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s14freak · 03-16-2009, 05:25 AM

I just got finished reading through all 50 pages of this thread, and I must say, I am amazed at the caliber or the work here. I have fabbed up a few things, but not very exciting like the stuff in here lol. I've made a couple strut braces, and mved my ebrake to the passenger side. Blu where is your shop? I'd love to get you to do a cage in my s14.

cc4usmc · 03-16-2009, 03:53 PM

He's in San Jose,CA. Or somewhere around there.

Andrew Bohan · 03-16-2009, 04:00 PM

15553 Los Gatos Blvd
Los Gatos, CA

inside BR Racing

2,745 mi from north charleston

atutt · 03-16-2009, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blu808

that's tight dude. Nice work.

Thanks boss.
Quite a nice compliment coming from you.
I figured it was time for some shamelss whoring

cured13 · 03-16-2009, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atutt

A car I've worked on at work. I welded up the the front re-bar because it was non-esistent.

This was at a show this past weekend.

hey dude I admire your project,especially your paint job. Tell us something about it, what's the colour code and other details. Cheers

born2boost · 03-17-2009, 06:25 AM

I made a gauge cluster and Im almost done with the car:

wiring:

Ecu/injector box mounting:

A rocker hopped off and then let the valve free and it had some fun in the combustion chamber so im throwing a stocker back in Ill post up better detailed pics of everything later

driftstyre · 03-17-2009, 05:39 PM

Haven't posted in here for a while so I thought I'd post an SR manifold I recently finished. Its a dual plenum design common in WRC/LMP turbo motors.

and I finially finished my new chassis harness. Engine harness is next but should take about 1/3 the time to complete.

rican_nick · 03-17-2009, 07:24 PM

damn.. thats all i can say.

Monooxide · 03-17-2009, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by driftstyre

Haven't posted in here for a while so I thought I'd post an SR manifold I recently finished. Its a dual plenum design common in WRC/LMP turbo motors.

and I finially finished my new chassis harness. Engine harness is next but should take about 1/3 the time to complete.

You still use the IACV, interesting.

driftstyre · 03-17-2009, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monooxide

You still use the IACV, interesting.

I don't, but the customer who this is for does

blu808 · 03-18-2009, 01:01 AM

Bill Washburn for president.

wannabe_drifter · 03-18-2009, 01:26 AM

That intake mani is awesome ! Great job !

I wish mine is gonna be as great as this.

GSXRJJordan · 03-18-2009, 02:29 AM

Sexy SEXY intake mani Bill.

I <3 welding 1/8" after welding all that .018" galvanized and stock sheetmetal last week for my tubs... laid down some sweet beads (my best/most consistent ever lol), using my Hobart 135/.030" wire/no gas (still havent bought it). These are for Camilleon's deadbolts in her 510, btw.

duffman1278 · 03-18-2009, 01:28 PM

Clean welds on the first pic but splatter is "ewww" lol I hate flux core to.

GSXRJJordan · 03-18-2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by duffman1278

Clean welds on the first pic but splatter is "ewww" lol I hate flux core to.

Yeah, it files right off, but I feel like such a bum for not spending the ~$90 or so on a bottle every time I see it... I've got a Miller regulator (and I use a Miller MIG gun), just need to man up and stop by Airgas.

Xracer · 03-18-2009, 02:12 PM

That is a crazy lookin intake manifold.

atutt · 03-18-2009, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

Yeah, it files right off, but I feel like such a bum for not spending the ~$90 or so on a bottle every time I see it... I've got a Miller regulator (and I use a Miller MIG gun), just need to man up and stop by Airgas.

I can give you a few reason why you should stick with flux core and get a bottle of CO2... Yes a bottle of CO2 on flux core.

If anyone here has ever done some heavy construction (IE. Construction cranes). They will tell you flux core is far superior to MIG... Just a thought...

If I had it my way. MIG would not exsist. It looks like crap and has shitty penetration... FC and metal core all the way! (For wire feed anyways)

JohnnyDrfiter22 · 03-18-2009, 07:43 PM

Born2boost what are those black boxes labeled like ECU, injector ETC????

Driftstyre GOOD GAWD Amazing! After seeing your wiring i think i might try and steal some Mil spec connectors from work....

duffman1278 · 03-18-2009, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atutt

I can give you a few reason why you should stick with flux core and get a bottle of CO2... Yes a bottle of CO2 on flux core.

