Dopefish

-The exhaust will be fixed. I paid $40, for an exhaust that normally costs $450 all because of a slightly bent tip... it's going to cost me 20 minutes of time with a simple tool I have to repair it.
-Opinion, don't like my plate, it is a good thing it isn't on your car.
-Your opinion of the headlamps styling holds no bearing to the quality of the product, they are OEM Nissan parts, not eBay shit.
-HID kits are fine if they are of quality and aimed properly, all of which these will be. You assume that the projectors cannot be aimed, which they can be.

You may as well call 90% of Zilvia 'ghetto' as well considering the amount of Silvia-swapped cars. I could easily make the argument of SR20 swaps are FTL as they don't meet US emissions. I don't mind an opinion, but you are calling it 'ghetto' as opposed to 'not your style', which bridges the gap beyond opinion. Only one of your remarks is founded and is easily rectified, that being the exhaust.

I don't mind someone disliking my car because it isn't their style, hell I get shit all the time for the Mustang wheels, but they aren't driving it, I am. I'm sure your 240 is nice in your own way too, whether it is my style or not... we are all enthusiasts of the same cars.

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Dopefish

Came from Sam (EatSleepDriftFuk), he has gone S14 Kouki and I bought his S15 front. If this hadn't come along I'd of been in hot pursuit of the Kouki front with a Japanese OEM front bumper.

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ixfxi

-Opinion, don't like my plate, it is a good thing it isn't on your car.

bukakke (from wiki): a group sex practice that features a man or woman being ejaculated on by multiple men.
bukakke (from urbandictionary): Variety of fetish that involves repeated ejaculation on a female by many (8 will do) men.

Some things are funny, others are just completely tasteless. While I consider myself to have a high tolerance for jokes and what not, having a plate that says bukkake is just wrong.

I'm sure your 240 is nice in your own way too, whether it is my style or not... we are all enthusiasts of the same cars.

but we're not all fans of bukkake, thats for sure!


-Your opinion of the headlamps styling holds no bearing to the quality of the product, they are OEM Nissan parts, not eBay shit.

My opinion, thats all. They dont belong on the S14, they belong on the S15. Though they do look a lot better on the S13 96-98...


-HID kits are fine if they are of quality and aimed properly, all of which these will be. You assume that the projectors cannot be aimed, which they can be.

HID kits will never be of quality, and the optic design of a RHD projector will never be that of a LHD projector. Its not an assumption, its a FACT; horizontal and verticle projector adjustments cannot make up for RHD optics. Furthermore, an H1 bulb will never be a D2S bulb, and vise-versa.


You may as well call 90% of Zilvia 'ghetto' as well considering the amount of Silvia-swapped cars.

Thats right, but with the increase in 240 owners its more like 97% nowadays.


I could easily make the argument of SR20 swaps are FTL as they don't meet US emissions.

Not at all. My SR-equipped car passed smog without a hicup, just paid to bypass the visual. With a good quality CAT, most well-maintained SR motors should pass with no problems.


I don't mind an opinion, but you are calling it 'ghetto' as opposed to 'not your style', which bridges the gap beyond opinion. Only one of your remarks is founded and is easily rectified, that being the exhaust.

Dont take this shit too much to heart, its just online criticism. Its probably because I'm rubbed the wrong way from some of the things you did to your car. With better research, you could've made some better decisions. Doesnt matter, you're only 22 once.... it doesnt have to be perfect, and it wont be perfect.

Maybe a few years from now, you'll be agreeing and reconsidering some of your mods.. especially the bukkake plate. ;-)

Dopefish

I think a 'BUKAKKE' plate would be hilarious, funny enough it's a Photoshop. However, the guy with an ejaculating character penis as his 'location' would be the best official to ask when concerned with the tasteless, I'm sure.

Opinion and opinion.

The H1 and D2S is merely the designation to the chassis design, the core of the bulb is what determines its output waves, variance and initial direction of output. The reflector housing usually controls the beam and requires a different design to make use of an HID bulb compared to a standardized halogen bulb. Projectors however work on a unified design due to the parabolic lens so halogens and HID's will output the same pattern, only at different wavelengths due to the obvious difference in Kelvin.

As far as aiming the projector, the difference is merely a degree separation that can be accounted for with manual adjustment, as I mentioned previously. The projector lenses are not redesigned to compensate for this such as how a reflector housing would need to be.

