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lewisfk · 01-28-2016, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DownSouthSlider

Here is mine. They both in bolt and the fenders and bumpers are held on by dzus fasteners.
I forget the size we used. Sorry!

Can you replicate that front crash bar set up or provide the POC for the builder? THANKS!

OBEEWON · 01-28-2016, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ehhhregartless

fuggg. his radiator support is so dope.

*s13 drifta* · 01-31-2016, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by deolio

not a fan of tube fronts, but it had to be done. came out much better than i expected.

This looks good. Did you do the work or did you have someone do it?

shanks821 · 01-31-2016, 10:48 PM

I see a lot of cars only running to the front of the top hat, any pros for running tubing all the way to the firewall?

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deolio · 01-31-2016, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by s13 drifta

This looks good. Did you do the work or did you have someone do it?

thanks! nah i had a friend do it for me and it was actually the first tube front he did, which is why i was surprised. just gave him an idea of what i wanted and set him free

ehhhregartless · 06-04-2016, 09:21 PM

ehhhregartless · 06-04-2016, 09:27 PM

ehhhregartless · 08-07-2016, 09:48 AM

scottie · 08-08-2016, 10:11 AM

My tube front in progress...... And yes, all threaded inserts are steel weld fittings. Anti-Zip Tie

ehhhregartless · 08-23-2016, 08:31 AM

ehhhregartless · 09-18-2016, 08:55 AM

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NJs13_1993 · 10-11-2016, 07:52 AM

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Black R · 06-05-2017, 09:18 AM

I went in for a half tube front:

Now I think I want full tube front.

What's the consensus on leaving the fender mounting points - whatever they're called up top - and reinforcing them vs cutting them off and running tubes and tabs there?

And also, do you guys leave the lower core support piece or get rid of that too?

hanzbrady · 06-05-2017, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Black R

I went in for a half tube front:

Now I think I want full tube front.

What's the consensus on leaving the fender mounting points - whatever they're called up top - and reinforcing them vs cutting them off and running tubes and tabs there?

And also, do you guys leave the lower core support piece or get rid of that too?

If you cut the material behind the strut towers and modify the strut towers themselves the car will no longer be FD legal, and also wont pass most Pro-Am tech inspections if that matters to you.

Black R · 06-06-2017, 06:39 PM

Thanks.
Very good things to keep in mind.

If I ever want to go in that direction, I should probably adhere to those rules.

I was referring mainly to the section of the unibody in front of the strut towers that extends toward the leading edge of the hood.

It's just a street car that will occasionally see time only autox runs, hpde track days, or maybe a local drift event for fun - but nothing too serious.

*DJPimpFlex* · 06-08-2017, 03:26 PM

Lots of different setups. Here is mine, had it for a few years now.

A few notes. The modular aspect where each piece is individual has been nice. If I crash I can replace just that one piece rather than having it all bent. We jigged the bash bars so they are easy to replace and are a good test to be sure the frame rails didn't move in a crash.

One thing I wish I did differently was the inner section. It works perfectly, but the intake is a pain in the ass. Haven't really gotten a clean solution for it yet.

shaggy sr · 06-13-2017, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NJs13_1993

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more photos please

Y0SH · 06-19-2017, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by shanks821

I see a lot of cars only running to the front of the top hat, any pros for running tubing all the way to the firewall?

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Last I knew, FD rules state that you can't alter the shock towers of the car. So they tube the front from the towers forward.

*DJPimpFlex* · 06-19-2017, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Y0SH

Last I knew, FD rules state that you can't alter the shock towers of the car. So they tube the front from the towers forward.

Accurate ^^ Can't modify between the strut towers and firewall must remain in tact.

JM216S14 · 07-20-2017, 03:26 AM

What wall thickness 1" (or what appears to be 1") are you guys running when you make radiator supports?

tuzzio · 10-09-2017, 02:42 PM

Bump this thread. Looking for ideas for a removable radiator support as my OEM one is ugly as fuck. Also, What OD are you guys using? I was recommended 1"

hanzbrady · 10-09-2017, 02:49 PM

This is mine, it's just some 3/8" DOM and also has two supports at the bottoms that tie into the the power brace. I'm also running hood pins, if I really wanted to I could have simply made a tab to hold the factory latch.

But this way the radiator, intercooler, and core support come out with 4 bolts.

Young Sileighty Kev · 06-04-2019, 01:10 AM

Has anyone ever heard of hot metal fab? They produce tube front end kits ready to be welded up.

