!Zar!

The price is only as dumb as the buyer.

No point being salty at the sellers.

If there is a market for it, people will sell it.

Why would anyone not try to get top dollar for something theh are selling?

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mechanicalmoron

Said the whiny parts fence?

So basically, fuck them for doing what you do (but a little different).

If it's okay to do it, there's not much line you can draw - it's okay for you because you have pure intentions? If you buy parts from japan and resell them in the US, you're doing the same thing, and this thread is a bunch of bitching about getting your hustles stepped on.

"let's not use any names, or mention any time or place, or any particular subject, or why it bothers us so much, or what bothers us so much, but whatever it is, it really needs to stop, because some people are probably outraged or something"

You know zilvia's done when it's just the different parts-gougers agreeing that everybody should be grateful of their service.

Dipshits trashed all the 240s, ran all the cool bits into walls, parted it all out, and now you're complaining that prices are going up? Poor old you can't profiteer so easily anymore? It's about time, better than prices being artificially low as every last cool car or part is burnt thru in a few years. You all bought your cool shift knobs or whatever just as all the 240s got destroyed, and now people want them, it's not because YOU bought one, and they're just worse people than you.... It's because YOU and your buddies parted out 838755 240s, and now they're largely gone. Your crappy culture consumed itself, because you chose to profit in unsustainable short-term ways.

dizzariot

I disagree.

I get salty because somewhere down the line some fucking cunt started all of this and the trend caught on. Now we're in 2018 and shit is so fucking inflated it's no wonder people mount the "can't afford legit parts" argument when their car looks like a bag of smashed assholes.

I can see how you're playing Devil's Advocate and I really do see what you mean. I'm posing the question of what the fuck can we do as a community to try and make a dent. If you're not with the optimism (that something can be done) that's cool man. Just wanted to get people thinking about it.

1.) There it is. The first dude calling it a hustle. No one in here has an IG page with the word 'entrepreneur' in the bio and an ugly 'car girl girlfriend' rubbing her asshole all over the hood of their car to get IG likes. So yeah, no one here is hustling, playboi.

2.) Obviously people are pissed. There are people in this thread. I'm in fucking Japan and I can't even get shit locally because every fucking neckbeard with a 90s Japanese car resells parts.

3.) Holy shit: put on your tinfoil hats. You're saying that the mark-up is due to fuckboys destroying cars? What the fuck does 'artificially low' mean?

4.) Aren't you the same fucking dude defending shitboxes?

Where's this optimism? Only works when you want to defend a fucking piece of shit posted in the DIW thread? Can you not see the contradictions here...

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Almighty So

Haha are you delusional? i do not constantly hunt auctions for profit strictly with intentions to sell. Nor anything similar. Not sure what you’re even getting at.


But that’s the thing, I’m not trying to hustle parts, and I don’t have intentions to make profit.
Everyone buys and sells parts but buying and selling doesn’t mean you always have intentions to flip things and profit.

Directing your angry misquotes from other people at me? You’re starting to sound like dizzariot is ruining your IG resale’s.

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souljaseth33

haha I should have put more out there. I was't deliberately taking a loss, the item just didn't sell for what I paid. I wasn't upset, and didn't buy to up-sell it, so I took the sale and moved on.

I'm only there for things I'm looking for, not going on there looking to buy & make profit.

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sidewaysil80

This thread is so stupid. If you can't afford something don't bitch about it's fair market value. If something is overpriced it won't sell and capitalism will prevail.

tuzzio

There is a difference between buying parts for cheap and selling them at market value and buying parts to drive the price up.

sidewaysil80

Market value is what something is selling for, period. It doesn't matter how that price was determined or if it's higher than what you think it should be. Nothing is percluding you from doing the same thing, if you have the capital to buy all of a product and take that risk buy all means...

!Zar!

As someone said earlier, this is no different than the sneaker game.

The resell price only goes down due to low demand, or when the market is oversaturated.

