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*jspecusa* · 10-11-2012, 06:19 PM

I lost all faith in Nissan when they went from Z32 to Z33/Z34.
There's not much performance gain between them, personally I actually
like the look of the Z32 over the new ones(It looks like a sport car).

Also, what kills it for me is when they only offer the R35 in auto and decide it to make
it big and heavy like the supra/3000gt.

After 20 years, Japan still can't come up with a car that's sexy and great handling as the FD3S.

BossHogg · 10-11-2012, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by driftsucky

Uhhhhhh...yeah. 180k in 10+ years. I mean...I GUESS that's good...right? I mean, for a country..right? And the people from 02/03...wouldn't they have wanted to upgrade by at least 10? The numbers dropped by like 1/3. But...well nevermind. It'll sell.

A lot changes in 10 years.....people have kids or whatever else happens in life. The car becomes impractical to their "new" life style etc. Not to mention, hard times in society. I mean what are you basing your sales off of for something to be considered "good"? Its a highly selective market for a 2 seater car that costs a decent amount. Makes perfect sense to me. Give me another car manufacturer with a car like the Z that sold more for the same price tag. Most people are buying family sedans/suvs when it comes to 30+k. So yea, I would say it was a success. You see them everywhere, if you live in actual society and not some po-dunk small town. Anyways, I could care less really. If a new s16 comes out and maintains the S car basics/purpose, ill buy it cash and start modding it. But that's just what I'd do.

ReEducation · 10-18-2012, 11:01 PM

A new, redesigned S-chassis would undoubtedly sell better than the Z, but it would take more than a new, sleek body style with an SR20. If they came out with an S16, it would probably cost in the neighborhood of 25-30k USD for base model. The SR is a great engine, but who is really gonna pay that much for fresh new S16 with an engine that ultimately been around for over 20 years? Now an S16 with a MR18DET/MR20DET would be interesting or even a QR25DET. Give it a T28 or even a small T3 size turbo and a good factory tune. I could see that overtaking the market

***dorkidori_s13*** · 10-19-2012, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReEducation

A new, redesigned S-chassis would undoubtedly sell better than the Z, but it would take more than a new, sleek body style with an SR20. If they came out with an S16, it would probably cost in the neighborhood of 25-30k USD for base model. The SR is a great engine, but who is really gonna pay that much for fresh new S16 with an engine that ultimately been around for over 20 years? Now an S16 with a MR18DET/MR20DET would be interesting or even a QR25DET. Give it a T28 or even a small T3 size turbo and a good factory tune. I could see that overtaking the market

this post seriously made me want to punch baby jesus thru a plate glass window while eating a cheeze sangwich.

if youre going to post in this thread, please do it with information that actually CONTRIBUTES to the "mini Z" rumors, not something that has been covered a million times in previous threads which is completely asinine

Bambi · 10-19-2012, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

this post seriously made me want to punch baby jesus thru a plate glass window while eating a cheeze sangwich.

icardfp

Wow, bro.

What kind of cheese?

***dorkidori_s13*** · 10-19-2012, 12:22 PM

limburger and swiss

JKL1031 · 10-22-2012, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragonbreath

Gotta be bs. 36000 can get you a much better car than the FRS.

You,,,you would pay $36000 for a lil 200hp RWD subaru???

The mini-z thing is not going to be the new Z.

The 2015 or so Z will be a Z, but will be turbo 4 as from what I can remember while I interned with the company. The whole idea is putting the "Z (not an S-anything) on a diet. Correct me if i'm wrong. the only problem I see is how will they get any of their turbo 4 engines above 300hp to be competitive or not take a huge power drop in the Z series.

And for the build old cars again dreamers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqRLIPFFWTM

Bambi · 10-22-2012, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JKL1031

You,,,you would pay $36000 for a lil 200hp RWD subaru???

The mini-z thing is not going to be the new Z.

The 2015 or so Z will be a Z, but will be turbo 4 as from what I can remember while I interned with the company. The whole idea is putting the "Z (not an S-anything) on a diet. Correct me if i'm wrong. the only problem I see is how will they get any of their turbo 4 engines above 300hp to be worth it.

If you don't mind me asking, what did you intern as and where?

JKL1031 · 10-22-2012, 07:58 PM

Process engineering at the Mississippi plant, just reading Company news emails,,nothing the public cant dig up.

