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drftmark · 01-02-2009, 11:53 AM

Ok so the problem is simple yet complicated.

I was removing my rear speakers and the clarion amplifier from my 96 s14.

So I unscrewed/unbolted them. I wanted to get rid of all of the wires also...

So I just cut them off.

Tried to start car now it won't even crank.

I have power in everything, except when I turn to start car the relay just clicks and it doesn't even crank.

Is their a wire that I cut that I need to reconnect or something? Any help would be appreciated.

drftmark · 01-02-2009, 12:04 PM

Here are some pics:

Wires that REMAIN IN THE CAR, going to tail lights/trunk light etc...

Wires that got cut out:
THEY ARE ALL THE SAME WIRES, just two different pictures.

98koukile · 01-02-2009, 12:07 PM

Did you snip the fuel pump wire? maybe not fully but it could be grounding on something... this is why I never cut wires haha

GSXRJJordan · 01-02-2009, 12:41 PM

No, he didn't cut the fuel pump WIRES (there's 4 of them). You have a starter problem (maybe dead battery?). Get some jumper cables and start that bish back up.

drftmark · 01-02-2009, 12:57 PM

I tried hitting the starter quite a few times with a pipe and no luck, and I will try and jump it again.

I have had starter trouble before but I had it rebuilt not long ago.

Are there any important wires running along the driver side of the car that would do this? If so which color.

and btw I can hear the fuel pump come on and I have fuel pressure.

The problem is the starter is just not cranking.

GSXRJJordan · 01-02-2009, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by drftmark

The problem is the starter is just not cranking.

That's exactly what I said. No, nothing that runs down the driver's side of the interior harness has anything to do with your problem, as you're
getting clicks so it's not your clutch interlock.

drftmark · 01-02-2009, 01:18 PM

I guess I will jack up the car and hit the starter really good and try to start it.

If that doesn't work I guess I will take it out and see what the problem is.

Another thing is there is an alpine security/alarm system that is under the drivers seat.

A bunch of wires are connected to that, so then would it be possible that there is some sort of ignition wire going to it and I maybe have just loosened the connection and it is preventing it from starting?

btw I really appreciate the help

GSXRJJordan · 01-02-2009, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by drftmark

I guess I will jack up the car and hit the starter really good and try to start it.

If that doesn't work I guess I will take it out and see what the problem is.

Another thing is there is an alpine security/alarm system that is under the drivers seat.

A bunch of wires are connected to that, so then would it be possible that there is some sort of ignition wire going to it and I maybe have just loosened the connection and it is preventing it from starting?

btw I really appreciate the help

Dude, stop hitting your starter. If you recently had it rebuilt, that's not the problem. GIVE IT SOME JUICE - jumper cables to a running car, jesus.

Have someone else turn the key while you listen for clicks inside the engine bay - if you're getting a starter click, then it has nothing to do with your alarm or wiring - if not, then that might be where your problem is.

Bigsyke · 01-02-2009, 05:42 PM

take a wire, attach one end to the starter and the other end to a good ground.

projectRDM · 01-02-2009, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsyke

take a wire, attach one end to the starter and the other end to a good ground.

Why in hell would you do that? The starter is not ground triggered. Grounding it will blow a shit ton of fuses.

To the OP, did you cut each wire separately, and tape them all up? You do know there's power leads to the amps, shorting them would blow fuses too, not enough to not start but enough to make a lot of other things not work.

redsx13 · 01-02-2009, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by projectRDM

Why in hell would you do that? The starter is not ground triggered. Grounding it will blow a shit ton of fuses.

To the OP, did you cut each wire separately, and tape them all up? You do know there's power leads to the amps, shorting them would blow fuses too, not enough to not start but enough to make a lot of other things not work.

ya dont do that. just bridge the solenoid

redsx13 · 01-02-2009, 06:34 PM

i wonder if you may have grounded one of your power wires and fried your ecu. i have seen it done with maf wires....just a thought

drftmark · 01-02-2009, 10:24 PM

I tried jumping it, no luck.

