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JaredP · 02-04-2012, 12:36 AM

psm knuckle has a separate mounting bracket for a wilwood parking brake caliper. so to answer your question: yes its dual caliper able, but no it will not work with that kit (or it could..but as far as i know no ones done it?)

prego · 02-04-2012, 01:25 AM

there is no point using that kit for the psm rear knuckle, it would work but its pointless since psm already has an extra mounting point for a 2nd caliper

IIIXziuR · 02-06-2012, 10:30 AM

Hello Fellas, a quick question for y'all;
I am doing PSM solid risers on my S14 sub frame.
What is the purpose of these things and do I need to reinstall them?

GripTerror · 02-06-2012, 11:22 AM

They are weights which were a prehistoric NVH reduction method.

I removed mine from my s13, you can remove yours too. Dead weight anchor = not cool

bataangpinoy · 02-06-2012, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

Flat gives you much more grip. You have to think, basically that is the only wheel steering your car at that much angle. The weight is on that side, and the other tire is going to go up on it's side too.

Caster will make the wheel roll over onto it's edge more because the shock is more angled.

so if i lengthened the tension rods, i would reduce caster. and as the shock/knuckle is more upright, the leading wheel would in turn be more flat as well?

IIIXziuR · 02-06-2012, 02:21 PM

Thanks a grip, Grip!
Just want to make sure I could nix them without any ill side-effects.

Chris28 · 02-06-2012, 04:08 PM

Caster, roll center, ackerman, and steering angle, all in one package. Anyone care to tell my why it wouldn't work before I make something in Solidworks?

KA240SX808 · 02-06-2012, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GripTerror

They are weights which were a prehistoric NVH reduction method.

I removed mine from my s13, you can remove yours too. Dead weight anchor = not cool

+1 Them Bastards are Heavy.

I bought a Kouki Subframe (Same as S15) and looks like Nissan figured it did nothing an Removed them from the Subframe.

SicBastard · 02-06-2012, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris28

Caster, roll center, ackerman, and steering angle, all in one package. Anyone care to tell my why it wouldn't work before I make something in Solidworks?

And Bump Steer Correction! DO it!

PoorMans180SX · 02-06-2012, 07:18 PM

Aasbo's TC uses S-chassis knuckles, and his angle kit is done like that.

ShakotanGazelle · 02-06-2012, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris28

Caster, roll center, ackerman, and steering angle, all in one package. Anyone care to tell my why it wouldn't work before I make something in Solidworks?

weeehooo that looks sick.

DC Dan MAX USA · 02-06-2012, 08:53 PM

I had to do that to my genesis since it has cast knuckles

*TheRealSy90* · 02-06-2012, 08:55 PM

Aren't s chassis knuckles cast also?

DC Dan MAX USA · 02-06-2012, 09:01 PM

S chassis is forged.

articdragon192 · 02-07-2012, 12:02 AM

Meaning something similar can be done with Z32 aluminum knuckles?

Croustibat · 02-07-2012, 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris28

Caster, roll center, ackerman, and steering angle, all in one package. Anyone care to tell my why it wouldn't work before I make something in Solidworks?

i would be very insterested in that kind of mod on an S13 if it works. And so will many people ... I wonder where is the catch ? Why no one made that before, instead of chopping / rewelding knuckles ?

PoorMans180SX · 02-07-2012, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Croustibat

i would be very insterested in that kind of mod on an S13 if it works. And so will many people ... I wonder where is the catch ? Why no one made that before, instead of chopping / rewelding knuckles ?

Because it takes quite a while to prototype, not everyone can work with CAD, and 5-axis CNC time is not cheap when you don't own one.

conrad_s13.5 · 02-07-2012, 07:56 AM

theyve been doing it to chasers for years.

coulda swore i saw it in this thread somewhere

Motary · 02-07-2012, 08:00 AM

You mean this?