So to answer your question as to what can be done? Reallistically, nothing. Maybe try to convince a manufacturer that there is a market for a certain product and try to reproduce the item.

If you see people reselling a product which is widely available elsewhere? Simply call them out on it and provide facts. That’s all you can really do.

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pacotaco345

Good for you

In 2006 it still cost a zillion dollars to import a body kit. Those "fucking cunts" are driving up the prices of shift knobs, thrash seats, 20 y/o gauges and shitty high-offset 3 piece wheels. None of which make a car look cool. Last I checked you can still buy paint in America.

Is your primary occupation importing Japanese goods? No? Then its your hustle.

You can't get shit locally because you've only lived in Japan for a year, Yokosuka at that, land of corner dealerships selling rusty resprayed GTRs for double what they're worth to sailors with more money than brain, and I'm sure you don't speak the language fluently either. I have a handful of friends over there that buy and sell stuff on a weekly basis because they know where to look.

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JrDarknes

^^ I know when Jordans were a big deal I was making a killing selling shoes back when I was a teenager. People couldn't wait 6 hours in line for a high demand shoe but would pay double the original price to own a pair. Yea we can argue if its right or wrong but shit I was only making 7.25 at burger king. Hell yea Im going to take advantage.

bigs pretty much nailed it honestly.

Exactly. My first thought when I read through this thread.


Yup! These guys outbid me on this jacket for $310 dollars a while back. Its been sitting for a year and a half and will never sell because its overpriced
https://www.getautofactory.com/colle...omber-jacket-l

Like its been mentioned before, the market for these "JDM Goodies" is small so its not really a big impact in my opinion and people seem to be ok paying the price for these things so I dont see it as a big deal. I've been overpaying for automotive jackets since GetAutoFactory (constant collection) first started but I'm fine with the prices haha.

Almighty So

I agree with the basics of how capitalism/monopolies work but it’s just a pretty crummy situation. I’m not as gung-ho as some on either side of the situation but it has affected me.

California dudes, imagine some third party dude somehow could successful start brokering in-n-out burger to everyone in the world as a side hustle.
I’m from Chicago and love in-n-out so say I’m willing to pay $20 to get a cheeseburger to my house.
In-n-out catches wind of this and ups their price too. Cause I’m willing to pay. Capitalism. You can’t blame me or in-n-out but isn’t it crummy that your local burger joint would now cost double or triple to enjoy? Is the price still fair because I have more disposable income than you?
It’s not that in-n-out was a secret. I find it strange that everyone would theoretically be okay with something they enjoyed being “ruined” for the sake of justifying capitalism.

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tb13

In-N-Out is good stuff

That's how it works, unfortunately. Once something is easier to get ahold of the price usually jumps, especially if it is something that is sought after. You can't go to your local picknpull to get these parts, therefore when someone is importing them they want their cut for the time they spent. There is nothing wrong with that, but since so many people are importing parts these days the cost is rising and the importers are becoming more greedy by the day.

I deal with Amazon members on a daily basis (I manage a large Amazon account) and today everyone wants their shit yesterday, they don't want to wait for shipping or for auctions to end even if it costs more. To import stuff yourself you need some understanding of the process and patience. You have to use a bidding proxy of some sort, wait for the auction to end, then wait for shipping to your proxy service and finally wait for shipping to you.

We're a society of lazy fucks, why take the time to research how to import parts yourself or what they are actually worth when scumbag McGee will sell you the part today, with a hefty premium of course...

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S14kouki805

"Scumbag McGee" ROFL!!

JrDarknes

No, Bad Comparison.

No


Almighty,
There is no need for a third party person for IN n Out because its still mass produced. If they did notice this, they would just simply ship it to chicago for $20 dollars and never raise the price up in its home location.

The price would only go up if they realized for some reason everybody is willing to pay $20 dollars there. That means the people who would be upset about it wouldn't matter. The majority are fine with paying that amount.

