acslater9

I voted yes simply because I'm tired of seeing the same shit out on the road. And no the design is fine, I love the 510 Datsun look.

ReallyBroke

Point proven, its ugly as fuck

tacobellman_2007

Lol I WAS kidding.

(I actually voted yes btw. No matter how bad the IDx looks, I believe this could be the restart of something for Nissan)

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Matej

But those things both look terrible.

I have not cared for any car Nissan has put out after the S15, which was not even sold in the US. Not because I am some kind of Silvia RWD turbo blah blah fanboy or a 90s purist, I just think all of their cars after that have been hideous or generic, or dumb niche cars for markets that Nissan itself tried to create. Sure the GTR may be awesome, but it is not my cup of tea. And buying the IDx or any ugly 'love it or hate it' car based purely on brand loyalty will only make that brand slowly deteriorate instead of forcing them to reevaluate their strategies.
That actually goes for all Japanese automakers. It seems that today South Korea is to the auto industry what Japan used to be twenty years ago.

babowc

Looks like shit.
Voted, never.

dorkidori_s13

im amused that everyone hates it based off looks. nevermind that this thing might just kick the shit out of the FRS and perform like a baus... all im hearing is "it looks like shit KILL IT! KILL IT WITH FIRE!"

i really dig it, especially the NISMO version. there is a lot of heritage in this car INCLUDING THE CSP311 SILVIA! the car was built with influence taken directly from the silvia, the laurel, the skyline and the bluebird (aka the 510)

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BossHogg

smash the quarter panel, slam it, negative 20 camber, leave some panel's unpainted, and throw in a coupon for Megan coilovers when they come out. Then it will get more "yes" votes from zilvia.

besides wasn't it already confirmed that they are making it?

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s14kkouki

voted no. shit is ugly.

simmode1

Lol! It would fit right in here at Zilvia then!

Yep. They've confirmed it's going into production after overwhelming critical praise when it debuted at TAS.

But overwhelming hate from the US debuted might make them change their mind. They're still just in the valuation and market strategy planning phase.

Seriously, It's so confusing to me seeing the cars that get all the compliments in the Wheel Fitment or Aero threads with all these panels that don't fit OEM smooth, rivet holes, roof spoilers and other pointless add-ons, mismatched front ends, multicolored paint jobs and other shit...and a manufacturer offers the same thing NEW only to be shit upon.

Yeah, I like the Stinger concept better at the moment. But until its confirmed for production, I'd rather not see the IDX dead on arrival and we're back to just choosing between FRS/BRZ or Genesis Coupe again for the under $30k club.

ReallyBroke

It looks like the retarded yuppy child of a 510.

I love 510's. I see how this is SUPPOSED to look like a 510, but it doesn't. 510's look cool, this looks like crap.

maybe they will clean it up for production, then I will eat my words, but right now my opinion is that it looks like total shit, and I doubt anybody will buy it.

OutlawLui

wow.....that's no frs or ft-1 lmao

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mechanicalmoron

It looks almost exactly like some of the earlier ones.

But just so goddamn ugly. There are some things that just don't work in newer styles with newer materials. It's hideous.

Nevertheless, I lied that I'd buy it, because I want them to make SOME sort of cheaper sports car.

FaLKoN240

Actually, most, if not all FRS/BRZ cars are running conversion spacers or this.

Megan Racing

I know first hand the Fatlace FRS has conversion spacers to run all the VOLK and WORK wheels you've seen on it.

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dorkidori_s13

SECONDED!!!

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unwtdhero

States personal opinion on said concept, gets told why he should like it....
Really? If we all lie and act content where will we be? It will be 5 yrs later still complaining about nissans dedication to commuter cars. Dorkidori buy one, and then start the bandwagon

simmode1

That's news to me. It was one of my gripes about the FRS originally. I thought the aftermarket wheel companies had just gone ape-shit for 5x100 or something....

Well, even if the IDX came 4x114.3 (which I doubt it will), I'd still take that over 5x100 any day. Got my fingers crossed for 5x114.3 stock on 17's though!

kingkilburn

That car IS a Silvia, just not the Silvia any of you are familiar with. Nissan did make cars before 1989.

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ixfxi

I dont need to look up shit. Look up practically any BMW and you'll see that they've been using straight 6 motors _for_ever_. They're also known for building some of the best motors and most balanced cars. Better be careful, Aaron or Dave might chime in and say how much they like(d) their BMW over their NISSAN.