It is a lot less complicated to make them for chasers, because for one it can be done on a 2d mill

younghatchowner · 02-07-2012, 11:01 AM

Can someone tell me why My Megan Track coilover are at ful camber but my wheels are straight and if i put the at full positive camber i would have the amount of positive camber that i want to get with negative camber?

godrifttoday · 02-07-2012, 11:13 AM

Because they are Megan? I don't know

DC Dan MAX USA · 02-07-2012, 08:12 PM

An advantage with the genesis is that there is 3 mounting points and with the s or z32 chassis there is just 2.

conrad_s13.5 · 02-08-2012, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motary

You mean this?

exactly like that

Quote:

Originally Posted by younghatchowner

Can someone tell me why My Megan Track coilover are at ful camber but my wheels are straight and if i put the at full positive camber i would have the amount of positive camber that i want to get with negative camber?

chances are where you have the coil bolted to the knuckle is messing up all the measurements.

if you 0 the coil out, and loosen that bolt(s) u can 'massage' it into place right

nassin31spr · 02-08-2012, 08:48 AM

I have a problem. My s13 drivers side wheel sticks out almost 2 inches further than the drivers side. I've searched and posted in the small questions thread and no real answers. Can I get front lower adjustable control arms and fix this or is this a frame problem?

Croustibat · 02-08-2012, 09:03 AM

2 inches further ? unless left and right wheels and tyres are different, it suggests a massive frame damage. Are you sure you did not forget a wheel spacer in there ?

PerilousActs · 02-08-2012, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

Aasbo's TC uses S-chassis knuckles, and his angle kit is done like that.

I grabbed some detailed pics of his knuckle set up one day while the car was chilling in Dayton and the pit crew was no where to be found. I'll post some pics when I get off of work.

nassin31spr · 02-08-2012, 01:06 PM

It's probobly frame damage. I've seen it before though. No sign of any damage. But one wheel sticks out. I'll see if I can get it on a frame machine. Thanks.

driftrkp · 02-08-2012, 05:07 PM

stock fenders?

*hOngsterr* · 02-09-2012, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nassin31spr

I have a problem. My s13 drivers side wheel sticks out almost 2 inches further than the drivers side. I've searched and posted in the small questions thread and no real answers. Can I get front lower adjustable control arms and fix this or is this a frame problem?

so which side sticks out further?

drift937 · 02-09-2012, 04:39 PM

here is my kit

for what its worth

02-06-2012, 10:30 AM	#3633
IIIXziuR Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Left Hand Path Posts: 2,652 Trader Rating: (22) Feedback Score: 22 reviews	Hello Fellas, a quick question for y'all; I am doing PSM solid risers on my S14 sub frame. What is the purpose of these things and do I need to reinstall them? __________________ ... ... ... ... .

02-06-2012, 02:21 PM	#3636
IIIXziuR Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Left Hand Path Posts: 2,652 Trader Rating: (22) Feedback Score: 22 reviews	Thanks a grip, Grip! Just want to make sure I could nix them without any ill side-effects. __________________ ... ... ... ... .

02-06-2012, 07:18 PM	#3640
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 5,431 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Aasbo's TC uses S-chassis knuckles, and his angle kit is done like that. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

02-06-2012, 08:53 PM	#3642
DC Dan MAX USA Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,478 Trader Rating: (79) Feedback Score: 79 reviews	I had to do that to my genesis since it has cast knuckles __________________ How To order: You can order directly from our zilvia advertiser threads. When you add to cart, you get an instant shipping estimate, & the cart will remember all of your items as you move between forum threads and our website www.poweredbymax.net until you remove them or check out. I can also calculate estimates manually for you but the cart's estimates are way faster and more accurate. Order Inquiry: IM me your real name and paypal address. Thanks for your business!

02-06-2012, 09:01 PM	#3644
DC Dan MAX USA Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,478 Trader Rating: (79) Feedback Score: 79 reviews	S chassis is forged. __________________ How To order: You can order directly from our zilvia advertiser threads. When you add to cart, you get an instant shipping estimate, & the cart will remember all of your items as you move between forum threads and our website www.poweredbymax.net until you remove them or check out. I can also calculate estimates manually for you but the cart's estimates are way faster and more accurate. Order Inquiry: IM me your real name and paypal address. Thanks for your business!

