near it. Also the nut on the top of the ball joint thread doesn't clear the cotter pin hole. It's hard to get a angle to push the spindle down far enough, I just got a ball joint puller today i could use it to also press the spindle further down the ball joint. Any ideas?? LMK. Thanks!

01-12-2011, 04:56 AM	#4
mad-ass Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 2,273 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	since S14 LCA's are harder to find, here's easier solution. buy new ball joints for S14, Moog part number K9820 find a J30 Front LCA. problem solved. __________________

01-12-2011, 06:54 AM	#6
mad-ass Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 2,273 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	J30 and S14 LCA's are same length. and identical location/diameter holes for the ball joint and tension rods. __________________

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01-12-2011, 02:39 AM	#2
iLagX Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: 626/714 Posts: 2,940 Trader Rating: (40) Feedback Score: 40 reviews	impact gun!! power tools will fix it. haha. but your suppose to be running s14 control arm or s14 ball joint on s13.

01-12-2011, 02:58 AM	#3
az_240 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phx Posts: 3,097 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	S13 and S14 front ball joints are DIFFERENT. Do NOT try using this combo. You will most likely break something which would be bad news if you are cruising. S13 = S13 S14 = S14 Do not try mixing them

01-12-2011, 06:40 AM	#5
Steve Lloyd Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: florida Posts: 182 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Is the J30 LCA as long as the S14 control arm?? I know the S13 arm is shorted than the S14.

01-12-2011, 11:56 AM	#8
Nismobound Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NoRcal Age: 32 Posts: 515 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	Ok Thanks everyone! i think i might just go Moog ball joints.

01-12-2011, 02:27 PM	#9
1slowM6 Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2010 Location: florida Age: 30 Posts: 62 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If you get j30 lca are the balljoints the same as s14?

01-14-2011, 07:12 PM	#10
Nismobound Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NoRcal Age: 32 Posts: 515 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	Will the S14 ball joint fit into the S13 LCA hole?

01-15-2011, 02:28 AM	#11
az_240 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phx Posts: 3,097 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	S13 Front Taper low diameter 15.8mm Taper High diameter 18mm Taper length 19.5mm Diameter where it presses in 41mm S13 Rear, R32 Rear Taper low diameter 15mm Taper High diameter 18.6mm Taper length 23mm Diameter where it presses in 38mm R32 Front. S14 F&R , S15 F&R Taper low diameter 15mm Taper High diameter 18.6mm Taper length 23mm Diameter where it presses in 41mm ^Here is the info you need.

03-10-2011, 07:48 AM	#12
olah.inc Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Germany Age: 35 Posts: 261 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	So the s14 balljoint fits in the s13 lca hole?