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S14_Kouki · 08-15-2009, 01:18 PM

^^ What r your plans for this new trunk??

Yea I got another thread but I have to contribute to the Fabrication thread

The paired runners just did not work with the room I had but I will design a topmount mani with paired runners iv been driving it for a couple days now and really I have full spool at 18psi around 3700-3800 rpms so its not bad at all for not being paired.

*ManoNegra* · 08-15-2009, 08:25 PM

@S14 Kouki - man, that manifold regardless of design looks pretty badass
and the welds are sweet, nice work man.

S14_Kouki · 08-17-2009, 06:44 PM

Thank u very much ManoNegra

Here is my cage I built this was the first thing I ever mig welded I am going back over the welds with the tig

240sxaddict · 08-18-2009, 03:42 AM

What was that cage built for?

S14_Kouki · 08-18-2009, 01:23 PM

I build it for scca regulations/rules

Smackthatfourty! · 08-19-2009, 04:28 AM

thats hella fresh
good work

GSXRJJordan · 08-21-2009, 02:55 AM

Done with trunk bracing - I first took out all the damaged portions, ground/scraped out the OEM body glue, and removed a lot of the "big gap filler" I'd sprayed in there before. Then I cut out the rest of of the trunk floor:

Since one of the major reasons I'm doing this is to get proper trunklid/tail light fitment, I wanted to start there... but there's nothing to measure against! The FSM's body alignment pages were virtually useless, since I couldn't work out where they were measuring from without seeing the car from the bottom. I decided to start with an upper cross brace/rear bumper support, and then make bracing for the Kognition GT wing stands.

Mocking everything up was MURDER... when you have no reference points to speak of, and everything moves in ALL 3 DIMENSIONS, its extremely hard to get everything 'square'. Turned out well though ~ then I started on the rest of the 'bottom' of the trunk, which is flat under the subwoofer box and then rakes up @ 10* to match the future diffuser:

In the last pic you can see that I cut one of the cross-braces for extra trunk space. Lastly, I started welding in the trunk floor, then got hungry and called it a night lol.

Hoping to finish up tomorrow. I know this post is pretty quick/not detailed, but I actually put a lot of thought into how I wanted to do this lol. The trunk was REALLY bad before, had sections that would actually creak and moan as I went up driveways or cornered hard - now it'll be solid, quiet, hopefully stiffen up the rear suspension. Icing on the cake is the fact it should still be lighter than what I pulled out, even with using 12ft+ or so of 3/4" sched 60 square tubing and a couple 2'x4' .030" 4130 sheets.

Andrew Bohan · 08-21-2009, 03:25 AM

what the fuck did you do to your car??

GSXRJJordan · 08-21-2009, 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Bohan

what the fuck did you do to your car??

Lol did you never see the inside of the trunk area? I bought it with a smashed back end, had Mike @ iDesigns "replace" the quarterpanel (did an absolute shit job), and just lived with it for a year and a half. Now I'm fixing it, so I can add sound deadening and actually have it be nice to drive in.

stealthsr20 · 08-21-2009, 04:03 AM

I have subscribed to your threads jordan as you are great at cutting things up and making them better

conrad_s13.5 · 08-21-2009, 10:50 AM

hope it all works out!

Maximamike · 08-21-2009, 08:33 PM

Why so much race car stuff with the huuuuge sub box?

Edit: No offense, just curious.

ninja_star · 08-21-2009, 08:37 PM

^ because jeff is gangster like that.

30 pounds isnt going to kill anything. also seen jeffs old trunk area, all I can say to describe it was Hulk Punch

GSXRJJordan · 08-22-2009, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maximamike

Why so much race car stuff with the huuuuge sub box?

Edit: No offense, just curious.

Haha, no offense taken - I'm very confused with this car. I bought it to make it a rarely-street-driven track car, and it's now a rarely-tracked-street car. I LOVE driving it on the street, so I'm now taking steps to make it more comfortable/quiet. At the track, it's AWESOME to have a nice sound system - my car's the life of the party.

Side note: the sub box (and front woofer boxes) are made of 1/2" birch, reinforced inside with fiberglass resin - the sub is a paper cone, Soundstream Reference with a low-mass magnet. With a single 4ch amp, the whole sound system weighs just over 30lbs, with most of the weight just aft of the rear axles. Certainly not making or breaking anything

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninja_star

^ because jeff is gangster like that.