Just for fun, lets say they did raise it to $20 dollars. That middle man would charge you making it $40 dollars, because it cost 20 dollars to get the burger then 40 to get it towards you.

You're dealing with a market where parts are used. Someone is beating you to the punch to the product and has full advantage. If UpGarage was smart and noticed this they would have some type of service to sell there parts overseas to America.



I do agree though, crummy situation. Kinda sucks getting outbid on jackets but oh well. Also, I will never understand the hype of that place, burgers taste disgusting to me and the fries taste like plastic. I'm more of a Five Guys fan

tb13

You dove way too deep into the comparison he was trying to make, stay surface level and it makes since. Was only suppose to show how something that is/was only produced in a limited area can be distributed to others through someone/company and how that can have an effect on the pricing of such an item.

Back to the real topic though, In-N-Out is only good when you eat it fresh and you get something like a 4X4, their singles and doubles are hardly "burgers"

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JrDarknes

No.

In-N-Out is mainly produced in California. ("Was only suppose to show how something that is/was only produced in a limited area")

Distrubuted to chicago Third Party("Was only suppose to show how something that is/was only produced in a limited area can be distributed to others through someone/company")

"and how that can have an effect on the pricing of such an item"
Wont have any effect on the price in California, because Californians can just go to the store without a middle man. Prices would only go up if for some odd reason In N Out just said "Oh lets just raise it to 20 dollars" and people were fine with paying that amount. Then as I mentioned above. He would have to pay $40 dollars. If they noticed someone else is selling their burgers out of state for more money and realizing they're making a profit. I am positive they would start doing it their self and the middle man is screwed.


I usually get a double but I think its because I am a picky eater. I only eat my burgers with meat and cheese like a weirdo.

CrimsonRockett

I love how this derailed from used parts to In-N-Out.

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Almighty So

You took the burger thing a little too far. It was more about the scenario at hand. For the sake of repetitive examples, I know YAJ doesn’t produce grex shift knobs, however grex shift knobs are now average $100 prompt-decision on yaj. Before fees and services. So yeah, now it is exactly like the burger being $20 already and having to pay even more than normal to get it. Exactly the point I was trying to make.
(Before you throw a fit, I am very well aware yaj does not mass produce grex knobs the way in-n-out makes burgers but the scenario remains the same.)
Are grex knobs still cool? Sure
Are they worth $100 plus additional fees and shipping when they used to be $50 flat? Probably not, but all is fair right? YAJ beat me to it lol.

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JrDarknes

I guess the point I was trying to make is and why I didn't like that comparison.

If people are ok with spending that amount on the grex knob, there shouldn't be a issue. Yea it used to be $50 dollars but its highly sought after.

It would have never went up in cost if people weren't fine with spending xxx amount on it. Yea there some people who don't think its worth it but the majority do or else they wouldn't be selling at that price.

dizzariot

Truth. That's kind of what I'm getting at: if we all said "nah man that's fucking stupidly overpriced, check this out" and provide facts to back it we'd essentially drive the prices down to reasonable profit margins over time.

People always want to say I'm hating because it's effecting my 'profiteering' or parts-hunting. I haven't even looked for parts (other than maintenance shit) in a long fucking time. I haven't sold anything from here in a long time, either. This shit largely doesn't effect me anymore but it's still a cancer on the community I'm a part of.

There's a drink out here you can buy at the konbini called Chuhai. They're ~ $1 a can. If I start exporting them at $5+/can that cost more than covers my shipping costs so how much of that markup is just me being a greedy dickhead?

That's what I'm talking about. If these prices are so fucking overinflated and people are still paying them then by boycotting this shit won't we drive prices down to an acceptable level? I'm not saying people shouldn't profit...the problem with them making this a common thing is the price they post it for once they have it.

