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12-24-2012, 12:27 PM | #1 |
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The WHP Database Thread SR/KA/RB/CA
It's time for zilvia to have a SR/KA/RB/CA power output database. Here's the deal, post up your mods and whp/wtq numbers WITH DYNO SHEETS (No dyno sheet no post)and I will do my best to accumulate all of the stats and put it on an excel sheet.
There will be a lot of info here and I'll need help. PM me if you're interested in helping maintain this sheet, will only consider long term zilvia members. This is what I need (the more info the better): Engine (S13 SR, S14 SR, R32 RB20, S13 KA24DE, S14 KA24DET, etc) WHP and WTQ Numbers Dyno Sheet Turbo (if applicable) PSI Major Mods (stroker kit, intake manifold, SR20VET head on s13 block or s14/15 block, etc) ECU Cams Gas/Fuel Type Used (E85, 93, 91, etc) Example 1: Engine: S13 SR20DET WHP: 350 WHP 300 WTQ Dyno Sheet: www.dynosheetlink.com Rods + Pistons: Oem Injectors: 550CC Compression: Stock Turbo: HKS GT28RS w/ Tomei Exhaust Manifold Manifold: Greddy Intake Manifold Boost: 15 Psi Cams: HKS Step 2 264/264 ECU: HKS F Con V Pro Gas: 91 Example 2: Engine: S14 KA24DE-T WHP: 275 WHP 290 WTQ Dyno Sheet: www.dynosheetlink.com Rods + Pistons: Oem Injectors: 550CC Compression: 9:1 Turbo: S14 T28 w/ Modded SR Stock Manifold Intake Manifold: Stock Intake Manifold Boost: 13 Psi Cams: Brian Crower Cams 264/264 ECU: Nistune Gas: 91 Here's the spreadsheet link (Updated 9pm 12/30/12) Last edited by EDacIouSX; 12-30-2012 at 10:31 PM.. |
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12-26-2012, 12:31 PM | #2 |
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These are not my engines, just ones I have tuned and happen to have scanned dyno sheets of. Some of the info on the car I will not remember totally correctly.
Engine: vg33et WHP: Rods + Pistons: Stock Turbo: Holset, I cannot remember if it were an h1c or he351 Manifold: Arcadia or something of that nature Boost: 20ish psi Cams: 272 ECU: z31 with nistune Gas: 93 Engine: s13 sr WHP: Rods + Pistons: ? Turbo: 2871r Manifold: stock Boost: 20 Cams: stock ECU: s13 sr nistune Gas:93 This next one is the same car and turbo but with some mods including a better intake and intercooler and cams. I have made more power that both of these engines with a 2871 on a sr on pump gas. There was something with the engine or turbo that was holding it back. Engine: s13 sr WHP: Rods + Pistons: ? Turbo: 2871r Manifold: greddy Boost: 20ish Cams: 264 I believe ECU: s13 nistune Gas: 93 Engine: s13 sr WHP: Rods + Pistons: I cannot remember, but I do believe it was a fresh forged bottom end with stock compression Turbo: stock Manifold: stock Boost: 12psi Cams: stock ECU: stock+ nistune Gas: 93 Engine: NA Ka24de WHP: low numbers are stock tune, higher numbers are after my tuning Rods + Pistons: Cannot remember rods, pistons were actually only 9:1 Turbo: NOPE Manifold: stock intake, had exhaust hedder Boost: Cold air intake Cams: stock I believe ECU: stock + nistune Gas: 89 Engine: s13 ka24de-r (supercharged) WHP: Rods + Pistons: Cannot remember, may have been stock actually Supercharger: I think was an eaton m62 Manifold: Modified stock for supercharger Boost: 10-15 depending on rpm Cams: I believe 248/248 ECU: stock + nistune Gas: E85 Engine: rb25det (all stock so I wasnt allowed to rev) WHP: Rods + Pistons: stock Turbo: gt35 Manifold: some australian manifold Boost: 24psi Cams: stock ECU: z32+ nistune Gas: 93 Engine: rb25 WHP: Rods + Pistons: ? Turbo: godspeed 60-1 with small turbine housing Manifold: ? Boost: Cannot remember, sub 20 Cams: stock ECU: nistune Gas: 93 Engine: s14kadet WHP: The low graph is the first pull, which is someone elses tune before I retuned the car. Rods + Pistons: Forged bottom end, cannot remember compression or brand Turbo: t25 Manifold: stock Boost: 10-12 Cams: stock ECU: nistune Gas: 93 This next graph is nearly identical in setup except the engine is stock, never rebuilt. I could not get it to hold power like the other one. Ka's already do not like t25's but if one really dont like it, you wont be happy with your powerband. Engine: s13ka24det WHP: Rods + Pistons: stock Turbo: t25 Manifold: stock Boost: 10-12 Cams: stock ECU: stock + nistune Gas: 93 |
12-26-2012, 12:40 PM | #3 |
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Oh, and I do my tuning at a diesel performance shop, so sometimes we dont remember to switch the tq and hp back on the same scale. So when looking for specific tq or hp numbers at certain rpms make sure you run to the correct side of the graph for the scale. I try to make the hp and tq scale the same when I remember to.
