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DreamN · 08-17-2010, 03:36 PM

Ford Mustang Boss 302 - BBC Top Gear

Just checked my Facebook and saw this posted by Top Gear's page.

Also, saw that Inside Line posted up an article about it as well.

2012 Mustang Boss 302 Aims To Steal Dream Cruise Limelight

I'm a huge fan of the new Mustang and even though the colors of the 302 aren't my thing (Silver one isn't too bad), this car is effin' lovely.

They also have a "Laguna Seca" model that has the rear stripped and caged with Recaros. Definitely would love to give this a test drive.

HyperTek · 08-17-2010, 05:27 PM

i hear that. Im liking the new mustangs too.
Wait til people dial out the suspension. Never been a fan of the rear axle but some people can work magic with those.

Its not the best looking car, but the idea of a fresh new car and just smashing on the road sounds good lol

DreamN · 08-17-2010, 05:44 PM

I'm 50/50 on the looks. I agree that as far as the "retro-esque" cars popping out it's not the best looker, but I do love that front end a whole lot more than the previous one.

Either way for the money this gives a lot of cars priced higher a run in the performance department. The fact that Ford felt the need for "Stripped" down version is what wins me over the most. Poor mans Carrera RS anyone? lol

lok · 08-17-2010, 06:02 PM

car and driver will still find the BMW to be better.

az_240 · 08-17-2010, 06:05 PM

New mustangs look like a chick version IMO... cool that it's beating M3s though.

DreamN · 08-17-2010, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lok

car and driver will still find the BMW to be better.

That's a given no matter what a BMW is up against. Besides no one mentioned anything about the Ford being better than the BMW. It's simply put out better lap times.

Quote:

Originally Posted by az_240

New mustangs look like a chick version IMO... cool that it's beating M3s though.

Chick version? Well, Ford has always catered the V6 model to women so if the car appeals to women as well, they're doing their job. Similar to what Nissan did with the 240SX.

***S14DB*** · 08-17-2010, 06:39 PM

I hope that graphics package is vinyl not paint.

Looks like a boy racer special. Rims look like cheap knockoffs. The Laguna Seca badge is totally knocking off the Nurembergring spec car badges with the track outline in it.

Speaking of Laguna Seca. Interesting choice because it's "Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca." Mazda has a Partnership with Ford. Laguna Seca is an awesome track but, I don't think they chose it because of it's provenance.

I would still take it any day over a M3. I would rather have a car I can maintain for $400 a year in my driveway then $4k at the dealership. I just think the paint job and the Laguna Seca tie in are bullshit.

stinky_180 · 08-17-2010, 07:13 PM

I digg it!

ZX88 · 08-17-2010, 07:18 PM

the m3 really isnt all that impressive.

Its a great car. but by sportscar standards now its really nothing special.

Id still rather drive an m3 than the boss.

ronmcdon · 08-17-2010, 07:46 PM

440hp is some 28hp over the stock 5.0's 412hp.
It's not a lot, but welcome nonetheless.

I guess it all depends on how much better this car handles & brakes over the 5.0
Of course it also depends on pricing.
Article predicts from 35-40k
A base 5.0 is close to 30k
A 5.0 w/ brembos (need to get the premium trim in addition) is close to 35k.

If it's 35k, that's reasonable.
40k is pushing it, unless that's for the Laguna Seca model with built-in cage & seats.
(yes, I'm willing to pay that considering it's from the manufacturer w/ warrantee).

Not enthusiastic about the color themes, but I like the orange.

VROOOM · 08-17-2010, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S14DB

I hope that graphics package is vinyl not paint.

i like the graphics. its exactly like the original Boss 302. dont really think it would look right with out the graphics.

sleep · 08-17-2010, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S14DB

Nurembergring

you mean Nürburgring

codyace · 08-17-2010, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S14DB

I hope that graphics package is vinyl not paint.

