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Old 08-29-2008, 01:18 PM   #1
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Thumbs up so how about this election

no matter what, there will either be a woman or a black man in the white house next year. pretty cool!

again, can we please stay upbeat, nobody likes political bashing, it's lame, and serves no purpose whatsoever.
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Either a black man or woman? Last time I checked, it was
Obama vs McCain. Hilary isn't even in the running anymore.
They're also in the same party.

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Either a black man or woman? Last time I checked, it was
Obama vs McCain. Hilary isn't even in the running anymore.
They're also in the same party.

mccain's running mate is Alaskan governor Sarah Palin. a woman.
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Ah so McCain selected a women running mate, hmmmm interesting move. The question is will this gambit work?
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yea its McCain vs Obama. It will be a pretty crazy election. Altho I hope these threats against Obama stops. So we must choose the lesser of two evils
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Oh shit. I heard that on the radio this morning.
Must have slipped my mind.



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We ain't ready, to see a black President, uhh"
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Oh shit. I heard that on the radio this morning.
Must have slipped my mind.



Tupac is rolling in his grave.
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We ain't ready, to see a black President, uhh"
Asleep at the wheel Simoun?
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I am a Republican who doesnt really like Mccain or Obama, but I think I like Sarah Palin. I thought her speech was really good and plus for a 44 year old woman she looks pretty hot .




I have to look into her more but from what I've heard so far I like what she stands for.
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I am a Republican who doesnt really like Mccain or Obama, but I think I like Sarah Palin. I thought her speech was really good and plus for a 44 year old woman she looks pretty hot . I have to look into her more but from what I've heard so far I like what she stands for.
You're from Chicago, you guys know more reality about Obama than the average American voter. Congrats to you. I don't like either of them myself. This is getting interesting though.
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You're from Chicago, you guys know more reality about Obama than the average American voter. Congrats to you. I don't like either of them myself. This is getting interesting though.
It's amazing how any possible scandal that would have faced Obama is just swept under the rug by the national media. The thing that comes to mind for me is when Obama bought his new house and Tony Rezko, a friend of Obama's who is on trial for political corruption and is going to jail (is already in prison?) essentially paid for a large chunk of it. I just feel that deep down Obama is "another rich white politician." Not that I feel any different about McCain. But I digress, this thread is about how the political and cultural landscape is changing for the better.
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It's amazing how any possible scandal that would have faced Obama is just swept under the rug by the national media. The thing that comes to mind for me is when Obama bought his new house and Tony Rezko, a friend of Obama's who is on trial for political corruption and is going to jail (is already in prison?) essentially paid for a large chunk of it. I just feel that deep down Obama is "another rich white politician." Not that I feel any different about McCain. But I digress, this thread is about how the political and cultural landscape is changing for the better.
The thing you have to understand is that Obama is not just "another rich white guy." He grew up in a single family very middle class family and fought his way through life. Even now, he's CLEARLY the more qualified candidate, and he's fighting through this mostly because of his race. Sure he has a very nice house but compared to McCains multi-million dollar houses (8 of them) his seems like a shack. McCain's condo in Cali is 6 mil alone.
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I am a Republican who doesnt really like Mccain or Obama, but I think I like Sarah Palin. I thought her speech was really good and plus for a 44 year old woman she looks pretty hot .




I have to look into her more but from what I've heard so far I like what she stands for.
She kind of reminds me of the president in BSG...except hot In all seriousness it was genius on McCain's part to choose a woman. It is going to split even more votes away from Obama. The ignorant women's rights masses will vote for McCain just because the VP will be a woman. I'm not saying women are ignorant or that there is anything wrong with them having rights, just saying McCain will get a lot of their votes despite party.
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I think I like Sarah Palin.
I agree. People keep saying "oh what if mccain dies and she takes office?" Ummmm, she'll kick butt. She doesn't put up with government waste and isn't afraid to challenge the "old boys" clogging up this country.

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I agree. People keep saying "oh what if mccain dies and she takes office?" Ummmm, she'll kick butt. She doesn't put up with government waste and isn't afraid to challenge the "old boys" clogging up this country.

