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ALTRNTV · 01-28-2008, 06:00 PM

You know who the Knicks should fire? Thomas.

**Phlip** · 01-28-2008, 08:18 PM

Based upon the events of this season so far, the ONLY person who could win the MVP not named Kobe Bryant without me storming David Stern's office with an angry mob would be Kevin Garnett.

yudalicious · 01-28-2008, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHLIP

Based upon the events of this season so far, the ONLY person who could win the MVP not named Kobe Bryant without me storming David Stern's office with an angry mob would be Kevin Garnett.

At this moment, my vote goes to CP3, you CANNOT leave him out of the discussion at the least.

ALTRNTV · 01-28-2008, 10:43 PM

^
I agree. Hornets have won 9 straight...

yudalicious · 01-28-2008, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AkademikONE

^
I agree. Hornets have won 9 straight...

Good. If you don't CP3 will punch you in the 'nads... just kidding. He's so interesting to watch, zips around w/ the ball like a yoyo, fast but never in a hurry...reminds me of the great John stockton.

ALTRNTV · 01-28-2008, 11:05 PM

In my opinion, I think he's the best pure point guard in the league right now, even above Nash.

yudalicious · 01-28-2008, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AkademikONE

In my opinion, I think he's the best pure point guard in the league right now, even above Nash.

I will agree to that. He's assist to TO ratio is very good. I will go one step further and say he's the best overall point guard period in the league right now.

ALTRNTV · 01-28-2008, 11:10 PM

I forgot the fact that he's only 22...

**Phlip** · 01-29-2008, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AkademikONE

In my opinion, I think he's the best pure point guard in the league right now, even above Nash.

I think that honestly moves Nash to #3, then, because as a total package, Jason Kidd is a better point guard than Nash is too, if only based on the fact that he is not a defensive liability.
*NEWS*
Jason Kidd finally gotten smart and is trying to get the fuck out of Jersey:
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/7734242?MSNHPHMA

Xandy Boosts · 02-01-2008, 01:42 PM

First big trade (Well big to me!)

Lakers acquire Pau Gasol for Kwambe, JCrit, and 2 future 1st rounders!

Alot of people were on Javaris Crittenton so many didn't wanna trade him. But I love the way Jordan Farmar has been playing. Good news for Laker fans!

ALTRNTV · 02-01-2008, 01:43 PM

TRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADE

Quote:

Originally Posted by ESPN.COM

The Memphis Grizzlies will send Pau Gasol and a future second-round pick to the Lakers for Kwame Brown, Javaris Crittenton, the unofficially retired Aaron McKie , the draft rights to Pau Gasol's brother Marc and future first-round picks in 2008 and 2010, NBA front-office sources told ESPN.com's Marc Stein.

It is believed that the Lakers would need to arrange a sign-and-trade for McKie to make the salary cap math work for the deal. McKie is not currently playing in the NBA but his rights are owneed by the Lakers.

According to The (Memphis) Commercial Appeal, which also reported the trade, the Grizzlies decided to move ahead with trading Gasol because the team felt it could not longer move ahead with him off or on the court -- and that the acquisition of Brown, who is earning $9,075,000 in the last year of his contract, would provide the franchise salary cap relief.

The Commercial Appeal also reported that the Grizzlies are sending Stromile Swift to the New Jersey Nets for center Jason Collins. The Grizzlies and Nets have been discussing that deal for the past week and expect to finalize it on Monday, according to the report.

Swift met with Grizzlies coach Marc Iavaroni and general manager Chris Wallace on Friday, was sent home and did not practice with the team and will not play in Saturday's game against Utah, the newspaper reported.

Gasol will play the C position until Bynum returns, then Gasol will slide to the PF position.

C- Bynum
PF- Gasol
SF- Odom
SG- Bryant
PG- Fisher

We finally got rid of Stone Hands Brown, for someone who can actually do something with the ball, and can shoot anywhere on the court.

**Phlip** · 02-01-2008, 01:46 PM

^^^ That makes now the time for Pau Gasol to prove that he was good enough to want to be traded. The pieces moved out in exchange were good in my opinion, though. Kwame Brown's hands are terrible and he will NEVER be worth the #1 pick he was.

ALTRNTV · 02-01-2008, 01:53 PM

All we got to do now is trade No-Show Odom...

Gasol will extend the defense even further out, now that we have a
big man who can shoot, and drive the ball also.

