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axiomatik · 08-21-2005, 08:10 PM

I'm going to bring up the center console trim as well. I know you can get CF applique kits, but all applique kits look like crap. A properly molded *replacement* for the trim would be really nice.

BRB240 · 08-21-2005, 08:21 PM

I would really like to see a cf sunroof plug as well. Getting rid of even just a few pounds off of a structural point high on the chassis can create a surprisingly positive change in the cars roll motion (less body roll) when cornering. I would see no problem spending around $300 to get one. All it has to do is replace the glass and not leak, it doesn't need to pop-up nor do anything fancy.

Siizzzoooo · 08-21-2005, 08:30 PM

Ganador style mirrors!

those bastards are so hard to find

anthony240 · 08-21-2005, 08:40 PM

+1 for sunroof block off piece. all it will be is a 34 1/8" x 14 3/8" piece of cf, with some curve, and with 90 degree overhang so it can rivet on the overhang of the hole, not on top of the roof.

BSPerformance · 08-21-2005, 08:51 PM

+2 for sunroof pice! I forgot all about wanting that

maverick27 · 08-21-2005, 08:58 PM

CF Dash! It'll b baller status. Although, im sure someone already makes one. COPY it!

justinhustle · 08-21-2005, 09:03 PM

i have cf exterior b pillars

the cf garage defend style piece is made by renova

id offer ideas, but i dont have any sorry lol

chmercer · 08-21-2005, 10:04 PM

oh hey i thought of somthing else.

could you please make some big canards? preferably voltex copy? i cant find any big enough to add any real downforce, and the real voltex ones are far too expensive.

also if you could make a cheap front undertray that would be cool, but they already make a few of thoes.

finally, if there was some way to make a rear diffuser that would be cool, but it would probably cost a ton, but just thought id throw out out there.

canard pics (pleae make these!!

)

evrae205b · 08-21-2005, 10:11 PM

shifter and radio trim also the trim around the ac vents and climate controls.

sbc · 08-21-2005, 10:27 PM

Carbon fiber roof. Seriously.

kandyflip445 · 08-21-2005, 10:37 PM

KA valve cover? I'd buy one for 300-350.

The cup holder for the ashtray I would buy right now. My ashtray lid broke.

lv-180sx · 08-22-2005, 03:16 AM

i would like to see a CF second DIN cover for people who have aftermarket CD decks and that "empty space" on the bottom. would be convenient if it had 1 gauge whole and a square cutout for a turbo timer, or SAFC harness to go through....

kinda like this but with 1 gauge whole..

willing to pay like $100

MadScientist · 08-22-2005, 09:35 AM

lv-180sx - That is just a Flat Panel mounted in place. Its best to offer that way so customer can cut-out whatever they want.

kandyflip445 - Carbon Fiber Valve Covers are awsome and rare as hell. They are hard to make and take major skill. The Part has to be vacuum molded then aluminum added as a secontary bond for mounting. The problem with most is that the epoxy doesn't fully bond to the aluminum so when your installing the shims will break free... very tricky part.

sbc - without doing a full carbon body you have the same problem as above... Cost would be crazy not only for the part, but to install!

evrae205b - Shifter and Radio Trim are possable... The AC is not. The vents break so easy and to remove and install on a full carbon piece that has no flex would make near impossable. In the end would cost more than people would be willing to spend. The AC Gauge pod would be more reasonable.

chmercer - looks simple enough as long as its left as a universal unit so customer can trim to fit. I only know of one company in Japan that make a true Rear Diffuser for the S13 and S15 (similar to the Top Secret).

gmckey, anthony240, BSPerformance - I'll look into it further to see how plausable it is.

Siizzzoooo - all you had to do is ask... I can get anything out of Japan not just what is listed on the website.

Jeff240sx - I think Border has an aluminum one that relocates and Billion just release one also... relocating is your best option and a Heat Shield which willbe in the mix soon hopefully.

You guys should know by now that I don't do Knock-offs... its not an option.