I removed all of the wires completley, and still nothing.

Jacked the front end of the car up, got under, looked at starter, and the freaking clip was somehow disconnected.

Plugged it back in and it cranked right up.

So problem solved, thanks for the help everyone.

canseri · 06-01-2010, 10:51 PM

I have been having a similar issue with my car for some time now keys in turn key all relays click and....
Nothing No load nothing ill check the solenoid clip and see what happens.

03redTuscani · 06-02-2010, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by canseri

I have been having a similar issue with my car for some time now keys in turn key all relays click and....
Nothing No load nothing ill check the solenoid clip and see what happens.

Thanks for bumping a year old thread to tell us what you plan to do about your problem.

01-02-2009, 11:53 AM	#1
drftmark Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: tx Posts: 524 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Removing rear speakers, now car won't start Ok so the problem is simple yet complicated. I was removing my rear speakers and the clarion amplifier from my 96 s14. So I unscrewed/unbolted them. I wanted to get rid of all of the wires also... So I just cut them off. Tried to start car now it won't even crank. I have power in everything, except when I turn to start car the relay just clicks and it doesn't even crank. Is their a wire that I cut that I need to reconnect or something? Any help would be appreciated.

01-02-2009, 12:07 PM	#3
98koukile Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Western Mass Age: 34 Posts: 949 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Did you snip the fuel pump wire? maybe not fully but it could be grounding on something... this is why I never cut wires haha __________________ Just talking about cars, one at a time Horsepower sells cars torque wins races -Shelby

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GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: << 626 >> Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	No, he didn't cut the fuel pump WIRES (there's 4 of them). You have a starter problem (maybe dead battery?). Get some jumper cables and start that bish back up. __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

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01-02-2009, 12:04 PM	#2
drftmark Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: tx Posts: 524 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Here are some pics: Wires that REMAIN IN THE CAR, going to tail lights/trunk light etc... Wires that got cut out: THEY ARE ALL THE SAME WIRES, just two different pictures.

01-02-2009, 12:57 PM	#5
drftmark Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: tx Posts: 524 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	I tried hitting the starter quite a few times with a pipe and no luck, and I will try and jump it again. I have had starter trouble before but I had it rebuilt not long ago. Are there any important wires running along the driver side of the car that would do this? If so which color. and btw I can hear the fuel pump come on and I have fuel pressure. The problem is the starter is just not cranking.

01-02-2009, 01:18 PM	#7
drftmark Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: tx Posts: 524 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	I guess I will jack up the car and hit the starter really good and try to start it. If that doesn't work I guess I will take it out and see what the problem is. Another thing is there is an alpine security/alarm system that is under the drivers seat. A bunch of wires are connected to that, so then would it be possible that there is some sort of ignition wire going to it and I maybe have just loosened the connection and it is preventing it from starting? btw I really appreciate the help

01-02-2009, 05:42 PM	#9
Bigsyke Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NA Age: 36 Posts: 1,342 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	take a wire, attach one end to the starter and the other end to a good ground.

01-02-2009, 06:34 PM	#12
redsx13 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Agoura Hills, Ca Age: 31 Posts: 572 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	i wonder if you may have grounded one of your power wires and fried your ecu. i have seen it done with maf wires....just a thought

01-02-2009, 10:24 PM	#13
drftmark Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: tx Posts: 524 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	I tried jumping it, no luck. I removed all of the wires completley, and still nothing. Jacked the front end of the car up, got under, looked at starter, and the freaking clip was somehow disconnected. Plugged it back in and it cranked right up. So problem solved, thanks for the help everyone.

06-01-2010, 10:51 PM	#14
canseri Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Arizona Age: 39 Posts: 1 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have been having a similar issue with my car for some time now keys in turn key all relays click and.... Nothing No load nothing ill check the solenoid clip and see what happens.