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Old 02-02-2014, 01:49 PM   #121
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I think the turbo has you guys the most happy. Cause its easier to make more power, which i understand. But if this didn't have a turbo i don't think you guys would like it at all
Actually for me this is where you are wrong. I would not care how they get 230-240hp .It could be NA and I would still like the car.
You perhaps are hung up on Turbo or very pretty looking things? Sorry man but you did open yourself up to that comment with the whole FRS?KIA Stinger stance. LOL Having fun with you here.
Though seriously I really don't care how they make the HP as long as its there. THe FRS is underpowered and feels that way.
Maybe I am spoiled because of the cars I have owned and drive. I want at least 230-250 HP in a 2800lb car at this point. My M3 is such a point and go machine its crazy fun.
Having a Turbo would be a cool way to get extra HP on the fly though but for me its not a prerequisite . This car just has fuck you attitude and I like that.
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Do I pay off the Veloster, sell the S13, and then buy an IDX? Or do I trade in the Veloster for an IDX and keep the S13? Decisions decisions...
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Having owned and driven a 300whp RB25 powered S13 I can say that 300whp is plenty of power for a 2750LB car. It was downright a blast to drive and Sportbike quick. All these guys clamoring for more HP don't realize you take away reliability and drivability when doing so.
i built my last 240 to over 300whp. most of the kids building 240s now with pie in the sky ideas of 400-500hp SR20s have no idea how outright dangerous the car gets when you start hitting the 250-300whp range. especially in our cars (like you said) that are just barely pushing the 2800lbs mark.

good lord it was a blast to drive though nothing like getting pushed into your seat and being held there for 4500rpms worth of awesome!
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Old 02-02-2014, 02:05 PM   #124
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Do I pay off the Veloster, sell the S13, and then buy an IDX? Or do I trade in the Veloster for an IDX and keep the S13? Decisions decisions...
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I don't give a shit if it's turbo or NA as long as its 200hp+ and stick.
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I don't give a shit if it's turbo or NA as long as its 200hp+ and stick.
Nah, if it's N/A, I'm gonna hate/flame it like I do the FRS for not living up to my expections. I'll just get something else like the Stinger, a Genesis coupe, used 335i or if my money gets better, a new 2 series.

Now, if they offer both an N/A & an turbo version... I'd be fine with that.

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Nah, if it's N/A, I'm gonna hate/flame it like I do the FRS for not living up to my expections. I'll just get something else like the Stinger, a Genesis coupe, used 335i or if my money gets better, a new 2 series.
LOL I just had a friend on Facebook call it pretty hot looking and the bastard child of a 510 and a GTR. LOL That is not a bad analogy.
It does nod to the Hakosuka , CPS311 and 510 .
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Do I pay off the Veloster, sell the S13, and then buy an IDX? Or do I trade in the Veloster for an IDX and keep the S13? Decisions decisions...
I'm keeping my veloster T cause you can make it a 13 second car with an ecu and bolt ons making it a fun daily with a warranty. I will probably buy the second or third year of production giving nissan time to work out the kinks.
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The last time I cared about 1/4 miles times Brian Spilner was undercover trying to bust Dominic Toretto.
While not every sports car needs to be a dragster, they need to at least be sporty. Getting whomped on by mini vans and Camrys is just embarrassing.
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While not every sports car needs to be a dragster, they need to at least be sporty. Getting whomped on by mini vans and Camrys is just embarrassing.
Are you out there looking to race minivans and Camrys?

I'm not implying I want the car to be slow but drag racing???

I'm old and have kids though. I race on a track or not at all.
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^^^I think he's talking about passing power. My wife just doesn't get it about why I think her Mini Countryman's paltry 138hp just isn't enough and can be dangerous when trying to merge onto a busy highway because its so goddamn slow and assholes in faster Camrys & Minivans won't let you over.
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Actually for me this is where you are wrong. I would not care how they get 230-240hp
Engine personality is always important. A good note, torque monster, high revving, linear power or turbo. A good engine just needs to have a good character.


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I think most are. Many think turbo motors are always overbuilt, 700hp capable and are just a reflash away from another 50-100hp.