Peace
Drew

tastyratz · 08-22-2005, 09:44 AM

my vote goes towards the sunroof too. I dont have one but that would def. generate sales. I would like to see someone produce some carbon fiber overlayed mandrel bent intercooler piping personally. This would be nice looking AND functional as well as a heat barrier. That would be a universal application and not just 240s. Im going to have to vote for underbody diffusers as well in carbon fiber. Dash would def. be cool but I dont think I could spend that kind of money on one. Cupholder would DEFINITELY sell and be a major plus for the s13 made to fit in the spot of the ash tray. That wouldnt have to be cf as it would also be wrecked easily... Maybe make that out of fiberglass instead. I can see the glovebox selling and being a good idea... What about reinforcement bars? I.E. Good strong carbon fiber stbs and c pillar braces? Door sill guards are a good idea and depending on price are a possible thing I would purchase. Maybe make some DIY cheap cf parts for people who want to use it to make something like CF tubes, etc. Maybe a center garnish cover for the s13 fastbacks stock tails (kinda like the rps13 one for kouki tails) if you made the b pillar replacements it would be something to spark my interest as well. just tossing out thoughts...

cr00k_lyn · 08-22-2005, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sbc

Carbon fiber roof. Seriously.

agreed..................

for a RPS13, would be nice if my black roof was cf'ed out.

Zen S14 · 08-22-2005, 10:06 AM

Hey you guys carried a full S14 interior door panel replacement in carbon before. Its no longer listed. I think it was 900 for the pair. I would be interested in that and a full carbon dash.

Another part I am interested in is a carbon panel shelf for rear seat delete. I don't like the big hole to the trunk and also the funny shaped area under the rear seats showing when I remove the seats. A good carbon shelf with some hard foam to reshape the rear into a shelf for putting lightweight stuff would be cool.

A full carbon headliner would be interesing as well.

JVD · 08-22-2005, 10:32 AM

Definitely most interested in a dash mount gauge pod.

JVD.

drift freaq · 08-22-2005, 10:41 AM

yo, madscientist, are you ignoring my suggestion, or just hating cause you think I don't like JDM stuff?
RB25 and RB26 coil pack covers!!!

MadScientist · 08-22-2005, 10:45 AM

Zen S14 - FRP Limited went out of Biz. Interior Door Panels are being highly considered. Headliner was mentioned bit think shipping would kill the cost... about the same as a hood. Rear Seat aera was mentioned also... someone made this in Japan but I dont have any info on the comapny... It was in one of the Option Mags.

tastyratz - If you want your IC piping done in Carbon let me know... It will needed to be sent to Mike to be covered. Support Bars like C-pillar and a Harness Bar would great... probably be stronger as an Aluminum/ Carbon covered bar. That is possable.

Peace
Drew

chuy · 08-22-2005, 12:11 PM

Ill be in for the sunroof and a new ring peice for the radio it might just be better for a flat peice so that the customers can just cut it up for what we need.

MadScientist · 08-22-2005, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drift freaq

yo, madscientist, are you ignoring my suggestion, or just hating cause you think I don't like JDM stuff?
RB25 and RB26 coil pack covers!!!

hahaha... No, Just need to get ahold of an RB for testing parts... and BTW if you have an RB you have a huge chunk of JDM.

Mike has a real deal JDM S14 he is using for parts now.
S14 SR plug cover in the works now...

Peace
Drew

trsilvias13 · 08-22-2005, 01:12 PM

+1 for the steering column gauge pod holder.

my suggestion would be a rear lip for the usdm s14 bumper.. no one makes one. only valences. i want a full lip across. just one piece to match my kouki s14 side skirts. make cf roof spoiler too. copy whoever makes it and make it cheaper.

dasalnt · 08-22-2005, 01:43 PM

carbon fiber steering column gauge holder. I bought the one off ebay and it's absolutely horrible, there's no way to mount it.

scir16v · 08-23-2005, 12:54 AM

how about a usdm s14 kouki front lip. Just like the stock one, but carbon. An s13 zenki style front lip to fit the chuki.

trevor · 08-23-2005, 01:57 AM

complete cf dash for s13 and how about a s13 coup trunk

rrobe99999 · 08-23-2005, 08:28 AM

For my S14, I would pay 700 for a custom CF dash. It should have 3 gauge holders over the AC vents built in (52mm that can be bored to 60mm). Buyer would have to cut hole for airbag or pay extra for this service. Or else a 3 gauge holder that could be mounted to a stock dash over the AC vents.

The radio trim should not have any cutouts, but could come pre-socred or marked to help locate the stock DIN cutouts.

The steering column gauge holder would be great, but a custom part would be even better. I have a Momo wheel, and don't like the way the steering column is now bigger than the boss. I would love a custom, upper and lower "slim" column cover kit with integrated gauge holder(s).