If anyone here has ever done some heavy construction (IE. Construction cranes). They will tell you flux core is far superior to MIG... Just a thought...

If I had it my way. MIG would not exsist. It looks like crap and has shitty penetration... FC and metal core all the way! (For wire feed anyways)

I assume the CO2 will shield the splatter from the flux core? This is very interesting I might have to do this. I've got some CO2 tanks from when I used to paintball, I might have to give this a try.

atutt · 03-18-2009, 08:13 PM

Duffman:
No there will still be spatter. The CO2 is used for penetration and cleanliness of the weld.
Note that you will also need the correct flux cored wire to be used with CO2.

Next to TIG. This method of flux core and Metal Core produce the cleanest looking welds that I've come across.

GSXRJJordan · 03-18-2009, 10:01 PM

Yeah the stuff I was looking at was 30% argon 70% CO2 for the flux core wire I'm using. I used that same setup on a Miller MIG at the Tech Day here and it was awesome.

Fundamentally, what's the difference between MIG and Flux Core welding?

born2boost · 03-18-2009, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyDrfiter22

Born2boost what are those black boxes labeled like ECU, injector ETC????

Driftstyre GOOD GAWD Amazing! After seeing your wiring i think i might try and steal some Mil spec connectors from work....

they are relays we got rid of all the stock wiring

atutt · 03-19-2009, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSXRJJordan

Yeah the stuff I was looking at was 30% argon 70% CO2 for the flux core wire I'm using. I used that same setup on a Miller MIG at the Tech Day here and it was awesome.

Fundamentally, what's the difference between MIG and Flux Core welding?

I've always used straight CO2 (100%) when using this method of flux core.

The differences:

MIG, you push the wire
FC, you PULL the wire

MIG, doesn't need cleaning to restart weld
FC, must be cleaned very well before welding.

MIG has no slag
FC has layer of slag, which need s to be cleaned off.

MIG least penetration of all weld types
FC one of the highest penetration of all weld types

MIG harder to weld with
FC very easy to weld with

MIG hard to get appealing appearance
FC, very easy to acheive a asthetically appealy weld...

I could go on...

There are obviously a few PROS to MIG but the PROS of a properly set up FC just doesn't compare.

*Jonnie Fraz* · 03-19-2009, 08:43 PM

I think you are speeking of dual sheild.
here is the page from Lincoln Electric describing the wire and uses.
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atutt · 03-19-2009, 08:50 PM

^Yes, I am refering to a dual sheild set-up... Best wire feed set up in my opinion.

BrianG701 · 03-19-2009, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atutt

I've always used straight CO2 (100%) when using this method of flux core.

The differences:

MIG, you push the wire
FC, you PULL the wire

MIG, doesn't need cleaning to restart weld
FC, must be cleaned very well before welding.

MIG has no slag
FC has layer of slag, which need s to be cleaned off.

MIG least penetration of all weld types
FC one of the highest penetration of all weld types

MIG harder to weld with
FC very easy to weld with

MIG hard to get appealing appearance
FC, very easy to acheive a asthetically appealy weld...

I could go on...

There are obviously a few PROS to MIG but the PROS of a properly set up FC just doesn't compare.

Please do go on, I'd like to hear how the same machine is inferior to itself when using different filler material, I'm simply curious since I've never heard this before.

*Jonnie Fraz* · 03-20-2009, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG701

Please do go on, I'd like to hear how the same machine is inferior to itself when using different filler material, I'm simply curious since I've never heard this before.

It is not a matter of the machine being inferior to itself, it is a matter of using the right filler for the job.
I only use dual sheild on very heavy/ super high strength applications.
Atutt is right in the fact that the welds are super high penatration, and look awesome after you clean off the slag...but since they are so high heat and penatration it has a tendency to cause a lot of heat distortion, so dual sheild is not for all applacations in my opinion.

BrianG701 · 03-20-2009, 11:25 AM

Ah, now I understand

duffman1278 · 03-20-2009, 11:38 AM

So I would assume because of the higher heat with using dual shielded, that it would not be good to use on sheet metal for cars?

Nachtmensch · 03-21-2009, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by driftstyre

I don't, but the customer who this is for does

is that Simba's manifold? i saw some pics when you first started making it. looks good. any idea on HP/TQ increase?