P.S. Last night's game was a disappointment. They came back after
being down, then gave the game away. Lamar with the airball at
the end of regulation.

Xandy Boosts · 02-01-2008, 01:59 PM

I was UPSET last night man....

I can't wait for ARIIIZZAAAA and Bynum to get back!

imnotmatt1189 · 02-01-2008, 02:44 PM

i am so happy......AJKSDFKLSJFLKSDJFKLJSDKLFJ

lakers are gonna freaking dominate!!!!!!!!!!

Xandy Boosts · 02-01-2008, 02:44 PM

new sig

anyone know if pau is playing tonight against toronto? lakers front line will be VERY thin with only ronny up front if he doesnt

ALTRNTV · 02-01-2008, 02:53 PM

^
You got that sig from CLubLakers huh? lol

Xandy Boosts · 02-01-2008, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AkademikONE

^
You got that sig from CLubLakers huh? lol

yea I jus added the bynumite part and took out the CL logo shhhhh

**Phlip** · 02-01-2008, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AkademikONE

All we got to do now is trade No-Show Odom...

Gasol will extend the defense even further out, now that we have a
big man who can shoot, and drive the ball also.

P.S. Last night's game was a disappointment. They came back after
being down, then gave the game away. Lamar with the airball at
the end of regulation.

Between work and home, I thought of something.
Odom at the 3
Gasol at the 4
Bynum at the 5 when he returns.

... Odom is not forced to play second option, falling into a more comfortable role as a small forward who is longer than most he will come up against, making him definitely attention-worthy to any 4 looking to rebound. He would also be in that space he was in behind Dwyane Wade and Caron Butler in Miami, which actually made him look like he was worth having on a team. This could all work out in the end.

ALTRNTV · 02-01-2008, 04:11 PM

Yea, that was my line-up from earlier.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AkademikONE

C- Bynum
PF- Gasol
SF- Odom
SG- Bryant
PG- Fisher

I also heard that Memphis is going to buy-out Kwame's contract, and he's
gonna sign the MLE contract. That basically means we got Gasol for Crittenton
and 2 1st-rd draft picks. Not bad, we keep Brown and his defense and his big body.
I'm still waiting for a confirmed source though. Props to Mitch Cupcake.

The Lakers were a championship contender when Bynum was healthy, now we
have Gasol, that has to bolster our chances significantly.

Kobe, Farmar, Odom, and Fisher can all penetrate to the middle with no real fear
of the opposing C or PF blocking them, since Gasol will be extending them to the 3-pt line,
and if they do face them, just kick it out to Gasol for the trey.

See you all in June at the Laker parade.

PHLIP, June is the time you should plan a trip
down here.

Xandy Boosts · 02-01-2008, 04:39 PM

Mitch Cupcake worked his magic wand alright big time!

I'm loving our bench big time right now though. Farmar, Ariza, Vujacic, Turiaf.
I always hoped Sasha would come up big for LA. Love how he has no fear, and loves to take that shot. And he's a pesky little defender that pisses everyone off.

OptionZero · 02-01-2008, 05:49 PM

Odom's not a 3- he doesn't have the consistent outside shot where he just catches and shoots; he can't defend smaller 3's fulltime.

I'm expecting Odom + Farmar for Kidd or Artest any second now.

Damn the Grizzlies. They should have at least extracted Odom or Farmar or Ariza somehow.

The same thing happened in Minnesota- McHale SHOULD have gotten the #5 pick for Garnett, but waited too long like a little bitch.

**Phlip** · 02-01-2008, 05:54 PM

Odom doesn't NEED a consistent jumper, so long as Gasol is on the floor and Derek Fisher and Kobe Bryant have pulses... I would be more than comfortable making him the 3 in a HUGE lineup.
The Lakers are having to work too hard to maintain team chemistry as it is, and Jason Kidd is currently unaffordable for what they would have to unass to get him. Let us ALSO not forget that he is 35, has had microfracture on both knees and wants a new contract... THAT, sir, is scary, even if he is one of the top 2 point guards in the league.

ALTRNTV · 02-03-2008, 01:39 AM

I guess I was a little soft from my earlier post. It is over.
Bryant+Fisher+Odom+Gasol+Bynum
Who can match up to that? The league wasn't this scared
when KG went to the Celtics. Fear the Lakers.

2007-2008 NBA Finals
Los Angeles Lakers vs Boston Celtics
Lakers in 6

See you all at the parade.