It helps to have an optical engineer working two offices down from me at my work.

Opinion.

I'm glad you are able to pass emissions with your SR20, for that reason I'd argue that CARB should legalize the swaps with strict control of emissions systems -- sadly they won't and would still fail you for visual inspections, what is the line between ghetto and illegal? Not that I'm judging, far from it as I support engine swaps, I just am curious as to your opinion on that.

I don't find my age has much to do with it, just personal taste, I'm sorry you don't agree with mine. I've owned a FD3S since 04' and outside of replacing the OEM badges due to aging, it received no visual modifications, it was suitable the way it was. Prior to that I've owned a Thunderbird and a S12 200sx inbetween among a few others. Honestly, my 240 was quite suitable as well, as a 'Zenki' but I put myself into an odd circumstance and a good deal came my way and now my car offends your taste. Of what age are you to speak so lowly of my own?

The plate in the pic is a chop, but I do have that on order, I suppose I enjoy being tasteless at times.

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blu808

O shit. lmao. indian food lol. and haha to all the ramen.

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ixfxi

However, the guy with an ejaculating character penis as his 'location' would be the best official to ask when concerned with the tasteless, I'm sure.

Ejaculating or peeing? Looks like you already decided. Still, good observation. But the point I was trying to make is that there is a difference between ascii on a forum and real life. You're going to get a lot of attention with a plate like that, be prepared.


Projectors however work on a unified design due to the parabolic lens so halogens and HID's will output the same pattern, only at different wavelengths due to the obvious difference in Kelvin.

>buzzer< WRONG. Projectors do not have a unified design, and there are differences as to how a halogen filament creates light vs arc tube. It's been beaten to death over and over again, read-on:
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...nversions.html


It helps to have an optical engineer working two offices down from me at my work.

Yeah? Ask him why HID retrofit kits have been banned for sale in the US, and why vendors that sell such kits are subject to such heavy fines from the NHTSA? Ask him why reputable manufacturers like Hella, Osram, Sylvania dont offer retrofit kits for sale here in the States? Why is it that only Chinese manufacturers are making and selling these products? Then, ask him why no vendor is willing to stand behind their product. Probably because they arent in business long enough...


I'm glad you are able to pass emissions with your SR20, for that reason I'd argue that CARB should legalize the swaps with strict control of emissions systems -- sadly they won't and would still fail you for visual inspections, what is the line between ghetto and illegal? Not that I'm judging, far from it as I support engine swaps, I just am curious as to your opinion on that.

Because there's no easy way to grade a foreign motor that from the get-go, was not initially built and/or intended for the US-market. Cars for sale in the States have specific requirements, which I am sure you know. Doesnt matter if we're talking about lights, safety features (reinforcements and such), airbags, etc... the US has its own standards that not every country adopts. Now you want to change the rules? Its not going to happen.

Even when swapping to newer motors within the same manufacturer, which is permitted, you have to do the complete swap with emissions system in order for it to be compliant. Its still a lot of work, to have a US-spec motor that is newer and legal.

The Force is with you, young Skywalker. But you are not a Jedi yet.

FaLKoN240

O man, a guy arguing with Mike about lights.

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NeedCAforS13

haha, I was thinking the same thing...

car's looking good kris I'm not a big fan of s15 fronts, but its sure come a lonnnng way since when I first saw it!

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Dopefish

Haha, back in the day of tug boating parts for my S12! lol How's the M3 treating you?

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NeedCAforS13

I love it. I got some BBS wheels for it this weekend, and it looks amazing. Haha.

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eds13

Sean, you suck. lol

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RUTH'LESSDET

what type of led lights did you use and how much???

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Dopefish

I'm retracting my argument concerning the HID bulb into a halogen housing. The limitation seems to be more on the axial point, you can maintain horizontal but not vertical at the same time, or vise-versa. I'm going to try and source another S15 projector assembly so that we can measure the pattern against an Audi A4 projector I have to see what differences we may see.

I will still contend that the projector can be adjusted for LHD from RHD with ease.

If I manage to get a hold of a housing I'll let you know my results as I'm sure they'll peak your interest.

I'm in school for electrical engineering, not optical but it's an interesting learning experience...