Looks like a boy racer special. Rims look like cheap knockoffs. The Laguna Seca badge is totally knocking off the Nurembergring spec car badges with the track outline in it.

Speaking of Laguna Seca. Interesting choice because it's "Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca." Mazda has a Partnership with Ford. Laguna Seca is an awesome track but, I don't think they chose it because of it's provenance.

I would still take it any day over a M3. I would rather have a car I can maintain for $400 a year in my driveway then $4k at the dealership. I just think the paint job and the Laguna Seca tie in are bullshit.

I hear ya, I'd rather just a plane jane non riced out one for me.

sigh

someday my modern mustang, with no frills/radio/anythign will exist....

'97 S14 SE Turbo · 08-17-2010, 10:59 PM

supposedly, the new Boss mustangs also comes with adjustable shocks, as well as tunable exhaust, for different notes.

DreamN · 08-17-2010, 11:16 PM

yup adjustable suspension.

***S14DB*** · 08-18-2010, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VROOOM

i like the graphics. its exactly like the original Boss 302. dont really think it would look right with out the graphics.

The red one is fine. The black one is an abortion. I would take the blue one with out the silver roof..

codyace · 08-18-2010, 09:47 AM

I wish they made that without any of the red accents

VROOOM · 08-18-2010, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S14DB

The red one is fine. The black one is an abortion. I would take the blue one with out the silver roof..

i think the Laguna Seca one is pretty ugly. although im sure it performs. i like the regular Boss 302 much better. if they are still selling them in a few years, im going to trade my Evo in on one.

my dad used to own a 70 Boss 302. might be one reason i like them so much.

Matej · 08-18-2010, 12:01 PM

Ford did a really good job at tricking people into believing that the new Mustang looks good.

drift freaq · 08-18-2010, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matej

Ford did a really good job at tricking people into believing that the new Mustang looks good.

LOL ya good point. Seriously they look great in commercials and from certain angles on the road but when I get next to one it just seems to damn tall dimensionally.

I like the concept, I like what they are doing, I want to like the car. I have a real issue with the whole tall bodyline. Oh and the rear tail section looked better in the previous version. The new angled rear tail section is odd looking.

Oh and I would never buy a new BMW. LOL

ZX88 · 08-18-2010, 03:52 PM

tail lights are neat.. well the turn signals are.

*exitspeed* · 08-18-2010, 04:21 PM

I can't hate on anything about this car except the graphics. Buy it and peel that shit off ASAP. Special edition Mustang's are less then a dime a dozen so who gives a shit about it's value right now. 30 years from now people are going to be disappointed when they realize their "special edition" Mustang isn't worth what they expected because there was 20 different special editions in one model year alone.

HyperTek · 08-18-2010, 05:13 PM

gotta remember majority of mustang fans love the whole "big american muscle" thing, so for ford to actually make this thing compete with a higher end european car, is pretty good.

Cant wait to see some tastefully modded ones that arent all "KnightRider" ished out with big ol chrome wheels and tacky kits.

***S14DB*** · 08-18-2010, 06:32 PM

I like the look of the 2011 C/S. Gets rid of the hideous chrome rims.

I really would like to see the specifics on what makes this so much better then a stock 5.0?

Quote:

Originally Posted by drift freaq

I like the concept, I like what they are doing, I want to like the car. I have a real issue with the whole tall bodyline. Oh and the rear tail section looked better in the previous version. The new angled rear tail section is odd looking.

The bodyline is not that high in person IMHO. The 350z is higher. The new Camaro and Challenger are insanely high. The trend is higher for side impact safety with all cars.

The 45's in the rear flow a lot better then the flat ass of the 07-09.