Here are some responses from other NBA forums:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DISTRAUGHT FANS

You mean other than their small forward being bigger than our center?
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our being pretty delusional right now. look how well they played full strength and then add a gasol? damn. i was scared of the lakers before with bynum playing so well, now the suns chances are slim against them.
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Anyone here work for the INS or State Department? There has to be a way to mess with Gasol's visa or papers.
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Too bad Amare won't be matched up with Gasol, he'll get Andrew Bynum who has owned Stoudemire in their two meetings this season. Gasol will get Shawn Marion and Grant Hill will get Lamar Odom. That should be interesting experiment to see how many games you can win when the other team gets an offensive board on every possession.
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some people are ignoring that this is Phil Jackson and this is a team with decent players.... and a BIG frontline. With Gasol's scoring and more than enough rebounding ability... combined with Odom's and Bynum's good rebounding ability. That front court will pretty much beat the Suns by themselves.... and OH.... forgetting no.24....
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Maybe the NBA will change the rules and make offensive rebounding illegal.
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West ain't there anymore. Griffin would have been, but he turned the job down.

I'm pretty sure Kupchak has nude pics of Memphis management.

This sucks a-word(edited).
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It's not even a question, the Lakers are CLEARLY better than us now Lebron or not.

Their front line is all over 6'10 and capable of dropping a double double. They will be a great rebounding team and have 2 7 footers around the rim to block shots. Bigs win in the NBA as proven by our team and that is one helluva front line any way you want to spin it.

Then consider they kept all their best bench players like Farmar and Turiaf, and have a great offensive/defensive backcourt with Fisher/Bryant, AND have Phil Jackson - a HOF Coach..it's not even close and I hate the Lakers.
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damn the lakers are stacked at the big. ugh.

with gasol roaming 10-15ft out the basketball, imagine seeing kobe cuttin in and layin the smackdown on some fool tryin to box out. wow!!!

Most of those had me busting out laughing.

OptionZero · 02-03-2008, 01:58 AM

There were rumblings of Phoenix being interested in Shaq for Marion and Diaw. I thought it was absurd until HoopsWorld more or less confirmed there was at least a discussion.

Odd decision, as Shaq seems the anti-suns, but if Shaq miraculously gets healthy (hrm, maybe not playing for a shitty team would help...), that's quite a scary combination: Nash, Amare, Shaq, Hill, Bell, and Barbosa off the bench.

oh yeah, how bout Kidd to Houston or Dallas and Artest to Denver.

It's like a freakin' arms race.

ALTRNTV · 02-03-2008, 02:50 AM

I don't think Shaq is a good fit in Phoenix's system. They are a run-n-gun team, very fast paced. Then you have O'neal, who is on the verge of retirement. His overall physical shape and condition is deteriorating. He is not in shape, his knees and joints just have too much mileage on them. He doesn't have anything left to prove, he's one of the best centers ever and a multiple NBA Champion.

Utah with 9 straight wins and Boston's perfect record against the West. Impressive.

Xandy Boosts · 02-03-2008, 03:21 AM

Sweet, a hoopsworld visitor. Too bad their forum isn't as active as it used to be. I hope phoenix trades for shaq, makes them less scary. Shaq will just slow the suns down. Just like in Miami, when they were better with Alonzo in the lineup.

**Phlip** · 02-03-2008, 07:32 AM

Phoenix is already UNscary, does anyone remember how any team who has a center who has even decent footwork owns Amare? Does anyone notice how ANY team with a point that can dribble and distribute the ball and hit open shots exposes Steve Nash as a defensive liability?
I have the Suns making the playoffs, but they have far missed their chances at winning a championship. Shaq would also be a horrible look for Phoenix, I don't think there are many people they would be able to add who would make them any better than they are right now.

ALTRNTV · 02-04-2008, 01:44 AM

imnotmatt1189 · 02-05-2008, 12:37 AM

^ hahhaha kobe looks so happy in the 1st pic.

oh man i can't wait to see gasol play as a laker!!!!!