Also keep in mind that these are all on dyno dynamics dynos. Multiply by 1.16 for a number to compare to dynojet numbers since more people are familiar with them if your into comparing. |
12-27-2012, 11:32 AM | #4 |
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Engine: S13 SR20DET WHP: 595Whp 424ft lbs Rods + Pistons: Wiseco .20 over, Eagle rods ( stock Sleeves ) Turbo: Precision 6266 t3 .82 ar Manifold: Freddy Intake Manifold (unported) Stock TB Boost: 33 [email protected] Cams: BC 272 ECU: AEM V2 EMS Gas: E85 Notes: Head was removed from swap and installed springs,RAS and cams thats it. same 30 year old oem valves,valve seals etc
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12-27-2012, 10:28 PM | #5 |
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My bad 13&14psi for the dynopack run
Engine: S13 SR20DET WHP: 289 WHP 270 WTQ 4th Gear pulls Rods + Pistons: Oem Turbo: GT28R w/ T-pros Exhaust Manifold Manifold: S13sr Stock Intake Manifold Boost: 13 Psi/14 Psi Blitz Dual-SBC Spec S Cams: Greddy Easycam 256/264 Greddy RAS ECU: Chipped ECU / 11.5afr Gas: 93oct Notes: Slipping Exedy stage 2 clutch DynoPack Dyno Engine: S13 SR20DET WHP: 405 WHP 357 WTQ 4th gear pull Rods + Pistons: Oem Turbo: GT2871r.64 56trim w/ FullRace Bottom Mnt/v44 Intake S13sr Stock Intake Manifold Boost: 19.5 Psi Blitz Dual-SBC Spec S Cams: Greddy Easycam 256/264 Greddy RAS ECU: Nistune / 11.3afr Gas: 93oct Notes: RPS Max Street PP/ ACT 6puck Sprung Disc DynoJet Dyno
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12-27-2012, 11:10 PM | #6 |
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Should we add what dyno these were achieved on?
Post 4 was dyno jet post 5 top graph looks to be dynapac and bottom graph possibly looks to be dynojet or mustang? |
12-28-2012, 11:20 AM | #8 |
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S13 Sr redtop,
Stock block, headgasket, and head. 850cc injectors Emance Rom Tune Freddy ITM FMIC z32 maf adj fpr 3in o2 housing t28 turbo and e85 @ 15psi of boost 298 whp and about 250 ft/lb torque
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12-29-2012, 07:36 PM | #9 |
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S14 SR20
S14 JDM [email protected] S15 OEM injectors 3 inch elbow back, no cat Cone intake FMIC Shell 91 oct Chipped ECU/Dyno tuned 246whp/220 ft-tq |
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03-26-2013, 06:48 AM | #14 |
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Engine: S14 S1 Rb25DET
WHP: 547 WHP 425 WTQ (ran out of fuel pump at 547 and backed it down to 501 just to keep it safe) Rods + Pistons: Wisco Pistons & Eagle Rods Injectors: Sard 800cc Compression: 8-1 Turbo: Garrett GT3582R w/ 82ar Turbine housing and twin scroll manifold Manifold: Greddy Intake Manifold Boost: 23ish Psi Cams: OEM ECU: Power FC w/ FC-Datalogit Gas: 93 |
03-27-2013, 06:17 AM | #16 |
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big turbine housing doesn't help...the lower 500whp run though we played with timing a little and if you look it's spooling alot faster (it also didn't help that the avcr was still learning boost)
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S13 SR20det
Rods + Pistons: CP 9:1 pistons, Eagle rods Turbo: GT2876 .64 a/r Injectors: Sard 850cc's Manifold: stock+tial mv-s Boost: 16psi Cams: Tomie 256 poncams ECU: AEM EMS Gas: 92 (Clutch slip) Exedy stg2 Last edited by di-devol; 04-28-2013 at 07:30 AM.. |
04-02-2013, 08:59 AM | #22 |
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Engine: Chuki S13 sr20det black top WHP: 316 and 280.64tq Rods + Pistons: stock Injectors: 850CC Compression: 8.5:1 Turbo: APEXi AX-53B70R P20 Black Label Intake Manifold: stock Boost: 17psi (1.15bar) Cams: stock ECU: Power FC Gas: 93
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Oh yeah, you shouldn't have to explain why the tq & hp don't cross at 5252.Cause anyone whom can read a dyno graph knows that, if the scales are not equal on both sides they won't cross at 5252.
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04-02-2013, 02:23 PM | #24 |
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^^Yes, stock cams. That turbine was MUCH more fun at 1.3-1.4, but I never got it dynoed after upping the boost.
I am not an expert at reading a dyno (lol obviously). As long as the AFR's are good and the curve is smooth, I am happy
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Sorry for the pic... took with my cell phone...
Engine: S13 SR20DET + Polished HeadPorts WHP: 505 WHP Dyno Sheet: Rods + Pistons: Eagle Rod, CP Pistons 86.5mm Injectors: SARD 850cc Compression: 8.5:1 Turbo: Garrett GT35R .63 AR + Full Race Gen 1 (Single WG) Manifold: Greddy Intake Manifold + Blitz Intercooler Boost: 25 Psi Cams: BC 272/272 + Springs & Retainers ECU: AEM EMS v.2 (6601) Gas: 91 + AEM Water/Meth Injection
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Also if the units aren't hp and lb-ft it won't be at 5252. The kgm is a wuss sounding torque unit. "An impressive 38.5 kgm you have there." |
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04-03-2013, 08:12 AM | #28 |
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It was not a question it was a statement.
Classify "whom" as objective. It is used as the direct object of a verb or the object of a preposition. For example, "She gave the book to whom it belongs." Note that "whom" is the direct object of "gave" and is the object of the preposition "to" in the example sentence. And the torque is more like 278.3ft/lbs, but yes impressive.
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Thank you! I love that turbine; it's currently my spare~
1 kg-m = 7.23301385 ft/lbs. Therefore 38.8kg-m = 280.64 ft/lbs... Is my math off? Not trying to split hairs.
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No mines was, but it was in reference to this quote
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38.8 should be 280.52 just a rough estimate lol!
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