codyace

that's the damn truth, no 4 cyl is.

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Its kind of funny but if i could have done it all over again I wouldnt pass 350rwhp on stock block. iI would do S3 cams ,1000cc injectors, Stock intake manifold and a gt28rs on e85 and all the supporting mods... If you want to make power sr's they are not the way to do it on the cheap. I love sr's i really do. I know them like the back of my hand. But the honest truth is there heads flows like shit. There valvetrain sucks compared to... Well everything really. And the botton end needs to be built. But hey look at the brightside guys there jdm tyte!

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juiced305diesel

Yo Bitch i found my 6-1 merge collector on cheap!!!

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mr_eh

i'm shooting for 500 with this setup - motor being picked up soon... a little concerned with the guy llifting his head at 28lbs with arps! what would you recommend...

ps this dream is my nightmare/reality, 20k into the parts purchasing so far...

Mazworx SRVG Adapter Kit
Mazworx Z32 Transmission - Cleaned/Inspected/Machined For Adapter Plate
Exedy Ceramic Triple Plate
Os Giken Rear 1.5 way Diff
APEXi Power Fuel Commander
S13 SR Harness
External Aeromotive A1000RC Engineering 1000cc Injectors
Aeromotive Fuel Pressure Regulator
Greddy Fuel Rail
Full Race Turbo KitGen 2 SR RWD Prostreet Twinscroll T4 Manifold
Gen 2 SR RWD 3.0in. Downpipe
Tial 44mm Wastegate x 2
Garrett GT35r 1.06 a/r
Optional FR S13 240SX/Silvia FMIC
Tial 50 mm BOV
SR20Red
Bored .20 OverJE 2618 T6 Forged Pistons
Manley Turbo Tuff I-Beam Rods
Tomei Wrist Pins
Nismo Billet Crank
Nismo high Tencil Bearing Cap Bolts
Timken main and thrust bearings
ARP Head Studs
3 Angle Valve Job by JGY Customs
Greddy Rocker Arm Stoppers
Brian Crower Springs/Guides/Retainers
Greddy Intake Manifold
Greddy Oil Pan
Nismo Coil packs
HKS Step 2 264/272 Cams
Nissan Sr20det Full Gasket Set
Greddy Cam Gears
Cosworth Head Gasket

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PoorMans180SX

Stock SR20VE head
Stock SR20DET block
Mazworx tubular exhaust manifold
Mazworx VE intake manifold
GT3076R 18-19psi
1000cc injectors
Z32 MAF
Q45 throttle body
ROM tune
93 Octane

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juiced305diesel

Dont build your setup around 500hp it will limit you when you want to grow in the future. Never limit your self First do you have E85? If you do build your setup around it. Get an ignition box aem if on the cheap or m$w with cbr coils. Get L19 1/2 headstuds. You dont need a nismo crank stock crank will hold 1000rwhp+. Aeromotive a1000 are gay i have one. Get a magnafuel electric fuel pump! With this pump theres no need for voltage converter and there more reliable.The Gt35r is old technology Get a pte 6262 t3 .83 this turbo spools like 35r but can make 800RWHP. Billet wheels is where its at. Why power fc? Get an aem or a haltech ps1000!

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juiced305diesel

Guys there no doubt the can make that power i made 534rwhp. On a stock bottom end. Hybridnamics, Phase2, Enjuku, scott. All these people made 500+ the thing is guys they are not Reliable!

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mr_eh

i'm not limiting to 500 but it should be achievable without pushing it TOO hard. No e85. everything is purchased already, the pfc is easy to tune and should be fine with the setup. i hope =X the 35r i purchased 2 years ago when i bought the car lol, i didnt think it would take this long or be this expensive.

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Mishkin_707

off topic but kinda, was anyone at race wars this weekend in wisconsin? there was a datsun 510 with an sr and it ran a high 7's in the quarter mile, gonna see if i can find my vid of it, and it came from puerto rico that thing was awesome

juiced305diesel

You talking about Kako the orange car? If so he just ran a New Record of 7.11 @ 191 MPH

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steve shadows

I have built a few SRs with 500 brake HP and 500 WHP

ALl of which used STOCK pistons, STOCK rods, and mostly stock block

The best turbo I have found is the GT3037S or GT3040 or GT3076R

I like the 3076 / 3037S the best. Full boost at 3900 RPMS and insane torque curve all the way to 8100.....yes 8100 rpms on hydro lifters and stock valve train...

It's all in the tuning boys and girls

...these were all on 91 octane, for 500 brake HP on stock pistons/rods/bottom end////

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juiced305diesel

If im not mistaken you rebuilt your motor? I think you used new oem pistons and rods... but it was a fresh rebuild This is not a fresh off the boat 14 yr old sr with questionable mileage and maintenance...

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ross.cottrill

why do you say that??ask whitey if he has any problems yet..hes been beatn the livin sh*t out of the sr20ve setup and no problems whatsoever!!and this was a full stock/stock setup.this is the reason why i spent the extra $ on the ve head...just sayin...you cant go breakin rockers on this setup and it breathes waay better.these are the 2 faults of the sr...done and done...