A 2 pod cluster bezel replacement would be good.

I want to get rid of my A pillar pods but have not yet found an OEM looking option for my LHD S14. BTW a European company sells the CF A pillars with pods for LHD cars.

*HaLo* · 08-23-2005, 08:35 AM

A real carbon fiber hood and popup covers! not a FG hood with a layer of CF...

MadScientist · 08-23-2005, 09:27 AM

Steering Colomn Gauge - I smore than likey going to be a unit to hold a Turbo Timer or a small Half Din unit... this way the Cluster view is not obstructed... this would also be a full upper and lower unit to ensure fitment.

S14 (USDM) Front Lip - I believe this may be in the works already as well. Hopefully try to design it to work with both Kouki and Zenki.

Hoods and Trunk - This is alreay being designed... I can't talk about it but its not going to be like anything you have seen yet.

Full Carbon Dash - I think its one of things peple drool over when they see but only a very few people would actually pay out for one... highly considering this... we'll see.

A-Pillar - Personally I dunno to do it with or witout the gauge pods because it caters to the person who wants a set number of gauges or not. I would prefer to keep this as stock.

Peace
Drew

chuy · 08-23-2005, 11:27 AM

Do the damn sunroof plug so that it just replaces the glass!

kandyflip445 · 08-23-2005, 01:22 PM

Most people wouldn't consider it because they don't have the money. But most people in s13's have cracked dashes. lol There could be a market for them.

08-21-2005, 08:30 PM	#33
Siizzzoooo Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Murfreesboro,TN Posts: 1,355 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ganador style mirrors! those bastards are so hard to find __________________ 2004 Honda S2000 NFR \| 2007 Acura TL CBP \| Project *Coming Soon*

08-21-2005, 08:40 PM	#34
anthony240 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Norcal Age: 39 Posts: 1,234 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	+1 for sunroof block off piece. all it will be is a 34 1/8" x 14 3/8" piece of cf, with some curve, and with 90 degree overhang so it can rivet on the overhang of the hole, not on top of the roof. __________________ 18+ to come//21+ to swallow

08-21-2005, 08:51 PM	#35
BSPerformance Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Philly Age: 32 Posts: 863 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	+2 for sunroof pice! I forgot all about wanting that __________________ a silvia

08-21-2005, 08:58 PM	#36
maverick27 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: so.cal. Age: 35 Posts: 884 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	CF Dash! It'll b baller status. Although, im sure someone already makes one. COPY it! __________________ Just Drive!

08-21-2005, 10:11 PM	#39
evrae205b Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: birmingham AL Age: 40 Posts: 165 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	shifter and radio trim also the trim around the ac vents and climate controls. __________________ www.alabamagz.com http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2093248

08-21-2005, 08:10 PM	#31
axiomatik Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: ATL Posts: 4,697 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm going to bring up the center console trim as well. I know you can get CF applique kits, but all applique kits look like crap. A properly molded replacement for the trim would be really nice.

08-21-2005, 08:21 PM	#32
BRB240 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sector 775 Age: 36 Posts: 126 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I would really like to see a cf sunroof plug as well. Getting rid of even just a few pounds off of a structural point high on the chassis can create a surprisingly positive change in the cars roll motion (less body roll) when cornering. I would see no problem spending around $300 to get one. All it has to do is replace the glass and not leak, it doesn't need to pop-up nor do anything fancy.

08-21-2005, 09:03 PM	#37
justinhustle Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ohio Age: 41 Posts: 1,693 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: justinhustle Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i have cf exterior b pillars the cf garage defend style piece is made by renova id offer ideas, but i dont have any sorry lol

08-21-2005, 10:04 PM	#38
chmercer BANNED Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: texas! Age: 35 Posts: 3,288 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	oh hey i thought of somthing else. could you please make some big canards? preferably voltex copy? i cant find any big enough to add any real downforce, and the real voltex ones are far too expensive. also if you could make a cheap front undertray that would be cool, but they already make a few of thoes. finally, if there was some way to make a rear diffuser that would be cool, but it would probably cost a ton, but just thought id throw out out there. canard pics (pleae make these!! )

08-21-2005, 10:27 PM	#40
sbc Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 75 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Carbon fiber roof. Seriously.