So people are either too quick to say 'stop bitching' and 'if you can't afford that' but that's a crock of fucking shit. Being able to afford something and willing to let some cuck reseller monetarily assfuck you are two completely different things.

Thank you, though, for posting up some shit to backup why you think this thread sucks. Helps with understanding everyone.

The assumptions made in here are laughable. I like how you had to insert your plug at the bottom in a pseudo-dick-measuring contest. What was the point of this? You don't like what I'm saying so you're trying to debase me? Stick to the topic.

I'm not gonna talk about how 'tied in' I am, my language proficiency, or where I've been to pick up the cars I own. All I ask is that you don't ever, ever fucking put me on the same level as the dumbfucks from base buying GTRs. That's the worst fucking insult I've ever received on this forum.

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dizzariot

Dude I feel like you're not getting it though.

I understand the knobs used to be less.

I understand they're sought after.

So how much is enough? Why are these guys allowed to triple the cost of their purchase and fuck us all over? It's because we let them. It's because people are too stupid to hunt around or call bullshit.

I just hit someone up on IG that shared an IG story showing a bunch of BNIB GREX knobs. I've never had one. I DM'd him asking if he's selling them and he said not at the moment...so why buy 5+ knobs? I'm hoping I can get one because they're cool but rest assured I'm not paying a huge fucking mark-up.

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Almighty So

I get where you’re coming from. Logically makes sense to sell at the top rate of what people are willing to pay.
At the risk of sounding like a hipster douche, it’s a bummer that these new hype boys are just willing to pay more than me when it comes down to it.
Also hurts to think that these same dudes are now the “majority” and the norm.

*before anyone tries to say this is the “poor guy excuse”, throwing your money around like a fool in hopes the internet will think you’re ballin’ on shift knobs is a lot different than actually having money.

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dizzariot

Yeah it just makes you a monster cuck like Hubeny.

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mechanicalmoron

If you buy parts and drive the price up, that's the new market value... duh.

As far as being used, all cars run on used parts.

pacotaco345

Chillllll I didn't put you on that level, I'm just saying that's part of the reason your local parts market sucks. You obviously know its true if it strikes such a chord with you.

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Almighty So

Hahaha I think everyone here knows how market value is determined. I think that’s maaaybe why he said there is a difference in deliberately listing above the current market value to make a profit. Obviously that drives a new market value which is what everyone was talking about in the first place
Welcome aboard, almost.

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mechanicalmoron

Took the mr2 apart, (closed the tab at that point, dunno what he allegedly put together) thinks he can tell anyone anything?

dizzariot

I'm not talking about local, man. YAJ and UpGarage are accessible by anyone. I got offended because the 'GTR base dudes' you described are the type of dick-riders that also flood the market with overpriced shit they get for cheap. They go to UpGrage multiple times in a week, join a forum or make an IG, and drive up prices with their greed. We're all building an archetypal fuckboy with these descriptions.

So how do we educate the dudes with more money than brains? The attitude I'm fighting is the one that believes educating the morons will help the bigger picture but everyone else is cool just overpaying.

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bigs

What do you not understand about supply, demand, and scarcity?

You're getting worked up over something you have absolutely no control over, and blowing it out of proportion. If you want to make a change, go around and publicly denounce each item a reseller has listed for more than you think it's worth. See how far that gets you. Based on the fact that you haven't bought/sold anything in a while - you have zero idea how much certain parts are worth anyway.

I get the point you're trying to make. Reseller buys x-amount of an aftermarket part that is no longer being made, and they eventually get to control the perceived market value. Does it suck for the buyer? Sure does. Are people still going to buy the part? Yup. Is it illegal for the seller to do that? Nope. Resellers will always be around, and they will slowly drive up the price of scarce goods. This is not a new concept.

In the meantime, let's try to enjoy the presence of these parts in U.S. drifting culture, and the ease at which we can now get them. Now is the time to buy. It's only going to get more expensive, and rare parts are going to become harder to find (imagine that).