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wanna240 · 08-13-2015, 09:17 PM

If I buy a bare 2jz ge block, with nothing on it, could I put all 2jz gte parts on it? And would that make it a 2jz gte?

KAT-PWR · 08-13-2015, 09:22 PM

If you marry your cousin, have a baby, but it doesn't come out retarded... is it still an inbred?
I bet google knows, brb.

wanna240 · 08-13-2015, 09:23 PM

I've tried searching, but all I can find is that the GE is the non turbo version of the GTE. Nothing about oil galleys, bore or other block parts.

2muchboost · 08-14-2015, 12:54 AM

Don't convert parts unless you have to. Swap in the GTE head if needed and call it a day. GE block is ver capable and if memory serves me right has no oil squirters.

MikeyMikee · 08-14-2015, 06:07 AM

Ge has no oil squirters, gte does

Koukiii · 08-14-2015, 07:03 AM

Ok I am pretty versed on 2j's so I can help you out. The GE block is the exact same as GTE block except for the GTE having oil squirters. If you wish you could even drill and install the squirters into a GE block but it is not needed. GTE has it because stock pistons were designed to be cooled by the squirters.

The GE and GTE share the same crank and rods. Pistons are different between the two. You could swap GTE pistons and head onto a GE no problem.

S-Verteen · 08-14-2015, 07:42 AM

Koukiii is right heres a fun link fo ya http://my.is/forums/f114/how-install...-block-410078/

wanna240 · 08-14-2015, 08:38 AM

Thanks a lot everyone. I will be picking up a 2jz block very soon.

2muchboost · 08-14-2015, 09:51 AM

You don't need oil squirters btw. Plenty of folks on the NA-T site that were at or above 1k rwhp with no issues. Back when I did the swap there weren't many NA-T cams or front facing intakes. Now they are abundant. I had swapped the GTE CPS which was a pain in the ass endeavor so I finally just swapped on a GTE head onto the GTE block.

wanna240 · 08-14-2015, 10:08 AM

The real pain in the ass will be finding a manual transmission... Getrag transmissions are $7000 and r154 transmissions are $5000 new.

JM216S14 · 08-14-2015, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by wanna240

The real pain in the ass will be finding a manual transmission... Getrag transmissions are $7000 and r154 transmissions are $5000 new.

Its an expensive swap in general...

wanna240 · 08-14-2015, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by joelmerritt

Its an expensive swap in general...

Yeah, I'm definitely doing one but it won't be done for a while. Thanks everyone who awnsered.

silviaks2nr · 08-14-2015, 10:33 AM

Pontiac solstice trans is 1100 new, but yeah. Expensive swap and judging from your previous posts it doesn't look like you have a lot of spending money.

2muchboost · 08-14-2015, 02:06 PM

Geez guess someone got a deal when I sold my R154 with all MC upgrades and a fresh rebuild for $1750 shipped but that was about 2 years ago. They are becoming rare for sure and if you want big power the Getrag is the only way to go if you are sticking with Toyota....but the price. Another option is swapping the 350z CD009 trans which is a beast in stock form. My buddy did it with this adapter and had no issues http://collinsadapters.com/index.php...-swap-kit.html. He picked up the trans with under 30k miles for about $600 shipped in mint condition.

wanna240 · 08-14-2015, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 2muchboost

Geez guess someone got a deal when I sold my R154 with all MC upgrades and a fresh rebuild for $1750 shipped but that was about 2 years ago. They are becoming rare for sure and if you want big power the Getrag is the only way to go if you are sticking with Toyota....but the price. Another option is swapping the 350z CD009 trans which is a beast in stock form. My buddy did it with this adapter and had no issues http://collinsadapters.com/index.php...-swap-kit.html. He picked up the trans with under 30k miles for about $600 shipped in mint condition.

Wow, they sure did get a deal. I'll think about my trans options when I get closer to swap time. Maybe I can luck out and get one out of a wrecked TT Supra

Kingtal0n · 08-14-2015, 02:17 PM

what about the oil feed and coolant feeds for the turbochargers? And the oil drain back to the pan?

Koukiii · 08-14-2015, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingtal0n

what about the oil feed and coolant feeds for the turbochargers? And the oil drain back to the pan?

The GE block has the provisions for the oil feed, just needs to be drilled out I think. Coolant feeds I'm not too sure.

2muchboost · 08-14-2015, 05:15 PM

Feed can be had off the IS300 oil filter union bolt. Oil return I just welded a setup onto the oil pan. Took my buddy's advice on the feed setup and worked like a charm. Here is my old thread and how to access ant tap the oil pressure sensor area and get a direct feed of oil. Done right I can't recall one failure due to oil pressure.