30 pounds isnt going to kill anything. also seen jeffs old trunk area, all I can say to describe it was Hulk Punch

Hahahaha that's seriously the best way to describe it. The wall @ Irwindale is not kind, apparently.

Found a pic of it, after someone 'attempted' a repair, but before Idesigns Mike botched the quarterpanel repair:

Maximamike · 08-22-2009, 03:29 PM

Good enough for me. Fab work looks really nice, interested to see the outcome.

S14_Kouki · 08-23-2009, 07:08 PM

I know where your coming from with replacing a quarterpanel I did mine it was not hard but took time to do it right. I replaced about as big as a section as yours. I would not mind a sub in my trunk as well I love music. and your wing is going to be awesome but by the way things look will your trunk still open???

DeleriousZ · 08-25-2009, 02:30 AM

Some random shit from the z31 crowd.

3" downpipe:

wastegate dump (open dump)

custom upper rear coilover mount to adapt s13 coils to the z31.

FPR mount

Front s13 coilovers (stance) adapted to z31

I don't have the faintest fucking idea what i'm doing, but it's working out so far.

S14_Kouki · 08-25-2009, 12:38 PM

^ nice pipes ^

I wanted to post up pics of the panel I replaced

sorry for the sportmax they r gone now thank god.

the panel i replaced the whole thing.

came out ok seeing how I am not a body expert and saved me a shit ton of money lol

GSXRJJordan · 08-25-2009, 01:51 PM

What's the fitment like on the inside? My quarterpanel replacement looked fine from the outside, but there were gaps on the inside, and that let a bunch of road grime and road noise into the cabin. Also, it was incompletely welded to the body, so it 'creaked' when I'd go up driveways and lift a tire off.

S14_Kouki · 08-25-2009, 04:21 PM

Ill have to take a pic of the inside. But the fitment is perfect on the inside even where the charcoal canister vent thingy is. I completely (mig) welded it to the rest of the body. Iv had it done for like close to 2 years now and I have had not 1 prob with it cracking and it does not leak at all and the road grime stays outside

. My car has always been really loud so idk about the noise lol

CrazyIvan · 08-26-2009, 12:49 AM

Here's some inspiration guys.
VWvortex Forums: V10 E30 M3 Build

GSXRJJordan · 08-26-2009, 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyIvan

Here's some inspiration guys.
VWvortex Forums: V10 E30 M3 Build

Seriously impressive build... I knew when I saw the pic of the V10, and it's brand new from BMW, that it was going to be a high-dollar build. The powertrain/suspension jig, and the Moton shocks, are the most impressive parts to me.

I look at that chassis and think, "Wow, too bad he mod'd the firewall, now he can't compete anywhere with it" lol.

JRas · 08-26-2009, 11:09 AM

^ v10 M3 build is epic

those metal widened fenders are badass

S14_Kouki · 08-26-2009, 11:16 AM

OMFG that is a fucking awesome build someone has to much money geez I wish I could do something like that. It says V10 in a box ahahahahahahahah

Otto347 · 08-27-2009, 10:34 PM

No way I would cover up those throttle bodys, individual filters would look killer!

Bad ass build non the less.

bloodangels13 · 08-28-2009, 08:05 AM

thats Piper motorsports here in VA. Im friends with the guys there, very top notch stuff. Saw the car awhile back when the started the job

bardabe · 08-28-2009, 01:33 PM

im not gonna lie that is mpretty gangster

finalimport · 08-28-2009, 04:50 PM

there is some dam good legit work on this thread ... props

GSXRJJordan · 08-29-2009, 01:32 AM

More trunk work done the last few days - just a few more spots to patch up with lil pieces of sheet metal, then it gets cleaned/bondo'd/covered with Damplifier Pro.

I don't know if these pics show it as much as the "naked" ones from last week, the supports are triangulated to (hopefully) add rigidity to the quarterpanels, as before they would visibly flex (one goes up, the other goes down) when taking driveways/etc - I know that I can jump on one side now and it's not even close to flexing. Also, I tried to minimize welding the supports parallel to the centerline, so that I'll still have a little crumple action if rear-ended, and hopefully the whole thing won't collapse if I get tagged on a rear corner. The support members are all welded to the frame rails.

It's not symmetrical, since the inboard exhaust hanger is so far towards the centerline... also, you can see that it's flat for a section (where my sub box will sit), then tilts up at 10* - this 10* slant is perfect for a diffuser, and if continued forward, would meet a future undertray just under the rear subframe LCA mounts.