S14rebuild · 06-04-2019, 01:30 PM

Yes...there kit is okay...all the tubing has extra lenght so it cut to size. Not tobad but for $400(removabale rad mount bar) its on the budget friendly. I bought it cause i have no bend avaiable to me.

kanyedian · 06-04-2019, 01:41 PM

No, but I def dig a tube front. There is a coupe earlier in the thread with ITBs that is so sick nasty

Counteract · 06-06-2019, 10:42 AM

Customer of ours lost a boost pipe mid-slide at a show at the weekend and ended up putting his R34 Skyline into a wall. He already had a tube front but needed something a bit more substantial:

All built out of 1 3/4" PTG, however now it's a little too strong! We have had to modify it with some crumple zones so that if there was another hit, it would take the damage instead of the chassis.

z31andrew · 06-06-2019, 02:29 PM

Here is my tube front:

This was my first tube front ever, still learning how to weld. It's not pretty but does the job!

Sorry about pic size

e30allday · 12-14-2019, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by EnjoiNISMO

The connection between the tube and tub is 16 gauge sheet with dimple dyes.

The front radiator support is 3/4 tube with 14 gauge wall.

Other then the cage material, I don't really know how much we used for everything else. We sorta just went by what we had.

thanks for the info!

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06-05-2017, 09:18 AM	#135
Black R Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2009 Location: ATL Posts: 642 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I went in for a half tube front: Now I think I want full tube front. What's the consensus on leaving the fender mounting points - whatever they're called up top - and reinforcing them vs cutting them off and running tubes and tabs there? And also, do you guys leave the lower core support piece or get rid of that too? __________________ S13 XE coupe: Aristo GTE, R154, GT37, Defsport Wilwood kit, KTS coilovers

06-06-2017, 06:39 PM	#137
Black R Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2009 Location: ATL Posts: 642 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks. Very good things to keep in mind. If I ever want to go in that direction, I should probably adhere to those rules. I was referring mainly to the section of the unibody in front of the strut towers that extends toward the leading edge of the hood. It's just a street car that will occasionally see time only autox runs, hpde track days, or maybe a local drift event for fun - but nothing too serious. __________________ S13 XE coupe: Aristo GTE, R154, GT37, Defsport Wilwood kit, KTS coilovers Last edited by Black R; 06-06-2017 at 11:20 PM..

06-08-2017, 03:26 PM	#138
DJPimpFlex Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Age: 35 Posts: 6,151 Trader Rating: (115) Rides Gallery: DJPimpFlex Feedback Score: 115 reviews	Lots of different setups. Here is mine, had it for a few years now. A few notes. The modular aspect where each piece is individual has been nice. If I crash I can replace just that one piece rather than having it all bent. We jigged the bash bars so they are easy to replace and are a good test to be sure the frame rails didn't move in a crash. One thing I wish I did differently was the inner section. It works perfectly, but the intake is a pain in the ass. Haven't really gotten a clean solution for it yet. __________________

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JM216S14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Over the gate Posts: 419 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	What wall thickness 1" (or what appears to be 1") are you guys running when you make radiator supports?

10-09-2017, 02:42 PM	#143
tuzzio Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Western Mass. Posts: 2,254 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Bump this thread. Looking for ideas for a removable radiator support as my OEM one is ugly as fuck. Also, What OD are you guys using? I was recommended 1"

10-09-2017, 02:49 PM	#144
hanzbrady Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Floriduh Posts: 1,168 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	This is mine, it's just some 3/8" DOM and also has two supports at the bottoms that tie into the the power brace. I'm also running hood pins, if I really wanted to I could have simply made a tab to hold the factory latch. But this way the radiator, intercooler, and core support come out with 4 bolts. __________________ [email protected]

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Young Sileighty Kev Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Inland empire, Hemet Age: 26 Posts: 984 Trader Rating: (22) Feedback Score: 22 reviews	Has anyone ever heard of hot metal fab? They produce tube front end kits ready to be welded up.

06-04-2019, 01:30 PM	#146
S14rebuild BANNED Join Date: May 2019 Location: Florida-FAIL Posts: 2,497 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Yes...there kit is okay...all the tubing has extra lenght so it cut to size. Not tobad but for $400(removabale rad mount bar) its on the budget friendly. I bought it cause i have no bend avaiable to me.

06-04-2019, 01:41 PM	#147
kanyedian Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Clearwater Age: 31 Posts: 274 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	No, but I def dig a tube front. There is a coupe earlier in the thread with ITBs that is so sick nasty

06-06-2019, 10:42 AM	#148
Counteract Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: UK Posts: 67 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Customer of ours lost a boost pipe mid-slide at a show at the weekend and ended up putting his R34 Skyline into a wall. He already had a tube front but needed something a bit more substantial: All built out of 1 3/4" PTG, however now it's a little too strong! We have had to modify it with some crumple zones so that if there was another hit, it would take the damage instead of the chassis.

06-06-2019, 02:29 PM	#149
z31andrew Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Orange, CA Age: 27 Posts: 177 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Here is my tube front: This was my first tube front ever, still learning how to weld. It's not pretty but does the job! Sorry about pic size

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