08-21-2005, 10:37 PM	#41
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 36 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	KA valve cover? I'd buy one for 300-350. The cup holder for the ashtray I would buy right now. My ashtray lid broke. __________________ My 240 vBgarage

08-22-2005, 03:16 AM	#42
lv-180sx Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: las vegas Posts: 547 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	i would like to see a CF second DIN cover for people who have aftermarket CD decks and that "empty space" on the bottom. would be convenient if it had 1 gauge whole and a square cutout for a turbo timer, or SAFC harness to go through.... kinda like this but with 1 gauge whole.. willing to pay like $100

08-22-2005, 09:35 AM	#43
MadScientist Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NOLA Age: 44 Posts: 1,964 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	lv-180sx - That is just a Flat Panel mounted in place. Its best to offer that way so customer can cut-out whatever they want. kandyflip445 - Carbon Fiber Valve Covers are awsome and rare as hell. They are hard to make and take major skill. The Part has to be vacuum molded then aluminum added as a secontary bond for mounting. The problem with most is that the epoxy doesn't fully bond to the aluminum so when your installing the shims will break free... very tricky part. sbc - without doing a full carbon body you have the same problem as above... Cost would be crazy not only for the part, but to install! evrae205b - Shifter and Radio Trim are possable... The AC is not. The vents break so easy and to remove and install on a full carbon piece that has no flex would make near impossable. In the end would cost more than people would be willing to spend. The AC Gauge pod would be more reasonable. chmercer - looks simple enough as long as its left as a universal unit so customer can trim to fit. I only know of one company in Japan that make a true Rear Diffuser for the S13 and S15 (similar to the Top Secret). gmckey, anthony240, BSPerformance - I'll look into it further to see how plausable it is. Siizzzoooo - all you had to do is ask... I can get anything out of Japan not just what is listed on the website. Jeff240sx - I think Border has an aluminum one that relocates and Billion just release one also... relocating is your best option and a Heat Shield which willbe in the mix soon hopefully. You guys should know by now that I don't do Knock-offs... its not an option. Peace Drew __________________ URAS

08-22-2005, 09:44 AM	#44
tastyratz Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: nh Posts: 995 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	my vote goes towards the sunroof too. I dont have one but that would def. generate sales. I would like to see someone produce some carbon fiber overlayed mandrel bent intercooler piping personally. This would be nice looking AND functional as well as a heat barrier. That would be a universal application and not just 240s. Im going to have to vote for underbody diffusers as well in carbon fiber. Dash would def. be cool but I dont think I could spend that kind of money on one. Cupholder would DEFINITELY sell and be a major plus for the s13 made to fit in the spot of the ash tray. That wouldnt have to be cf as it would also be wrecked easily... Maybe make that out of fiberglass instead. I can see the glovebox selling and being a good idea... What about reinforcement bars? I.E. Good strong carbon fiber stbs and c pillar braces? Door sill guards are a good idea and depending on price are a possible thing I would purchase. Maybe make some DIY cheap cf parts for people who want to use it to make something like CF tubes, etc. Maybe a center garnish cover for the s13 fastbacks stock tails (kinda like the rps13 one for kouki tails) if you made the b pillar replacements it would be something to spark my interest as well. just tossing out thoughts... __________________

08-22-2005, 10:06 AM	#46
Zen S14 Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Philadelphia USA Age: 44 Posts: 240 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Hey you guys carried a full S14 interior door panel replacement in carbon before. Its no longer listed. I think it was 900 for the pair. I would be interested in that and a full carbon dash. Another part I am interested in is a carbon panel shelf for rear seat delete. I don't like the big hole to the trunk and also the funny shaped area under the rear seats showing when I remove the seats. A good carbon shelf with some hard foam to reshape the rear into a shelf for putting lightweight stuff would be cool. A full carbon headliner would be interesing as well.

08-22-2005, 10:32 AM	#47
JVD Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Alberta, Canada Age: 32 Posts: 1,820 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Definitely most interested in a dash mount gauge pod. JVD.