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Irony isnt it, Will mccain be in her way then being the oldest boy there?

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IMHO no, but I'm not going to e-argue to change anyone's mind
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Well, when she meant "good ol' boys" she referred to Alaska's previous corrupt regime, half of which might spend some time in jail. She was also referring to Ted Steven's "bridge to nowhere" which she is ON THE RECORD in 2006 to fully support. Now that Ted Stevens is definitely going to be spending time in jail, and on her biggest public speech mind you, she flat out lies and states that she "stared congress (Ted Stevens) in the face and said thanks but no thanks." She is a FLAT OUT LIAR.....but I'd still face pump the shit out of her
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I agree. People keep saying "oh what if mccain dies and she takes office?" Ummmm, she'll kick butt. She doesn't put up with government waste and isn't afraid to challenge the "old boys" clogging up this country.

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umm.. Have you followed her track record in Alaska?


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^^^Mccain chose a woman Sarah Palin to be his running mate/vice pres.



obama is probably like, "shit... i should have had hilary for my vp."
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obama is probably like, "shit... i should have had hilary for my vp."
That's what I'm saying i thought homeboy was gonna have hilley as his vp oh well no matter what were going to make history
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you know i think i refrain from my statement though.... i mean if you think about it it actually is a smart move on both their parts:

before this year, people would have said a black guy and a woman together would probably have the lowest statistical shot of winning the presidency. Obama is already out a fistful of bigots for being black, if he had a woman VP he'd alienate the rest of them. I think biden was a really lousy choice for a VP but he's a really WASPy (white anglo saxon protestant) guy and i think that's part of the reason he was chosen. Mccain on the other hand already is a token old white guy, so he stood to gain the most by picking up a woman or a minority


no disrespect here but it really was a wise scheme on both Obama and Mccains' part.









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Smart move... If he would have picked a white male to run with than he would have lost for sure. Picking a young woman (to offset his old white male ass) gives him some hope of the female voters. Too bad he still doesnt know how to work a computer
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mmm... sarah palin.

id vote for mccain and become her intern


I dont care who wins though. Either way I'm still going to have to pay taxes. I'm still going to have to pay my bills. It's whatever.
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I thought the thread title was "so how bout this erection?"
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i like obama, i'll vote for him

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Now that I think about it, Mccain should have picked an asian female to run with. That would have been pretty funny. So its either gonna be the oldest president ever and a woman or a semi black guy.
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Eh, to tell the truth I don't really like any of these candidates. Out of the past three elections, the only candidate who seemed kind of appealing to me was Gore. I'm sure I'll catch some hate for that.
In my opinion choosing Palin was a smart move on McCain's part, many people will like her because of her looks, as I can tell from this thread already, and McCain will appeal more to people who have been calling him too old fashioned, and Obama can't call out McCain on being stuck in the old ways as much as he has been able to until now.
Although, it does also make McCain a hypocrit, who's been putting Obama down until now on the basis that he's too young to have any experience, and now he has chosen a VP three years younger than Obama, and a whole generation younger than himself, younger than his children even.
I personally don't like Palin, mainly because she's known for her strong anti-abortion stance, to me she just seems like a younger McCain/Bush, who happens to be a female.
Also, not putting down Alaska, I think that place is amazing, but whenever I've been there it didn't even feel like being in the U.S., it felt like a completely different country with its own problems and standards, I'm not sure how the governor of scarcely-populated Alaska would do as a VP of the entire country, but who knows, I guess the VP doesn't really do all that much anyway.
Personally, I'd still rather spend the next 4 years with Obama/Biden and see if Obama can put his money where his mouth is, as nothing about McCain/Palin's politics appeals to me.
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all i can say is this debate sucks ass. why would i ever vote for someone (obama) who wont even put his right hand over his heart durring the pledge of allegiance. wtf is that! if your gunna represent our country, respect it. idk, that realllllyyyy made me mad! ohh and how supposably he's gunna try to make our country muslem? is that true or am i the only person who caught that! america is freedom of religion right? so whats the problem!!! lol
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