02-04-2012, 12:36 AM	#3631
JaredP Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Canada Age: 31 Posts: 443 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	psm knuckle has a separate mounting bracket for a wilwood parking brake caliper. so to answer your question: yes its dual caliper able, but no it will not work with that kit (or it could..but as far as i know no ones done it?)

02-04-2012, 01:25 AM	#3632
prego Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bris, Aus. Posts: 40 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	there is no point using that kit for the psm rear knuckle, it would work but its pointless since psm already has an extra mounting point for a 2nd caliper

02-06-2012, 11:22 AM	#3634
GripTerror Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Canada Age: 36 Posts: 685 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	They are weights which were a prehistoric NVH reduction method. I removed mine from my s13, you can remove yours too. Dead weight anchor = not cool

02-06-2012, 04:08 PM	#3637
Chris28 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: 757/919 Age: 31 Posts: 196 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Caster, roll center, ackerman, and steering angle, all in one package. Anyone care to tell my why it wouldn't work before I make something in Solidworks?

02-07-2012, 12:02 AM	#3645
articdragon192 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: West covina/ Irvine Age: 35 Posts: 6,789 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Meaning something similar can be done with Z32 aluminum knuckles? __________________ Need help? Click here Still stumped? Try this Can't find what you're looking for? Here you go.

02-07-2012, 07:56 AM	#3648
conrad_s13.5 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: STL Age: 34 Posts: 1,533 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	theyve been doing it to chasers for years. coulda swore i saw it in this thread somewhere __________________ cONtRol FReAkS

02-07-2012, 08:00 AM	#3649
Motary Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Estonia Age: 32 Posts: 450 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	You mean this? It is a lot less complicated to make them for chasers, because for one it can be done on a 2d mill

02-07-2012, 11:01 AM	#3650
younghatchowner Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Central Florida Age: 31 Posts: 448 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Can someone tell me why My Megan Track coilover are at ful camber but my wheels are straight and if i put the at full positive camber i would have the amount of positive camber that i want to get with negative camber?

02-07-2012, 11:13 AM	#3651
godrifttoday Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: los angeles Age: 37 Posts: 3,120 Trader Rating: (82) Feedback Score: 82 reviews	Because they are Megan? I don't know __________________ NEED Bolt kits for your car?

02-07-2012, 08:12 PM	#3652
DC Dan MAX USA Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,478 Trader Rating: (79) Feedback Score: 79 reviews	An advantage with the genesis is that there is 3 mounting points and with the s or z32 chassis there is just 2. __________________ How To order: You can order directly from our zilvia advertiser threads. When you add to cart, you get an instant shipping estimate, & the cart will remember all of your items as you move between forum threads and our website www.poweredbymax.net until you remove them or check out. I can also calculate estimates manually for you but the cart's estimates are way faster and more accurate. Order Inquiry: IM me your real name and paypal address. Thanks for your business!

02-08-2012, 08:48 AM	#3654
nassin31spr Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: clay town NC Age: 41 Posts: 437 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	I have a problem. My s13 drivers side wheel sticks out almost 2 inches further than the drivers side. I've searched and posted in the small questions thread and no real answers. Can I get front lower adjustable control arms and fix this or is this a frame problem? __________________ *"Home is where the armor is"*

02-08-2012, 09:03 AM	#3655
Croustibat Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: France - Toulouse Age: 41 Posts: 1,851 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	2 inches further ? unless left and right wheels and tyres are different, it suggests a massive frame damage. Are you sure you did not forget a wheel spacer in there ?

02-08-2012, 01:06 PM	#3657
nassin31spr Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: clay town NC Age: 41 Posts: 437 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	It's probobly frame damage. I've seen it before though. No sign of any damage. But one wheel sticks out. I'll see if I can get it on a frame machine. Thanks. __________________ *"Home is where the armor is"*

02-08-2012, 05:07 PM	#3658
driftrkp Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: dayton Age: 33 Posts: 175 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	stock fenders?

02-09-2012, 04:39 PM	#3660
drift937 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: ohio Age: 36 Posts: 83 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	here is my kit for what its worth

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