Discuss?

Om1kron · 08-30-2009, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

What's the fitment like on the inside? My quarterpanel replacement looked fine from the outside, but there were gaps on the inside, and that let a bunch of road grime and road noise into the cabin. Also, it was incompletely welded to the body, so it 'creaked' when I'd go up driveways and lift a tire off.

tell me about it. I always wondered why it creaked when I went up driveways. bought the car with a fender pull, the day I jacked the car up and looked at the rear tubs I saw this.

and so we chopped out those metal strips and did this.

not only is it going to be sealed up now, it will be greatly stronger in the back and the rear suspension isn't "free floating" anymore per say.

and once I get money to build a subframe I can also do some sick tuckage lol.

08-21-2009, 02:55 AM	#2137
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: << 626 >> Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Done with trunk bracing - I first took out all the damaged portions, ground/scraped out the OEM body glue, and removed a lot of the "big gap filler" I'd sprayed in there before. Then I cut out the rest of of the trunk floor: Since one of the major reasons I'm doing this is to get proper trunklid/tail light fitment, I wanted to start there... but there's nothing to measure against! The FSM's body alignment pages were virtually useless, since I couldn't work out where they were measuring from without seeing the car from the bottom. I decided to start with an upper cross brace/rear bumper support, and then make bracing for the Kognition GT wing stands. Mocking everything up was MURDER... when you have no reference points to speak of, and everything moves in ALL 3 DIMENSIONS, its extremely hard to get everything 'square'. Turned out well though ~ then I started on the rest of the 'bottom' of the trunk, which is flat under the subwoofer box and then rakes up @ 10* to match the future diffuser: In the last pic you can see that I cut one of the cross-braces for extra trunk space. Lastly, I started welding in the trunk floor, then got hungry and called it a night lol. Hoping to finish up tomorrow. I know this post is pretty quick/not detailed, but I actually put a lot of thought into how I wanted to do this lol. The trunk was REALLY bad before, had sections that would actually creak and moan as I went up driveways or cornered hard - now it'll be solid, quiet, hopefully stiffen up the rear suspension. Icing on the cake is the fact it should still be lighter than what I pulled out, even with using 12ft+ or so of 3/4" sched 60 square tubing and a couple 2'x4' .030" 4130 sheets. __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

08-21-2009, 10:50 AM	#2141
conrad_s13.5 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: STL Age: 34 Posts: 1,533 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	hope it all works out! __________________ cONtRol FReAkS

08-25-2009, 01:51 PM	#2149
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: << 626 >> Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	What's the fitment like on the inside? My quarterpanel replacement looked fine from the outside, but there were gaps on the inside, and that let a bunch of road grime and road noise into the cabin. Also, it was incompletely welded to the body, so it 'creaked' when I'd go up driveways and lift a tire off. __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

08-25-2009, 04:21 PM	#2150
S14_Kouki Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: TPA Posts: 1,947 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Ill have to take a pic of the inside. But the fitment is perfect on the inside even where the charcoal canister vent thingy is. I completely (mig) welded it to the rest of the body. Iv had it done for like close to 2 years now and I have had not 1 prob with it cracking and it does not leak at all and the road grime stays outside . My car has always been really loud so idk about the noise lol __________________ http://www.fabthis.com http://www.childhoodproductions.com/dbfab/store.html

08-26-2009, 11:09 AM	#2153
JRas Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Arizona Age: 32 Posts: 1,503 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	^ v10 M3 build is epic those metal widened fenders are badass __________________

08-15-2009, 01:18 PM	#2131
S14_Kouki Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: TPA Posts: 1,947 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	^^ What r your plans for this new trunk?? Yea I got another thread but I have to contribute to the Fabrication thread The paired runners just did not work with the room I had but I will design a topmount mani with paired runners iv been driving it for a couple days now and really I have full spool at 18psi around 3700-3800 rpms so its not bad at all for not being paired.

08-15-2009, 08:25 PM	#2132
ManoNegra Guild of Skullduggerous Intent Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Socal Posts: 7,841 Trader Rating: (48) Feedback Score: 48 reviews	@S14 Kouki - man, that manifold regardless of design looks pretty badass and the welds are sweet, nice work man.

08-17-2009, 06:44 PM	#2133
S14_Kouki Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: TPA Posts: 1,947 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Thank u very much ManoNegra Here is my cage I built this was the first thing I ever mig welded I am going back over the welds with the tig

08-18-2009, 03:42 AM	#2134
240sxaddict Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: MD Age: 35 Posts: 89 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	What was that cage built for?