08-22-2005, 10:41 AM	#48
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,558 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	yo, madscientist, are you ignoring my suggestion, or just hating cause you think I don't like JDM stuff? RB25 and RB26 coil pack covers!!! __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

08-22-2005, 10:45 AM	#49
MadScientist Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NOLA Age: 44 Posts: 1,964 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Zen S14 - FRP Limited went out of Biz. Interior Door Panels are being highly considered. Headliner was mentioned bit think shipping would kill the cost... about the same as a hood. Rear Seat aera was mentioned also... someone made this in Japan but I dont have any info on the comapny... It was in one of the Option Mags. tastyratz - If you want your IC piping done in Carbon let me know... It will needed to be sent to Mike to be covered. Support Bars like C-pillar and a Harness Bar would great... probably be stronger as an Aluminum/ Carbon covered bar. That is possable. Peace Drew __________________ URAS

08-22-2005, 12:11 PM	#50
chuy Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Colorado some where Age: 44 Posts: 623 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Ill be in for the sunroof and a new ring peice for the radio it might just be better for a flat peice so that the customers can just cut it up for what we need. __________________ Slide Happy

08-22-2005, 01:12 PM	#52
trsilvias13 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,984 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	+1 for the steering column gauge pod holder. my suggestion would be a rear lip for the usdm s14 bumper.. no one makes one. only valences. i want a full lip across. just one piece to match my kouki s14 side skirts. make cf roof spoiler too. copy whoever makes it and make it cheaper.

08-22-2005, 01:43 PM	#53
dasalnt Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: socal Posts: 122 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	carbon fiber steering column gauge holder. I bought the one off ebay and it's absolutely horrible, there's no way to mount it.

08-23-2005, 12:54 AM	#54
scir16v Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: St. Louis Posts: 171 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	how about a usdm s14 kouki front lip. Just like the stock one, but carbon. An s13 zenki style front lip to fit the chuki. __________________ Scott Driving Angle Motorsports

08-23-2005, 01:57 AM	#55
trevor Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: huntington beach ca. Posts: 28 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	complete cf dash for s13 and how about a s13 coup trunk

08-23-2005, 08:28 AM	#56
rrobe99999 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Destin, Fl Posts: 260 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	For my S14, I would pay 700 for a custom CF dash. It should have 3 gauge holders over the AC vents built in (52mm that can be bored to 60mm). Buyer would have to cut hole for airbag or pay extra for this service. Or else a 3 gauge holder that could be mounted to a stock dash over the AC vents. The radio trim should not have any cutouts, but could come pre-socred or marked to help locate the stock DIN cutouts. The steering column gauge holder would be great, but a custom part would be even better. I have a Momo wheel, and don't like the way the steering column is now bigger than the boss. I would love a custom, upper and lower "slim" column cover kit with integrated gauge holder(s). A 2 pod cluster bezel replacement would be good. I want to get rid of my A pillar pods but have not yet found an OEM looking option for my LHD S14. BTW a European company sells the CF A pillars with pods for LHD cars.

08-23-2005, 08:35 AM	#57
HaLo from Canada, eh! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec Age: 42 Posts: 5,199 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: HaLo Feedback Score: 0 reviews	A real carbon fiber hood and popup covers! not a FG hood with a layer of CF... __________________ -> HaLo Race Car: '98 E36 BMW M3 Daily Driver: '08 Fiji Blue Honda Civic Si SOLD: 01 GPW Honda S2000 PARTED: 93 Pearl White 240SX LE Fastback w/SR20DET SOLD: 93 Super White 240SX SE Convertible w/Silvia Front

08-23-2005, 09:27 AM	#58
MadScientist Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NOLA Age: 44 Posts: 1,964 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Steering Colomn Gauge - I smore than likey going to be a unit to hold a Turbo Timer or a small Half Din unit... this way the Cluster view is not obstructed... this would also be a full upper and lower unit to ensure fitment. S14 (USDM) Front Lip - I believe this may be in the works already as well. Hopefully try to design it to work with both Kouki and Zenki. Hoods and Trunk - This is alreay being designed... I can't talk about it but its not going to be like anything you have seen yet. Full Carbon Dash - I think its one of things peple drool over when they see but only a very few people would actually pay out for one... highly considering this... we'll see. A-Pillar - Personally I dunno to do it with or witout the gauge pods because it caters to the person who wants a set number of gauges or not. I would prefer to keep this as stock. Peace Drew __________________ URAS

08-23-2005, 11:27 AM	#59
chuy Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Colorado some where Age: 44 Posts: 623 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Do the damn sunroof plug so that it just replaces the glass! __________________ Slide Happy

08-23-2005, 01:22 PM	#60
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 36 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Most people wouldn't consider it because they don't have the money. But most people in s13's have cracked dashes. lol There could be a market for them. __________________ My 240 vBgarage

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