VROOOM · 08-18-2010, 06:53 PM

here is a list
makes 440hp 390tq
exhaust that can be changed to side exit for track use
upgraded clutch
short throw shifter
retuned stability and traction control
revised electric steering
stiffer springs
larger anti roll bars
adjustable shocks
3.73 rear end with carbon plates
little interior things
recaro's available
brembo upgrade is stock

an article that includes that
http://jalopnik.com/5612179/ford-mus...really-is-back

ronmcdon · 08-19-2010, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VROOOM

i think the Laguna Seca one is pretty ugly. although im sure it performs. i like the regular Boss 302 much better. if they are still selling them in a few years, im going to trade my Evo in on one.

my dad used to own a 70 Boss 302. might be one reason i like them so much.

Think the worst part's the orange wheels.
Replace that with something subtle and it would improve.

codyace · 08-20-2010, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VROOOM

here is a list
makes 440hp 390tq
exhaust that can be changed to side exit for track use
upgraded clutch
short throw shifter
retuned stability and traction control
revised electric steering
stiffer springs
larger anti roll bars
adjustable shocks
3.73 rear end with carbon plates
little interior things
recaro's available
brembo upgrade is stock

an article that includes that
Ford Mustang Boss 302: The Boss Really Is Back

It's things like this that make me love Mustang more

FWIW: My parents have a '10 and lovvvvve it.

VROOOM · 08-24-2010, 10:07 PM

it seems the regular 5.0 GT is all you need against an M3. Motor Trend ran them both around Streets of Willow. there was a .09 second difference between the M3 and 5.0 GT

2011 BMW M3 Coupe vs. 2011 Ford Mustang GT Comparison - Motor Trend

codyace · 08-24-2010, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VROOOM

it seems the regular 5.0 GT is all you need against an M3. Motor Trend ran them both around Streets of Willow. there was a .09 second difference between the M3 and 5.0 GT

2011 BMW M3 Coupe vs. 2011 Ford Mustang GT Comparison - Motor Trend

While true, .09 in the hands of a most drivers, isn't promising a win for either side. The Boss changes that.

VROOOM · 08-24-2010, 10:38 PM

i just find it amazing that a run of the mill Mustang GT is serious competition for an M3. 5 years ago people would laugh if a comparison between a GT and an M3 was done.

08-17-2010, 03:36 PM	#1
DreamN Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SoCal - 818 Age: 36 Posts: 10,691 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: DreamN Feedback Score: 54 reviews	New Boss 302 Faster Than M3... Nice! Ford Mustang Boss 302 - BBC Top Gear Just checked my Facebook and saw this posted by Top Gear's page. Also, saw that Inside Line posted up an article about it as well. 2012 Mustang Boss 302 Aims To Steal Dream Cruise Limelight I'm a huge fan of the new Mustang and even though the colors of the 302 aren't my thing (Silver one isn't too bad), this car is effin' lovely. They also have a "Laguna Seca" model that has the rear stripped and caged with Recaros. Definitely would love to give this a test drive. __________________ - Jimmy Wanted: TBD For Sale: TBD

08-17-2010, 05:27 PM	#2
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,222 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	i hear that. Im liking the new mustangs too. Wait til people dial out the suspension. Never been a fan of the rear axle but some people can work magic with those. Its not the best looking car, but the idea of a fresh new car and just smashing on the road sounds good lol __________________ Keep it Classy

08-17-2010, 05:44 PM	#3
DreamN Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SoCal - 818 Age: 36 Posts: 10,691 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: DreamN Feedback Score: 54 reviews	I'm 50/50 on the looks. I agree that as far as the "retro-esque" cars popping out it's not the best looker, but I do love that front end a whole lot more than the previous one. Either way for the money this gives a lot of cars priced higher a run in the performance department. The fact that Ford felt the need for "Stripped" down version is what wins me over the most. Poor mans Carrera RS anyone? lol __________________ - Jimmy Wanted: TBD For Sale: TBD