03-17-2009, 06:25 AM	#1506
born2boost Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Charlotte/Concord, NC Posts: 99 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I made a gauge cluster and Im almost done with the car: wiring: Ecu/injector box mounting: A rocker hopped off and then let the valve free and it had some fun in the combustion chamber so im throwing a stocker back in Ill post up better detailed pics of everything later __________________ www.HaydenHorton.com

03-17-2009, 07:24 PM	#1508
rican_nick Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Augusta, GA Age: 39 Posts: 1,204 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	damn.. thats all i can say. __________________ Nick O. 97 240sx My Seller's Review Thread

03-18-2009, 01:01 AM	#1511
blu808 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Campbell, Ca Age: 38 Posts: 5,010 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Bill Washburn for president. __________________

03-18-2009, 01:26 AM	#1512
wannabe_drifter Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Québec, Canada Age: 37 Posts: 245 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That intake mani is awesome ! Great job ! I wish mine is gonna be as great as this. __________________

03-18-2009, 02:29 AM	#1513
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: << 626 >> Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Sexy SEXY intake mani Bill. I <3 welding 1/8" after welding all that .018" galvanized and stock sheetmetal last week for my tubs... laid down some sweet beads (my best/most consistent ever lol), using my Hobart 135/.030" wire/no gas (still havent bought it). These are for Camilleon's deadbolts in her 510, btw. __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

03-16-2009, 05:25 AM	#1501
s14freak Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Charleston. SC Age: 33 Posts: 119 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I just got finished reading through all 50 pages of this thread, and I must say, I am amazed at the caliber or the work here. I have fabbed up a few things, but not very exciting like the stuff in here lol. I've made a couple strut braces, and mved my ebrake to the passenger side. Blu where is your shop? I'd love to get you to do a cage in my s14.

03-16-2009, 04:00 PM	#1503
Andrew Bohan Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Location: Location Posts: 8,330 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	15553 Los Gatos Blvd Los Gatos, CA inside BR Racing 2,745 mi from north charleston

03-17-2009, 05:39 PM	#1507
driftstyre Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Boston Age: 42 Posts: 748 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Haven't posted in here for a while so I thought I'd post an SR manifold I recently finished. Its a dual plenum design common in WRC/LMP turbo motors. and I finially finished my new chassis harness. Engine harness is next but should take about 1/3 the time to complete.

03-18-2009, 01:28 PM	#1514
duffman1278 Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Covina Age: 33 Posts: 2,844 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: duffman1278 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Clean welds on the first pic but splatter is "ewww" lol I hate flux core to. __________________

03-18-2009, 02:12 PM	#1516
Xracer Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Minnesota Posts: 660 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	That is a crazy lookin intake manifold. __________________ R34 NEO POWER

03-18-2009, 07:43 PM	#1518
JohnnyDrfiter22 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New Jersey Age: 38 Posts: 670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Born2boost what are those black boxes labeled like ECU, injector ETC???? Driftstyre GOOD GAWD Amazing! After seeing your wiring i think i might try and steal some Mil spec connectors from work....

03-18-2009, 08:13 PM	#1520
atutt Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: barrie, ontario, canada Age: 35 Posts: 997 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Duffman: No there will still be spatter. The CO2 is used for penetration and cleanliness of the weld. Note that you will also need the correct flux cored wire to be used with CO2. Next to TIG. This method of flux core and Metal Core produce the cleanest looking welds that I've come across.

03-18-2009, 10:01 PM	#1521
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: << 626 >> Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Yeah the stuff I was looking at was 30% argon 70% CO2 for the flux core wire I'm using. I used that same setup on a Miller MIG at the Tech Day here and it was awesome. Fundamentally, what's the difference between MIG and Flux Core welding? __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

03-19-2009, 08:43 PM	#1524
Jonnie Fraz Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cali Age: 53 Posts: 1,371 Trader Rating: (29) Rides Gallery: Jonnie Fraz Feedback Score: 29 reviews	I think you are speeking of dual sheild. here is the page from Lincoln Electric describing the wire and uses. Browser Level Verification __________________ Stealth-Custom-Fab.com

03-19-2009, 08:50 PM	#1525
atutt Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: barrie, ontario, canada Age: 35 Posts: 997 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^Yes, I am refering to a dual sheild set-up... Best wire feed set up in my opinion.

03-20-2009, 11:25 AM	#1528
BrianG701 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Age: 34 Posts: 33 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ah, now I understand

03-20-2009, 11:38 AM	#1529
duffman1278 Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Covina Age: 33 Posts: 2,844 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: duffman1278 Feedback Score: 8 reviews	So I would assume because of the higher heat with using dual shielded, that it would not be good to use on sheet metal for cars? __________________

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