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ixfxi

Well, I'm not in school. I'm in business, and have been for over 10 years now. Ever seen these headlamps?
http://clearcorners.com/products/nissan/240sx3/h_lamp1/

I participate on this forum for fun and enjoy talking trash with the rest of everyone. However, when I see things that are wrong, I dont hesitate to state my facts.

You seem like a cool cat and I wish you the best with your buildup. Doesnt hurt to have a more open mind, thats all. Like I said, the plate alone will get you enough attention.. both good and bad. In the long run, most people eventually opt to go with a more covert setup to avoid dealing with unecessary bullshit, again.. from both people and law enforcement.

If you want HID, either swap in RHD HID-spec optics or buy the expensive HID-spec S15 headlamps and have them modified. Either way, there is no simple solution at this point in time.. although I've been working on a few (hint hint).

Cheers,
Mike / ClearCorners.Com (Bukkake in yo'face, biatch)

Dopefish

Oh wow, I didn't realize that was your site. Now I am impressed. lol I'm starting a site soon too -- just been a PITA working 55hrs a week, attending college, working on my car and doing wiring for my friends shop while still doing my own thing in between.

I do wiring conversions for engine swaps (SR, RB, etc ...maybe soon CA), but also do interior LED upgrades, like seen in the first pics. I need to update my images of the A/C panels as most of the LED's were just modified into the existing board but now I have a daughterboard done that goes inside the assembly that is much more rigid and offers more balanced lighting with SM-LED's.

I haven't ordered the plate yet, I figured I'd offload my necessity to one vanity plate before investing into another (TRINGLS on the FD). I'm rather set on it for the humor-sake but LEO's are a part I hadn't really considered up until now...

So there were OEM D2S housings for the S15? I've never seen these but now my interest is peaked. Considering the issues you've outlined and what my buddy at work mentioned after looking at the S15 projector, I am going to try some Audi projectors in the near future but for now the H1 conversion will have to do.

I do enjoy debate, especially when it offers a valid point that I may have missed before, although your 'ghetto' comments did raise the hairs on my neck a bit. lol

BTW, major update coming tonight. All new headlamp and bumper brackets that are very secure and allow for easy access to the lights still. Today will be spent mostly on prep work for paint.



The bumper was mounted but was taken back off to adjust for lower mounts. I'm contemplating modifying the existing underbody pan for the S15 front or just making a new one out of aluminum... the later is looking like the better choice.

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silnismo

may i ask why you didn't use the oem headlight bracket already on the s15 headlights? just curious.

Dopefish

The inner brackets didn't come with my lights. I was looking at a set online and may swap over to them later but for now I'm content with the ones that were made. I've been meaning to stop by Enjuku for various reasons lately (I work two blocks from them) and they also have the OEM brackets from what I've been told, but I've just haven't really had time with everything else going on.

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Anto

The OEM S15 HID projector is RHD, Frosted lens with a solid shield. You can't flip it from RHD to LHD.

On a plus note, the halogen S15 projector has a clear lens.

Dopefish

It's been a good day, but I'm tired as hell so on with the pics!









Still have to reinforce the tips of the fenders and smooth them out, then the car will get smoothed out for paint.

...and for some reason this seemed appropriote to some of the discussion here, and happened to be first thing I thought of when I saw the car tonight.

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RUTH'LESSDET

Mike ive been on your site a few time nice stuff but DAMN!!! your prices are outrageous...im not trying to say your work isn't top notch but damn everybody aint rich (I want leds man)

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NeedCAforS13

you get what you pay for. you want top quality shit, you gotta pay someone to do it well.

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smelly240

i absolutely love his leds in the kouki 180 tails - i wish i could afford him to mod mine up -

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Dopefish

UPDATE!

Bodywork: Done
Prep: Done
Paint: Done
Drooling: Done

All that is left is some curing time, a cut and buff and to put the lights and seals back in place.

Taped up and primered:




Three coats of base:




First coat of clear (Three total once finished)




For those that are curious, the paint is: AY0, Nissan Ruby Red Pearl.

Here are some of the various bits I got to finish it up:

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Justin Bernstein

pics with no masking? Please?

OurOnePassion

That paint in fresh form is purdy. Ver' nice.

wannabe_drifter

^^^ Yea !!! gotta see it

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NeedCAforS13

what color is the center of the hood?

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axiomatik

the prices are what they are because each piece is custom, hand-built. these aren't being cranked out of a factory in china.

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burnsauto

compliments on the color choice

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silviavert

nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!