***dorkidori_s13*** · 10-22-2012, 09:14 PM

i HATE watching that fraking video! it reminds me that the magical days of cars are over and that i will NEVER own a brand new S13

seriously, how f'n sick would it be to buy a brand new 180sx TypeX. no having to swap motors. no having to fix other peoples abuse to the car. no having to repaint the car after 20 years of sun abuse. just get it, throw an exhaust and some coilovers on it and enjoy it the way god intended, boosted and smog legal

anyone have a time machine they wanna lend me so i can go back 20 years to when cars were actually FUN instead of bloated and powered by batteries?

K_style · 10-22-2012, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspecusa

After 20 years, Japan still can't come up with a car that's sexy and great handling as the FD3S.

Yep, that's very sad true..

Heytheremr2 · 02-11-2013, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRIFTER-M

Why do people always question "will anybody here actually spend 25k on a new car" or "who here is actually in a position to make payments?".

Like, DUH - most people probably spend a few thousand yearly simply keeping their abused s-chassis running.

Tis why I bought a 2.0t R-Spec Genesis.

And still had a s-chassis.

Most people with a regular job can afford payments. If Nissan introduced a new S, you bet I would buy it. As would a ton of members here who have grown up.

This is very true

But my problem is not having a well enough credit score for a dealership or bank to loan me the money for one

But whatever, I'm not gonna die for not having a car from this millennium. I'll just keep my old car and build my credit.

EDacIouSX · 02-11-2013, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspecusa

I lost all faith in Nissan when they went from Z32 to Z33/Z34.
There's not much performance gain between them, personally I actually
like the look of the Z32 over the new ones(It looks like a sport car).

Also, what kills it for me is when they only offer the R35 in auto and decide it to make
it big and heavy like the supra/3000gt.

After 20 years, Japan still can't come up with a car that's sexy and great handling as the FD3S.

i think the FRS is pretty hot, we'll have to see how the later kouki models may look if they do any revisions.

*jspecusa* · 02-11-2013, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EDacIouSX

i think the FRS is pretty hot, we'll have to see how the later kouki models may look if they do any revisions.

Wrong motor- more modern 3sge beam motor about 250hp like s2000 would've been better.
The car has nice body line, just too much rice in the front and rear end like the 370z
It should've look almost like this

GRMN SPORTS FR Concept PLATINUM |

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jspecusa Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: socal Posts: 1,339 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	I lost all faith in Nissan when they went from Z32 to Z33/Z34. There's not much performance gain between them, personally I actually like the look of the Z32 over the new ones(It looks like a sport car). Also, what kills it for me is when they only offer the R35 in auto and decide it to make it big and heavy like the supra/3000gt. After 20 years, Japan still can't come up with a car that's sexy and great handling as the FD3S. __________________ Nissan Japan: "road to happiness has many curves" Jdmlivin: "Jdm is dead, the yen is crazy"

10-19-2012, 12:22 PM	#126
*dorkidori_s13* ITS LISA'S FAULT!!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Las Vegas Age: 39 Posts: 7,332 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	limburger and swiss __________________ Bought something from me??? POST A REVIEW HERE!!!

10-22-2012, 09:14 PM	#130
*dorkidori_s13* ITS LISA'S FAULT!!! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Las Vegas Age: 39 Posts: 7,332 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	i HATE watching that fraking video! it reminds me that the magical days of cars are over and that i will NEVER own a brand new S13 seriously, how f'n sick would it be to buy a brand new 180sx TypeX. no having to swap motors. no having to fix other peoples abuse to the car. no having to repaint the car after 20 years of sun abuse. just get it, throw an exhaust and some coilovers on it and enjoy it the way god intended, boosted and smog legal anyone have a time machine they wanna lend me so i can go back 20 years to when cars were actually FUN instead of bloated and powered by batteries? __________________ Bought something from me??? POST A REVIEW HERE!!!

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10-18-2012, 11:01 PM	#123
ReEducation Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Rockton, IL Age: 31 Posts: 318 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	A new, redesigned S-chassis would undoubtedly sell better than the Z, but it would take more than a new, sleek body style with an SR20. If they came out with an S16, it would probably cost in the neighborhood of 25-30k USD for base model. The SR is a great engine, but who is really gonna pay that much for fresh new S16 with an engine that ultimately been around for over 20 years? Now an S16 with a MR18DET/MR20DET would be interesting or even a QR25DET. Give it a T28 or even a small T3 size turbo and a good factory tune. I could see that overtaking the market

10-22-2012, 07:58 PM	#129
JKL1031 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: MS Posts: 427 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Process engineering at the Mississippi plant, just reading Company news emails,,nothing the public cant dig up.