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Dude if I made 500WHP on a 54C SR20DET back in 1999-2000 with old school technology .. This VET will T-BAG your RB engines

juiced305diesel

Yeah i know what the vvl head can do. My cousins car Dabie305 has a vvl head on his fully built motor all built by mark at mazworx. At the end of the day how much is a vvl swap kit? 2195.99 How much is a vvl Motor? 1300.00Plus your stoc k s13 motor plus all your supporting mods. Guys at the end of the day it takes more money than a 2jz or ls1. On a side note we have a low miles vvl motor with auto trans for 1300.00 let me know

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240sx123$

Nice! I stand corrected. I know theres no way I personally could get that kind of mileage, but thats cool that it can be done.

ross.cottrill

if i could do it over...def 2j..

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Originally Posted by shagspeed
Dude if I made 500WHP on a 54C SR20DET back in 1999-2000 with old school technology .. This VET will T-BAG your RB engines

smelly240

id do LSX and a turbo - i say that but i continue to dump everything i got into a sr.

I gotta go call the Harley dealer and order a few shims to be next day aired... next day'd those VE 9:1 pistons from mazworx/cp - other vvl stuff from gspec (cali to philly NextDay is rough) and i still need other crap

saying the ve swap is 2200 bucks is bs... once you build the head and have 1000 in machine fees, few hundred on springs - and 500 for cams (or 900 for kelfords) its so damn much money.

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jonathan.bayspeed

straight LSx or 2jz for the win

SilviaSR20DET

i vote 2jz for 500hp. you'll get there faster and will be more reliable and cost effective then building a sr20.

Zerolift Autolab

Ive got a 1JZVVTI in stock super clean, front sump oil pan, extended shifter R154.

Also have a Sleeved Rough Bore 90mm SR20det block with 1/2 Head Studs.
Let me know if i can help with anything.

Thanks,
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I'd rather have an SR.

Why?

Because it's cool.

Everybody has LSX's and 2JZ's that make that much.

Having a 4-cylinder that can eat Lambos and Ferrari's is cool.

Dead set on something bigger? VQ30DET. 500whp is not a problem on stock internals.

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codyace

Everybody has LSX?? That's news to me...


I guess I'd rather 500 hp, of the naturally aspirated variety. Less nonsense, turn key, spin tires, no worries.

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Yes, if you include all the corvette, camaro, mustang, and whatever else has a "god's gift to engines" lsx in it.

And no worries? Good luck.

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power is power, it can be made cheaper.

a 240sx enthusiast with anything other than a nissan motor? not a fan.

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240sx123$

Why? Because Nissan makes such amazing motors that itd be an embarrasment to Nissan to run anything else?

There are a slew of other manufacturers that make great motors- better motors than what Nissan makes.

mr_eh

i'm just not a fan, it makes perfect sense to get anything but an sr for cost efficiency. i just dont like it, my personal opinion doesn't really mean anything...

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240sx123$

I mean dont get me wrong- the SR is a great swap option for the 240.. Ease of install, ability to use ac/ps/cruise, good power potential.. its a good motor, but if your goals are high hp, the only real advantage of an SR is cheaper initial price, which is totally offset by the amount you need to spend to get it there. 2jz/RB/LSx are all much more expensive to install initially, but much easier to pull power out of. I feel like a lot of people do the SR swap with a reasonable initial power goal, but when they find themselves wanting more, its easier to upgrade the current motor than go to a whole new platform. In this way, its easy to be nickled and dimed into a fully built SR that, at the end of the day, probably wasnt the smartest investment.

Nissan makes some good motors, but nothing that really says "wow, thats innovative." Wouldnt it be nice if Honda designed an aftermarket SR head for us? lol

mr_eh

i 100% agree with that. and yeah i dont think the sr is better than any option available, it's just true to the car. i set out initially with 500 goal in mind and knew it wasnt a great idea, but its just a daily driver, if i was looking to drag or drift this would have been my last choice

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codyace

My reference was into swap - and I'd take a Vette in a heartbeat over any 240, that's for darn sure.

And yes, no worries. I can provide you with personal contact information of LSx guys in the 400/500/600/700 range, with all sorts of power adders and or N/A, without any issue at all.

Hell my favorite example is my good friend dave just sold his Vette...9.30 car, with over 600 passes...CAM/Springs/Intake only, and a blower. Never had a single issue with it, and he drives it twice a week. And there are COUNTLESS examples of 6.0 and lS1 based cars makign 450+ whp with bolt ons and cam...how can you beat that type of reliability...no turbo pipes, no oil issues, no wacky tune problems, no lag...just go baby go at all times...

Granted my SR 240 is just as turn reliable and driveable, but man I'd love anothe 250-300 whp with the same reliability...just isn't gonna happen ya know?


I love all sorts of HP, from any sort of powerplant...I'm jut as impressed by a 300 hp Slant 6, as I am by a 1000 hp 2jZ....bottom line is though, if I'm gonna make HP, reliably, and cheaply...you can not beat LSX.

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for an easy 500whp get a 2JZ. no question.

Percision 6265 turbo
tial wastegate
Tial blow off valve
USDM camshafts
Fuel pressure regulator
if your feeling lucky stock USDM 550cc injectors.
intercooler and a solid tune through a R154 will make 500whp all day long without thinking about it.

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