02-01-2008, 01:42 PM	#100
Xandy Boosts Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Long beach Age: 35 Posts: 1,003 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	First big trade (Well big to me!) Lakers acquire Pau Gasol for Kwambe, JCrit, and 2 future 1st rounders! Alot of people were on Javaris Crittenton so many didn't wanna trade him. But I love the way Jordan Farmar has been playing. Good news for Laker fans! __________________ it's a RUCKUS life

02-01-2008, 01:59 PM	#104
Xandy Boosts Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Long beach Age: 35 Posts: 1,003 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I was UPSET last night man.... I can't wait for ARIIIZZAAAA and Bynum to get back! __________________ it's a RUCKUS life

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Xandy Boosts Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Long beach Age: 35 Posts: 1,003 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	new sig anyone know if pau is playing tonight against toronto? lakers front line will be VERY thin with only ronny up front if he doesnt __________________ it's a RUCKUS life

02-01-2008, 04:39 PM	#111
Xandy Boosts Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Long beach Age: 35 Posts: 1,003 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Mitch Cupcake worked his magic wand alright big time! I'm loving our bench big time right now though. Farmar, Ariza, Vujacic, Turiaf. I always hoped Sasha would come up big for LA. Love how he has no fear, and loves to take that shot. And he's a pesky little defender that pisses everyone off. __________________ it's a RUCKUS life

02-03-2008, 03:21 AM	#117
Xandy Boosts Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Long beach Age: 35 Posts: 1,003 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Sweet, a hoopsworld visitor. Too bad their forum isn't as active as it used to be. I hope phoenix trades for shaq, makes them less scary. Shaq will just slow the suns down. Just like in Miami, when they were better with Alonzo in the lineup. __________________ it's a RUCKUS life

01-28-2008, 06:00 PM	#91
ALTRNTV Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Conference Posts: 9,429 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You know who the Knicks should fire? Thomas.

01-28-2008, 10:43 PM	#94
ALTRNTV Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Conference Posts: 9,429 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^ I agree. Hornets have won 9 straight...

01-28-2008, 11:05 PM	#96
ALTRNTV Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Conference Posts: 9,429 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	In my opinion, I think he's the best pure point guard in the league right now, even above Nash.

01-28-2008, 11:10 PM	#98
ALTRNTV Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Conference Posts: 9,429 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I forgot the fact that he's only 22...

02-01-2008, 01:53 PM	#103
ALTRNTV Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Conference Posts: 9,429 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	All we got to do now is trade No-Show Odom... Gasol will extend the defense even further out, now that we have a big man who can shoot, and drive the ball also. P.S. Last night's game was a disappointment. They came back after being down, then gave the game away. Lamar with the airball at the end of regulation.

02-01-2008, 02:44 PM	#105
imnotmatt1189 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 1,118 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	i am so happy......AJKSDFKLSJFLKSDJFKLJSDKLFJ lakers are gonna freaking dominate!!!!!!!!!!

02-01-2008, 02:53 PM	#107
ALTRNTV Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Conference Posts: 9,429 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^ You got that sig from CLubLakers huh? lol

02-01-2008, 05:49 PM	#112
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 37 Posts: 6,262 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Odom's not a 3- he doesn't have the consistent outside shot where he just catches and shoots; he can't defend smaller 3's fulltime. I'm expecting Odom + Farmar for Kidd or Artest any second now. Damn the Grizzlies. They should have at least extracted Odom or Farmar or Ariza somehow. The same thing happened in Minnesota- McHale SHOULD have gotten the #5 pick for Garnett, but waited too long like a little bitch.

02-03-2008, 01:58 AM	#115
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 37 Posts: 6,262 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	There were rumblings of Phoenix being interested in Shaq for Marion and Diaw. I thought it was absurd until HoopsWorld more or less confirmed there was at least a discussion. Odd decision, as Shaq seems the anti-suns, but if Shaq miraculously gets healthy (hrm, maybe not playing for a shitty team would help...), that's quite a scary combination: Nash, Amare, Shaq, Hill, Bell, and Barbosa off the bench. oh yeah, how bout Kidd to Houston or Dallas and Artest to Denver. It's like a freakin' arms race.

02-03-2008, 02:50 AM	#116
ALTRNTV Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Conference Posts: 9,429 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I don't think Shaq is a good fit in Phoenix's system. They are a run-n-gun team, very fast paced. Then you have O'neal, who is on the verge of retirement. His overall physical shape and condition is deteriorating. He is not in shape, his knees and joints just have too much mileage on them. He doesn't have anything left to prove, he's one of the best centers ever and a multiple NBA Champion. Utah with 9 straight wins and Boston's perfect record against the West. Impressive.

02-04-2008, 01:44 AM	#119
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02-05-2008, 12:37 AM	#120
imnotmatt1189 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 1,118 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	^ hahhaha kobe looks so happy in the 1st pic. oh man i can't wait to see gasol play as a laker!!!!!

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