Personally, I think there are higher manufacturing costs with the straight 6, in addition to packaging issues, plus efficiency (i think). But all of that I dont care about. Again, I am not a new NISSAN customer, I am a supporter of old NISSAN. I like the Z32, Z33, Z34... but I would never own one. I like the S30 Z. I like the S13. These cars appeal to me. Not some fugly piece of junk car with random letters for a name.

See attached photo. I think I actually snapped that photo.. many many years ago.


I totally agree. Even the GTR, I have absolutely no interest in owning a technologically-laden car like that. I'de rather buy a Z06 Corvette which is easy for normal humans to service (me included, and I'm an idiot). Plus, it not a piece of shit automatic.

"but its a dual clu..."

^ shut the fuck up

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Cheesy Doriftos

performance is cool and all but people also care about how the car looks as well. the nissan gt-r became a performance benchmark when it dropped, but people still didn't like how it looked (i did) and bought better looking cars that the gt-r outperformed.

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kingkilburn

Can we stop saying it looks like a 510 when it very obviously looks like the original Silvia?




Jesus fucking christ people, they gave us WHAT WE ASKED FOR. A new Silvia.

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ReallyBroke

hahaha, wow! your fucking right!

something must have gotten lost in translation.

...those crazy japanese assholes

simmode1

I see DNA from the CSP311 Silvia, the Hakosuka Skyline and the 510 when I look at the IDX. Similar to how Toyota drew upon the 2000GT, AE86 and Celica Supras for the FRS.

Some Silvia DNA? Yes. S-Chassis DNA? No. Do I care? Hell nah.

If the Stinger is stillborn, I'm getting the IDX as long as Nissan doesn't screw it up en route to production.
Agreed. I support the IDX, but c'mon. BMW is prestigous for a reason. Most of those cars are phenomenal performers. If the new 228i was under $30k, I wouldn't care much about the IDX or the Stinger. Handling, looks, power & prestige... Fucking BMW, bro. Grown man cars right there.

Even when it comes time to buy either the IDX or Stinger, they're still gonna have to compete against pre-owned 3 series for my money.

On another note: You know another car I though was ugly as all fuck when I first saw it? Pignose S13 coupe. Dear god. But look at all the potential in that little shitbox. Now, I try to look past the obvious.

kingkilburn

Even if they don't give us those Nismo fenders you know we'll see a Rocket Bunny kit for it, so win either way. lol

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waxball88

I can respect the influence from the older generation of Nissan. But i don't think a specifically enthusiast/purist oriented "old-styled" sports coupe is going to do well, i just don't foresee the market being THAT big. I'd bargain to say people buying a new car want cool, futuristic looking cars when they buy a "sports" car. People want cool factory styling, features, not boxy and simple. Its kind of confusing Nissan would do this. If you're not looking to make a sports car and are worried about taking sales from the Z series, what exactly does this car aim to do? Another house wife grocery getter thats slightly sporty? Although they do not peak my interest at least the 350/370 look "up to date." I just don't forsee this appealing to the masses, maybe they'll come out looking better in production. Maybe nissan will offer lots of cool factory upgrades and options, aero, etc. Maybe, Maybe, Maybe.

simmode1

^^^I dunno, man. Camaro looks just as boxy & retro to me. Seems to be doing alright.

I really feel like there'd be less complaining if these concepts were just one solid color like most ppl would order from the dealer.

kingkilburn

Marketing entry level sports coupes to young women is and has been the standard for decades. How do you think they get all those V6 Mustangs and Camaros out there? lol

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simmode1

^^^Smart. Enthusiasts will buy a few Nismos. But secrataries will buy the Freeflow in droves and the next generation of drifters will buy them 2nd hand to swap cheap Coyote 5.0's into them.

Then they'll circlejerk on whatever the Zilvia replacement is about who's aero is legit vs who's is knockoff and why'd Matt Powers Jr ditched his OG turbo motor and raised his ride height.

And the circle continues.

kingkilburn

Having basic freeflows out there in droves with easily obtainable nismo pieces(bodywork, gauge setups, wheels, engine/suspension upgrades, etc) sounds like a recipe for a strong enthusiast fanbase.

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Taniguchi_Is_#1

fixed that for you.


on topic, i hope they build this car. i think it's neat. dunno if i can make a business case for it, though. a vast majority of "enthusiasts" don't buy new cars. they complain about how these types of cars don't exist, and then when a company does release one, they'll complain about how it's possible to spend the same amount of money on a 15 year old car and make it more capable. so. yeah.

Turb0wned

Wait, Nissan is making the new Dodge Charger?