#/f/showthread.php?t=497062

08-13-2015, 09:17 PM	#1
wanna240 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 268 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	2jz block question If I buy a bare 2jz ge block, with nothing on it, could I put all 2jz gte parts on it? And would that make it a 2jz gte?

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KAT-PWR Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: US Posts: 2,040 Trader Rating: (11) Rides Gallery: KAT-PWR Feedback Score: 11 reviews	If you marry your cousin, have a baby, but it doesn't come out retarded... is it still an inbred? I bet google knows, brb. __________________ MRP Manufacturing

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silviaks2nr Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: SC Posts: 2,105 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Pontiac solstice trans is 1100 new, but yeah. Expensive swap and judging from your previous posts it doesn't look like you have a lot of spending money. __________________ '98 240sx 5spd

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2muchboost Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Austin, TX Age: 37 Posts: 2,183 Trader Rating: (33) Feedback Score: 33 reviews	Feed can be had off the IS300 oil filter union bolt. Oil return I just welded a setup onto the oil pan. Took my buddy's advice on the feed setup and worked like a charm. Here is my old thread and how to access ant tap the oil pressure sensor area and get a direct feed of oil. Done right I can't recall one failure due to oil pressure. #/f/showthread.php?t=497062 Last edited by 2muchboost; 08-24-2015 at 01:23 PM..

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08-13-2015, 09:23 PM	#3
wanna240 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 268 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I've tried searching, but all I can find is that the GE is the non turbo version of the GTE. Nothing about oil galleys, bore or other block parts.

08-14-2015, 12:54 AM	#4
2muchboost Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Austin, TX Age: 37 Posts: 2,183 Trader Rating: (33) Feedback Score: 33 reviews	Don't convert parts unless you have to. Swap in the GTE head if needed and call it a day. GE block is ver capable and if memory serves me right has no oil squirters.

08-14-2015, 06:07 AM	#5
MikeyMikee Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: staten island Age: 30 Posts: 141 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ge has no oil squirters, gte does

08-14-2015, 07:03 AM	#6
Koukiii Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Miami, FL Age: 29 Posts: 349 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Ok I am pretty versed on 2j's so I can help you out. The GE block is the exact same as GTE block except for the GTE having oil squirters. If you wish you could even drill and install the squirters into a GE block but it is not needed. GTE has it because stock pistons were designed to be cooled by the squirters. The GE and GTE share the same crank and rods. Pistons are different between the two. You could swap GTE pistons and head onto a GE no problem.

08-14-2015, 07:42 AM	#7
S-Verteen Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Quad Cities Posts: 96 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Koukiii is right heres a fun link fo ya http://my.is/forums/f114/how-install...-block-410078/

08-14-2015, 08:38 AM	#8
wanna240 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 268 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks a lot everyone. I will be picking up a 2jz block very soon.

08-14-2015, 09:51 AM	#9
2muchboost Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Austin, TX Age: 37 Posts: 2,183 Trader Rating: (33) Feedback Score: 33 reviews	You don't need oil squirters btw. Plenty of folks on the NA-T site that were at or above 1k rwhp with no issues. Back when I did the swap there weren't many NA-T cams or front facing intakes. Now they are abundant. I had swapped the GTE CPS which was a pain in the ass endeavor so I finally just swapped on a GTE head onto the GTE block.

08-14-2015, 10:08 AM	#10
wanna240 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 268 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The real pain in the ass will be finding a manual transmission... Getrag transmissions are $7000 and r154 transmissions are $5000 new.

08-14-2015, 02:06 PM	#14
2muchboost Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Austin, TX Age: 37 Posts: 2,183 Trader Rating: (33) Feedback Score: 33 reviews	Geez guess someone got a deal when I sold my R154 with all MC upgrades and a fresh rebuild for $1750 shipped but that was about 2 years ago. They are becoming rare for sure and if you want big power the Getrag is the only way to go if you are sticking with Toyota....but the price. Another option is swapping the 350z CD009 trans which is a beast in stock form. My buddy did it with this adapter and had no issues http://collinsadapters.com/index.php...-swap-kit.html. He picked up the trans with under 30k miles for about $600 shipped in mint condition.

08-14-2015, 02:17 PM	#16
Kingtal0n Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Florida Age: 38 Posts: 4,649 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	what about the oil feed and coolant feeds for the turbochargers? And the oil drain back to the pan?