08-18-2009, 01:23 PM	#2135
S14_Kouki Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: TPA Posts: 1,947 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	I build it for scca regulations/rules

08-19-2009, 04:28 AM	#2136
Smackthatfourty! Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal Age: 36 Posts: 27 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	thats hella fresh good work

08-21-2009, 03:25 AM	#2138
Andrew Bohan Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Location: Location Posts: 8,330 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	what the fuck did you do to your car??

08-21-2009, 04:03 AM	#2140
stealthsr20 Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: oklahoma Age: 37 Posts: 256 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I have subscribed to your threads jordan as you are great at cutting things up and making them better

08-21-2009, 08:33 PM	#2142
Maximamike Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2005 Location: Stoughton, MA Posts: 369 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Why so much race car stuff with the huuuuge sub box? Edit: No offense, just curious.

08-21-2009, 08:37 PM	#2143
ninja_star BANNED Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hong Kong Age: 32 Posts: 195 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	^ because jeff is gangster like that. 30 pounds isnt going to kill anything. also seen jeffs old trunk area, all I can say to describe it was Hulk Punch

08-22-2009, 03:29 PM	#2145
Maximamike Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2005 Location: Stoughton, MA Posts: 369 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Good enough for me. Fab work looks really nice, interested to see the outcome.

08-23-2009, 07:08 PM	#2146
S14_Kouki Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: TPA Posts: 1,947 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	I know where your coming from with replacing a quarterpanel I did mine it was not hard but took time to do it right. I replaced about as big as a section as yours. I would not mind a sub in my trunk as well I love music. and your wing is going to be awesome but by the way things look will your trunk still open???

08-25-2009, 02:30 AM	#2147
DeleriousZ Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kelowna BC Canada Age: 35 Posts: 428 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Some random shit from the z31 crowd. 3" downpipe: wastegate dump (open dump) custom upper rear coilover mount to adapt s13 coils to the z31. FPR mount Front s13 coilovers (stance) adapted to z31 I don't have the faintest fucking idea what i'm doing, but it's working out so far.

08-25-2009, 12:38 PM	#2148
S14_Kouki Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: TPA Posts: 1,947 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	^ nice pipes ^ I wanted to post up pics of the panel I replaced sorry for the sportmax they r gone now thank god. the panel i replaced the whole thing. came out ok seeing how I am not a body expert and saved me a shit ton of money lol

08-26-2009, 12:49 AM	#2151
CrazyIvan Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Kissimmee, FL Age: 39 Posts: 1,820 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Here's some inspiration guys. VWvortex Forums: V10 E30 M3 Build

08-26-2009, 11:16 AM	#2154
S14_Kouki Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: TPA Posts: 1,947 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	OMFG that is a fucking awesome build someone has to much money geez I wish I could do something like that. It says V10 in a box ahahahahahahahah __________________ http://www.fabthis.com http://www.childhoodproductions.com/dbfab/store.html

08-28-2009, 01:33 PM	#2157
bardabe Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SoCal Age: 31 Posts: 4,716 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: bardabe Feedback Score: 10 reviews	im not gonna lie that is mpretty gangster __________________ Review Thread

08-28-2009, 04:50 PM	#2158
finalimport Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: socal Posts: 27 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	there is some dam good legit work on this thread ... props

08-29-2009, 01:32 AM	#2159
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: << 626 >> Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	More trunk work done the last few days - just a few more spots to patch up with lil pieces of sheet metal, then it gets cleaned/bondo'd/covered with Damplifier Pro. I don't know if these pics show it as much as the "naked" ones from last week, the supports are triangulated to (hopefully) add rigidity to the quarterpanels, as before they would visibly flex (one goes up, the other goes down) when taking driveways/etc - I know that I can jump on one side now and it's not even close to flexing. Also, I tried to minimize welding the supports parallel to the centerline, so that I'll still have a little crumple action if rear-ended, and hopefully the whole thing won't collapse if I get tagged on a rear corner. The support members are all welded to the frame rails. It's not symmetrical, since the inboard exhaust hanger is so far towards the centerline... also, you can see that it's flat for a section (where my sub box will sit), then tilts up at 10* - this 10* slant is perfect for a diffuser, and if continued forward, would meet a future undertray just under the rear subframe LCA mounts. Discuss? __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

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