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Though seriously I really don't care how they make the HP as long as its there. THe FRS is underpowered and feels that way.
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Maybe I am spoiled because of the cars I have owned and drive. I want at least 230-250 HP in a 2800lb car at this point.
Thats what makes some of these new cars though pills to swallow. All that money and for many of us, a step backwards in performance.

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My M3 is such a point and go machine its crazy fun.
Having a Turbo would be a cool way to get extra HP on the fly though but for me its not a prerequisite . This car just has fuck you attitude and I like that.
Thats how I felt about the FRS and my 911. I came away from the FRS going "that's nice, but is it $500 a month nice?!"

I bought the 911 because it was an FRS turned up to "11". The driver feedback and handling are feirce, the interior is better built, it out performance the FRS, it has 350Z acceleration and brakes just 3 feet shy of the FRS.

Better yet, the 911 is timeless in appearance and will appreciate instead of depreciate. The only downsides is the 915 trans is "classical" and the HVAC system needs a 3 hour institutional video on how to opperate it
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I think most are. Many think turbo motors are always overbuilt, 700hp capable and are just a reflash away from another 50-100hp.
I do thing some turbo motors are overbuilt (like the 2JZ & RB), but that's not common nowadays. I prefer to think that, rather than being overbuilt, most turbo motors are simply more optimized for boost than the average N/A engine.

The only exception I've really seen has been the S2000's F20c/F22c. Now that's one stout N/A that loves boost....

I don't normally expect 50-100hp from a reflash, but I do hope to get maybe ~40hp out of a reflash, exhaust, downpipe & CAI on most turbo cars. Basically being able to take a 230hp car to 270hp without much difficulty.

There are alot of turbo cars that exceed this modest goal, IMO. It's all about tempering your expectations to be realistic. I think an extra 40hp is sufficient to enhance the character of a car in this weight class without changing it too much or destroying what was originally there.
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^^^I think he's talking about passing power. My wife just doesn't get it about why I think her Mini Countryman's paltry 138hp just isn't enough and can be dangerous when trying to merge onto a busy highway because its so goddamn slow and assholes in faster Camrys & Minivans won't let you over.
Yeah, I guess I didn't think about that really. My Murano and Pathfinder are pretty quick actually.
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I saw the iDX in person on saturday and i was really impressed with the size. the car is no bigger than my evo 9 and just looks so beefy(the nismo version).

I was listening in on conversations from the crowd at cars and coffee and it seems(just a hasty generalization from my experience) that the nismo iDX really appealed to the younger tuner crowd and that beige looking freeflow(?) version catches the eye of the older purist demographic (age 50 and up).

yes it is a hasty generalization based off of 20 or so conversations i heard but in the end it was nice to have people hyped up about a nissan jumping into this market.
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I saw the iDX in person on saturday and i was really impressed with the size. the car is no bigger than my evo 9 and just looks so beefy(the nismo version).

I was listening in on conversations from the crowd at cars and coffee and it seems(just a hasty generalization from my experience) that the nismo iDX really appealed to the younger tuner crowd and that beige looking freeflow(?) version catches the eye of the older purist demographic (age 50 and up).

yes it is a hasty generalization based off of 20 or so conversations i heard but in the end it was nice to have people hyped up about a nissan jumping into this market.
Hehehe and I caught it on the third leg of that little tour at the Petersen Automotive museum. I already shared either or in the future 240sx blah blah blah thread about it.

On the power comments yes it has to hit the target of 230-250hp. That really is the sweet spot for HP in a 2800lb car. It gives it enough to be quick and still keeps it in the realm off drivable for the average buyer.
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RWD cars rarely handle well in corners AND hookup well to launch. I don't give a single fuck about the 1/4 mile time of this thing and would be suspect if it was appreciably faster than similar cars.
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rocket bunny = JUST SAY NO (doesnt matter what car its on)

i think im gonna do another mockup of a production ready IDx, but based on the side view as i already see a few lines i want to clean up!

this car is so much fun aesthetically and its not even in production form yet hahaha
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I'm not gone lie a rocket bucket s13 coupe and instant gentleman Zenki both are boners inducing for me.

Idx one though is gross. Mel's chop is on point though.
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Hey. I have a great idea.

Lets derail this thread by dick swinging our personal taste in visual addons for a car that isn't this one.
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