08-17-2010, 06:39 PM	#7
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I hope that graphics package is vinyl not paint. Looks like a boy racer special. Rims look like cheap knockoffs. The Laguna Seca badge is totally knocking off the Nurembergring spec car badges with the track outline in it. Speaking of Laguna Seca. Interesting choice because it's "Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca." Mazda has a Partnership with Ford. Laguna Seca is an awesome track but, I don't think they chose it because of it's provenance. I would still take it any day over a M3. I would rather have a car I can maintain for $400 a year in my driveway then $4k at the dealership. I just think the paint job and the Laguna Seca tie in are bullshit. __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact

08-17-2010, 07:13 PM	#8
stinky_180 Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pale Blue Dot Age: 36 Posts: 2,064 Trader Rating: (26) Feedback Score: 26 reviews	I digg it! __________________ SoCal RallyX Coverage and MTB Ride Reports WheelsDirty

08-17-2010, 06:02 PM	#4
lok Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 790 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	car and driver will still find the BMW to be better.

08-17-2010, 06:05 PM	#5
az_240 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phx Posts: 3,097 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	New mustangs look like a chick version IMO... cool that it's beating M3s though.

08-17-2010, 07:18 PM	#9
ZX88 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: ATX Age: 32 Posts: 2,946 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	the m3 really isnt all that impressive. Its a great car. but by sportscar standards now its really nothing special. Id still rather drive an m3 than the boss. __________________ SNOW PANTS OR NO PANTS.

08-17-2010, 07:46 PM	#10
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 86 Posts: 4,254 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	440hp is some 28hp over the stock 5.0's 412hp. It's not a lot, but welcome nonetheless. I guess it all depends on how much better this car handles & brakes over the 5.0 Of course it also depends on pricing. Article predicts from 35-40k A base 5.0 is close to 30k A 5.0 w/ brembos (need to get the premium trim in addition) is close to 35k. If it's 35k, that's reasonable. 40k is pushing it, unless that's for the Laguna Seca model with built-in cage & seats. (yes, I'm willing to pay that considering it's from the manufacturer w/ warrantee). Not enthusiastic about the color themes, but I like the orange.

08-17-2010, 10:59 PM	#14
'97 S14 SE Turbo Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Tempe, Az Posts: 165 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	supposedly, the new Boss mustangs also comes with adjustable shocks, as well as tunable exhaust, for different notes.

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DreamN Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SoCal - 818 Age: 36 Posts: 10,691 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: DreamN Feedback Score: 54 reviews	yup adjustable suspension. __________________ - Jimmy Wanted: TBD For Sale: TBD

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codyace Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Poconos, PA Age: 36 Posts: 8,030 Trader Rating: (58) Feedback Score: 58 reviews	I wish they made that without any of the red accents __________________ *Want Air Conditioning in your SR20 Swapped car? Check out www.sr20acbrackets.com for more information! Quest Alternator Conversions for SR20!* Check my Group Buy! Tired of lousy internal gates? Go external wastegate with one of my manifolds, Check out my group buy

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Matej Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 9,423 Trader Rating: (39) Feedback Score: 39 reviews	Ford did a really good job at tricking people into believing that the new Mustang looks good.

08-18-2010, 03:52 PM	#21
ZX88 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: ATX Age: 32 Posts: 2,946 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	tail lights are neat.. well the turn signals are. __________________ SNOW PANTS OR NO PANTS.

08-18-2010, 04:21 PM	#22
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 41 Posts: 20,898 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I can't hate on anything about this car except the graphics. Buy it and peel that shit off ASAP. Special edition Mustang's are less then a dime a dozen so who gives a shit about it's value right now. 30 years from now people are going to be disappointed when they realize their "special edition" Mustang isn't worth what they expected because there was 20 different special editions in one model year alone. __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

08-18-2010, 05:13 PM	#23
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,222 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	gotta remember majority of mustang fans love the whole "big american muscle" thing, so for ford to actually make this thing compete with a higher end european car, is pretty good. Cant wait to see some tastefully modded ones that arent all "KnightRider" ished out with big ol chrome wheels and tacky kits. __________________ Keep it Classy

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